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Direckshun · 11-02-2014, 08:19 PM

This one is huge, people. If you didn't already know, and aren't already reading along in the two threads we're discussing this, this one could be for an NFL tiebreaker. Plus, it is a game we need to win so that we don't have to beat the league's most talented teams later to compensate.

The Bills are 5-3. We are 5-3. This, for all intents and purposes, is a playoff game. And it's in ****ing Buffalo, a place where they're almost as starved for playoff success as we are. Even worse, they're coming off a bye.

What the hell happened in Buffalo? This team was a hopeless dope of a franchise for years. They were awful last year. Now, they're suddenly competent and possibly even good? Without a running game??? What??

I'll tell you what happened. Kyle ****ing Orton happened. All of a sudden, the Bills have a QB who doesn't Belcher their entire chance at success. Orton can, you know, actually pass the ball, can adequately read defenses, and doesn't make gargantuan ****ing mistakes like EJ Manuel and Jeff Tuel did. And prepare yourself for this week, because Claythan is going to be blowing Orton all week and it's going to be ridiculous.

Orton's having a very good year by his standards, but there's two major catches to his success:

The Bills do not have a run game, and therefore depend on Orton for their offensive success.
He is still Kyle Orton.

That means you can expect Orton's effectiveness to evaporate like a Chiefs fan's hopes and dreams when he's under pressure. You can also expect him to struggle squeezing the ball into tight windows, which is why Orton has historically been terrible in the red zone.

He's been better this year in the red zone, but still nobody's idea of a world beater. The primary reason he's been getting some success is because they have their own Percy Harvin, which we apparently struggle mightily with, named Sammie Watkins. This Watkins kid isn't the polished route-runner that Harvin is, but he's bigger and every bit as athletic. He can absolutely torch people, and the Chiefs need to have this asshole on lockdown.

After that, they have several nice, adequate weapons in supporting roles. I've always really liked Scott Chandler at TE, and angled a few years back for the Chiefs to pick him up in FA. Mike Williams is a big WR who had a super productive year in Tampa and can still have a big catch from time to time, Robert Woods is a smooth route runner, and Marquise Goodwin is a re-****ing-diculous speedster.

At RB, it's a mess. Fred Jackson has missed time, and will probably be out. CJ Spiller is dead. Their lead RB, and this is true, is a guy named Boobie Dixon. Also known as Anthony Dixon, he was a 245 lbs, fatass plodder that the 49ers could never find use for. He's meh. They also have Bryce Brown, who is alright.

I really like their OL, which is a reason Orton's been able to sling it fairly well. Cordy Glenn is a ridiculous monster athlete of a LT, but he's still learning and is very young. Seantrel Henderson is another extremely large, very athletic tackle at RT, just a great pair of gigantic athletes there. Erik Wood is a decent, capable center, nothing special, but I don't know much about how Cyril Richardson and Erik Pears are playing at guard. Maybe we've got some New Englanders here who can enlighten us.

So that's a capable offense. But the defense is why they are 5-3.

This defensive line is impossible. Mario Williams is not the game changer he once was, but he gets his off the edge. The middle of the DL is probably the best the NFL has to offer: Marcel Dareus and Kyle Williams are ****ing impossible. They disrupt anything and everything, and are ferocious against the pass (Dareus has SEVEN SACKS) and the run. Shit... is about to get real. Off the other edge they have Jerry Hughes, a former 1st round bust who is off pace to notch 11 sack this year. This DL is the worst.

I don't know anything about Nigel Bradham at OLB, who apparently leads their team in tackles. Keith Rivers is injured again, so they play rookie Preston Brown at the other OLB spot -- Brown is not terribly athletic, but is a sound tackler. They have Brandon Spikes at ILB, the epitome of slow and heady.

Expect a heavy dosage of Stephon Gilmore on Bowe. Gilmore is a physical, smart corner who is a true #1 CB. Leonis McKelvin is a former 1st round bust -- great athlete, but very average at the #2 CB position -- which is probably enough against our poverty receiving corps.

Aaron Williams has been reborn as a very good safety in Buffalo after playing poorly as a CB early in his career. I don't know a damn thing about Da'Norris Searcy but his stats indicate a jack of all trades, and a master of none.

This is one of those games you get up for, people. It's going to be a very intense week getting up for this game, and having to put up with Claynus' Orton-whoring this week won't make it much better.

Let's win this ****ing game.

Direckshun · 11-05-2014, 12:46 AM

Jackson's probably going to play.

Don't know how effective he'll be, but there you have it.

Hammock Parties · 11-05-2014, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

1. As the fan said, they've given up 300 yards on the ground the past two weeks, and we have the best RB combo in the NFL.

Yeah, but the Vikings and Jets have good offensive lines.

There's no reason to think there's going to be running room against this team. We didn't even block the Jets or Rams particularly well.

We need two things to win:

1. A perfect game from Alex Smith.

2. Kyle Orton turnovers.

I don't think either team will run the ball very well.

jonzie04 · 11-05-2014, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Jackson's probably going to play.

