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Agreed he has been shit. No free pass from me. I'm hoping that he has a fantastic 2nd half or that's wasted money. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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I’m a Mahomo!
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Moore's streak of luck has run out.
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#2734 |
Stay positive, don't give up
Join Date: Dec 2001
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Gordon has given nothing offensively hope he gets going ..Dyson sucks too. I'd rather see Eibner in the OF than Dyson since he can produce some offense
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#2735 |
Stroking to the SB Champs!
Join Date: Aug 2000
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I don't think it was luck. Dayton is a good GM. I do believe, however, that he absolutely out-smarted himself into thinking he could manage the season with Medlen and Young both being in the starting rotation. I also think that he way over-valued Gordon's presence on this team. That 4-year deal was friendly to KC, but he's a luxury we can't afford. His great Defensive play can't make up for a shitty starting rotation combined with his awful offensive production.
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Join Date: Nov 2001
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Signing Gordon sold tickets, so it helped from a business sense. There was already a lot of hand wringing about Glass being cheap after two World Series appearances because it looked like the team's fan favorite would walk. It seemed like the Royals people were telling guys like McCullough, Mellinger that they weren't going to sign him. Once they did, it felt like we had a good offseason.
I think he's going to have a tough year... just because of the wrist injury. Seems like guys never recover from those quickly, especially when he wasn't hitting already. But there does come a time where you have to make tough decisions. I think they're going to let Cain walk for that reason, even though it'll be really unpopular. I don't think Gordon is sunk cost though. The reason it made some sense to re-sign him was because he keeps himself in amazing shape, and he works harder than anyone on the team. He doesn't have to be washed up at only 32. |
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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He was brought back to be a stopgap bullpen asset. They didn't all of a sudden have some renewed faith in him being able to shoulder a spot in the rotation and hold up. Circumstances forced their hand to make do, and he has gotten worked over in a role he would never be an asset to the team as.
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Join Date: Aug 2000
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I do agree that they will most likely let Cain walk in '17, and that's probably the right thing to do. Maybe, by the grace of God, Bubba gets it figured out in Omaha, and he's ready to man that spot in '18. Highly doubtful, but stranger things have happened. He'll be 25 at the start of the '18 season, so maybe his maturity will catch up with his athleticism.
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#2740 |
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I think the biggest fear about re-signing Gordon was that his DEFENSE would decline rapidly, and with it a lot of his value. There was talk about moving him to 1B after Hosmer left.
I don't know if anyone expected his bat to go in the crapper so soon. I think most figured he could still OPS around .750 for 2-3 years. And he still might. But he's been utterly atrocious at the plate this year, particularly the extreme spike in strikeouts, which is both alarming and mystifying. He was never that bad when he was ... bad. The wrist may hamper his ability to climb out of this, but he was this bad before the injury too. Hopefully he'll pull a Morales and do a 180 -- soon. |
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I think it's fair to say substituting Kennedy with Cueto in the rotation would be an upgrade and Zobrist at the top of the lineup instead of Gordon would have made the offense more consistent. In spite of injuries, I think the Royals would have been okay w/o Soria and his 8 mil. a year. Whit is coming back down to earth. Dyson in left, although not a long term replacement, would have made a capable defensive replacement for Gordon. Hindsight being 20/20 and all . . . . . |
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Join Date: Sep 2000
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The Gordon signing was going to be problematic to a team like the Royals, even if he maintained his production.
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