just more speculation about RGIII

[tooge]

Well, at least they mention the chiefs


Robert Griffin trade rumors already spinning out of control
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 28, 2012, 4:04 PM EST

APForget the Combine. Forget free agency. Robert Griffin III trade chatter dominates the NFL discussion these days.

And it’s still February.

Perhaps Rams COO Kevin Demoff is right: It’s getting less crazy to imagine a deal could be completed before free agency. We’ve read and heard an unprecedented amount of trade rumors about the No. 2 overall pick for this time of year.

Let’s go over the latest:

1. Mike Jones of the Washington Post writes the Redskins would give up the No. 6 overall pick and next year’s first round pick in addition to multiple picks in the mid-to-upper rounds of the draft. Consider this the starting point for negotiations.

The Rams are reportedly looking for a similar package to the one San Diego netted for Eli Manning: Two firsts (including the No. 4 overall pick), a third- and fifth-round pick. The Redskins sound ready to meet this demand.

2. Texas A&M prospect Ryan Tannehill is watching the Griffin talk closely. Jones believes the Redskins would take Tannehill at No. 6 overal if they can’t get Griffin.

3. Terry Pluto of the Cleveland Plain-Dealer believes the Browns will ultimately have to give up three first-round picks in order to land Griffin. Do I hear four, Redskins? (This reminds us of a classic article by the Onion.)

4. Demoff told Peter King of SI.com that the Rams received a feeler from a team “you would never expect.” Does Kansas City count? If not, we’ll roll with Philadelphia as our irresponsible guess for a mystery team. Enter your pick below.

5. The St. Louis Post-Dispatch considers the Redskins the early favorite to land Griffin. This sounds true based on all the reports, plus Mike Shanahan’s close relationship with Jeff Fisher.

[Dayze]

We can pick up RGIII when he's released in 2022. Championship....

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Can't do that. It will set this franchise back 5-6 years. Too expensive. We just need to hope he falls to us or hope a good one falls to us next year, or the year after that, or the year after that etc.... Until then we will start someone else's backup or washed up veteran.

i would still consider it

RGIII would be our 1st round pick this year
lose our 2nd
lose next year's 1st and 2nd
lose Bowe or Carr

sign a FA wr to replace Bowe
we already are losing Carr

not having a pick until the 3rd round next year would hurt but it's not going to destroy the team. We have enough money to fill more in FA.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Laz

i would still consider it

RGIII would be our 1st round pick this year
lose our 2nd
lose next year's 1st and 2nd
lose Bowe or Carr

sign a FA wr to replace Bowe
we already are losing Carr

not having a pick until the 3rd round next year would hurt but it's not going to destroy the team. We have enough money to fill more in FA.

I completely agree with you, just posting the inevitable argument before it is by someone else does.

[O.city]

If you wanted to really try and tag and trade Carr, we need to try and do it with a team that is above us int he draft.


If you could do it with Carolina for instance you would really have a chacne to get up to the 2 pick.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by O.city

If you wanted to really try and tag and trade Carr, we need to try and do it with a team that is above us int he draft.


If you could do it with Carolina for instance you would really have a chacne to get up to the 2 pick.

yea, that's true but would a team that high be willing to give that high pick up for Bowe or Carr?

Cleveland has #4 and #22

if we got the pick from Dallas we would have #11 and #14

don't know what the value comparison would be us vs cleveland in that scenario.

[O.city]

Dunno, thats the question.

[Mr. Laz]

With the old value chart it would be really close

Cleveland:
#4 - 2400
#22 - 1050
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total 3450

Chiefs
#11 - 1700
#14 - 1450
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Total - 3150

300 point difference = low 3rd round draft pick

[O.city]

If you could do that, it would be a pretty good deal.


I think alot of the reason the Browns are considered favs is that they can trade and still allow the Rams to get one of the blue chippers in the draft, like Blackmon or Kalil.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by O.city

If you could do that, it would be a pretty good deal.


I think alot of the reason the Browns are considered favs is that they can trade and still allow the Rams to get one of the blue chippers in the draft, like Blackmon or Kalil.

yep, but some people insist that the Rams are in a terrible cap situation so maybe the Rams can't afford a top 5 pick.

maybe 2 mid 1st round picks would work better with their cap room

[O.city]

I think they have cap room to sign a pick, with the new wage scale.


Maybe they could cut Stephen Jackson, drop to 11, get another pick at 14, and take Richardson?

[Epic Fail 007]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Texas A&M played in the Big 12 also, and you want Tannehill? You are a troll

excuse me they are in the SEC

[O.city]

Is this guy serious? ^

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Can't do that. It will set this franchise back 5-6 years. Too expensive. We just need to hope he falls to us or hope a good one falls to us next year, or the year after that, or the year after that etc.... Until then we will start someone else's backup or washed up veteran.

That's not too expensive. That's actually a really good scenario, Laz.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by eric007

excuse me they are in the SEC

Proof you are a troll. That response was totally pointless. He said "played" that is the past tense meaning that they were in the Big XII at the time regardless of where they are now. This is why others say you purposely post the opposite of what everyone else posts.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Laz

yep, but some people insist that the Rams are in a terrible cap situation so maybe the Rams can't afford a top 5 pick.

maybe 2 mid 1st round picks would work better with their cap room

Carr and Bowe are going to cost a hell of a lot more than a top 5 pick. Top 5 picks are very reasonably priced right now. It's not like it was in the past. I highly doubt St. Louis makes the trade for several reasons. #1 - teams rarely trade out of the top 5 pick for a veteran. #2 - it's not just about clearing cap space to sign Carr. It's about clearing cap space so you can start rebuilding your team. Remember that the Chiefs had to systematicallly purge the team of dead weight before we could even THINK about getting aggressive in free agency. St. Louis is in that mode right now too. You can bet that they are much more interested in bringing in cheap rookie talent than they would be one who puts a strain on their long-term cap like Carr or Bowe.

I'm intrigued by your scenario of trading Carr to Dallas for their first rounder, though. Very good thought.