Don't know how effective he'll be, but there you have it.

Ahh damnit, I hope he doesn't. Maybe hell be sluggish who kmows

Direckshun · 11-05-2014, 01:47 AM

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...alos-game-plan

Chiefs vs. Bills: Breaking Down Buffalo's Game Plan
By Justin Neuman , Featured Columnist
Nov 5, 2014

After having a week off to get ready for a second-half run, the Buffalo Bills will welcome the Kansas City Chiefs (who are the

?) to Buffalo on Sunday. Both teams sit at 5-3, so a win would springboard the Bills into the playoff hunt and continue the momentum they carried into the bye.

The Bills will have their hands full again, and they can't give away this game at home if they want to be a viable playoff threat. So what can the Bills try to do to get the win? Let's break down their game plan heading into Week 10.

In Houston, Bills Have A Problem

The Bills have gone up against some fearsome pass-rushers this season. Seantrel Henderson (with a little help from his friends) did a good job against Cameron Wake of the Miami Dolphins. The same can't be said when the Bills faced the superhuman known as J.J. Watt.

Now, the Bills will face off with Justin Houston, the NFL leader in sacks. Houston has the capability of wrecking the game much like Watt did. And now, the Bills have Kyle Orton under center. EJ Manuel was still the starter against the Texans, so he was able to escape Watt every now and again. If Houston gets to Orton, it's all over.

One way to do that is to get the ball out quickly. We know the Bills' offensive line has been struggling, so the best way to help that is to keep them from having to protect for too long. Over the course of the game, Houston and Tamba Hali will make the Bills pay if they call long-developing pass plays.

Luckily, the Bills have just the weapon for quick routes.

Here's Sammy Watkins as he catches a quick slant at around the 45-yard line. The cornerback is giving about a five-yard cushion, so Orton takes a three-step drop and delivers it to Watkins. Watkins handled the rest 61 yards later.

If the Bills use slants and screens to Watkins, they can neutralize the pass rush while simultaneously getting the ball in the hands of their best playmaker. They'd be killing two birds with one stone, as it were.

It would also help to get Robert Woods involved. He's also adept at running quick routes and using his agility to make defenders miss. If the Chiefs force someone besides Watkins to beat them, expect Woods to get looks early and often.

Somehow, Smith Manages

Alex Smith might be the ultimate NFL game manager. He minimizes his risks and takes what the defense is allowing. It has shown so far this season as Smith has only thrown four interceptions compared to 11 touchdowns. His longest completion on the season is for 34 yards.

Smith has also completed 67.1 percent of his passes, which means he's hitting short passes and letting his receivers do their work after the catch. Therefore, the cornerbacks for the Bills should press the Chiefs receivers and not let them get clean releases off the line of scrimmage.

If the Bills defenders can disrupt the timing of the offense, it can help the defensive line get to Smith more effectively. Smith gets the ball out quickly, so he isn't sacked too much. In fact, the Chiefs are right in the middle of the league with 19 sacks allowed.

If the Bills allow Smith to pick apart the defense, they could be in for a long day. Tight end Travis Kelce is emerging as a legitimate receiving threat, so he can have a field day over the middle if the Bills let him get free.

If the Bills defense can make sure tackles and keep the Chiefs receivers off balance, it will put more pressure on Smith to take chances deep. That leads to more time spent in the pocket and more chances to bring Smith down. The Bills have been leaning on their defense all season, and they will have to do so again to grab the W against Kansas City.

Direckshun · 11-05-2014, 01:52 AM

http://fantasy.usatoday.com/2014/11/...n-mark-sanchez

Fantasy football sleepers: Bryce Brown will overcome a tough matchup
By: Tim Heaney
13 hours ago

Behold: your Week 10 fantasy football sleepers:

1. QB Mark Sanchez, Philadelphia Eagles vs. Carolina Panthers
$4,400 salary | 8.8% of cap

So it’s come to this. But it makes sense. These aren’t the Jets. Chip Kelly’s offense helps quarterbacks, and stepping in for Nick Foles (collarbone), Sanchez has ample weapons. The Panthers are a defensive corpse compared to last year and have yielded the sixth most fantasy points per game to quarterbacks.

2. RB Bryce Brown, Buffalo Bills at Kansas City Chiefs
$3,400 salary | 6.8% of cap

Kansas City hasn’t allowed a rushing touchdown to this position all year, but have you seen the list of bye-week RBs? Take a chance on Brown, who had his recent bye week to digest his increasing role. The Chiefs have been pestered by quicker, pass-catching running backs of late, including, of all people, Chris Johnson in Week 9. The more talented Brown at least should come closer to matching Anthony Dixon‘s snap total, especially if Buffalo is forced to throw more often. Even if Fred Jackson (groin) returns, that hurts Dixon more than Brown, who’d still be a flex option.

3. WR Justin Hunter, Tennessee Titans at Baltimore Ravens
$4,000 salary | 8.0% of cap

Rookie QB Zach Mettenberger is hard to trust right now, but Hunter’s playmaking ability alone earns him this listing. He snared four passes for 31 yards and a touchdown on a team-leading 10 targets during Mettenberger’s Week 8 NFL debut. Coming off the bye, their chemistry should increase against a secondary that looked like a Pop Warner team without Jimmy Smith (foot).

4. QB Austin Davis, St. Louis Rams at Arizona Cardinals
$5,000 salary | 10.0% of cap

Davis hasn’t topped 160 passing yards in any of the last three weeks but should air it out often, considering St. Louis’ weak rushing offense and Arizona’s excellence at stopping the run. The Cardinals have been vulnerable through the air, however, because of the volume of throws they face.

5. TE Clay Harbor, Jacksonville Jaguars vs. Dallas Cowboys
$4,000 salary | 8.0% of cap

Harbor whiffed in his tasty Week 9 matchup against Cincinnati, but Dallas is showing more holes in its passing defense. The Cowboys have ranked in the top 10 for average fantasy points allowed to tight ends for most of the year.

Hammock Parties · 11-05-2014, 01:54 AM

Lethal. This is Sean Smith kryptonite.

Direckshun · 11-05-2014, 01:55 AM

We've possibly got the best tackling secondary in the NFL. That was just lousy work by a terrible backup.

Hammock Parties · 11-05-2014, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

We've possibly got the best tackling secondary in the NFL. That was just lousy work by a terrible backup.

Sean Smith is a terrible tackler, though. Has been since Miami.

Direckshun · 11-05-2014, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

Sean Smith is a terrible tackler, though. Has been since Miami.

Not when the light is on.

Hammock Parties · 11-05-2014, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Not when the light is on.

Direckshun · 11-05-2014, 02:42 AM

Direckshun · 11-05-2014, 03:25 AM

Weather in Buffalo should be in the mid 40s.

Low chance of precipitation. Kinda high winds, about 10mph.

Direckshun · 11-05-2014, 05:01 AM

According to this stats website, Buffalo gives up the 2nd lowest yards per carry by RBs.

http://www.junkyardjake.com/Matchup/...season1/rb.htm

Yeesh.

Direckshun · 11-05-2014, 05:04 AM

http://www.junkyardjake.com/Matchup/...season1/qb.htm

They're also 3rd best in opposing team's QBR.

This is a beastly ****ing defense. I don't know how we score on them, and I don't know how they score on us.

I've said this earlier in the thread, but I'm thinking the score to this game is going to be ****ing ridiculous.

We could be talking 9 to 6 ridiculous. Cairo Santos vs. Dan Carpenter.

Will be interesting with the high wind.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-05-2014, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

11-02-2014, 08:19 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2083447	Let's talk about the ing Bills. This one is huge, people. If you didn't already know, and aren't already reading along in the two threads we're discussing this, this one could be for an NFL tiebreaker. Plus, it is a game we need to win so that we don't have to beat the league's most talented teams later to compensate. The Bills are 5-3. We are 5-3. This, for all intents and purposes, is a playoff game. And it's in ***ing Buffalo, a place where they're almost* as starved for playoff success as we are. Even worse, they're coming off a bye. What the hell happened in Buffalo? This team was a hopeless dope of a franchise for years. They were awful last year. Now, they're suddenly competent and possibly even good? Without a running game??? What?? I'll tell you what happened. Kyle **ing Orton happened. All of a sudden, the Bills have a QB who doesn't Belcher their entire chance at success. Orton can, you know, actually pass the ball, can adequately read defenses, and doesn't make gargantuan ing mistakes like EJ Manuel and Jeff Tuel did. And prepare yourself for this week, because Claythan is going to be blowing Orton all week and it's going to be ridiculous. Orton's having a very good year by his standards, but there's two major catches to his success: The Bills do not have a run game, and therefore depend on Orton for their offensive success. He is still Kyle Orton. That means you can expect Orton's effectiveness to evaporate like a Chiefs fan's hopes and dreams when he's under pressure. You can also expect him to struggle squeezing the ball into tight windows, which is why Orton has historically been terrible in the red zone. He's been better this year in the red zone, but still nobody's idea of a world beater. The primary reason he's been getting some success is because they have their own Percy Harvin, which we apparently struggle mightily with, named Sammie Watkins. This Watkins kid isn't the polished route-runner that Harvin is, but he's bigger and every bit as athletic. He can absolutely torch people, and the Chiefs need to have this asshole on lockdown. After that, they have several nice, adequate weapons in supporting roles. I've always really liked Scott Chandler at TE, and angled a few years back for the Chiefs to pick him up in FA. Mike Williams is a big WR who had a super productive year in Tampa and can still have a big catch from time to time, Robert Woods is a smooth route runner, and Marquise Goodwin is a re-ing-diculous speedster. At RB, it's a mess. Fred Jackson has missed time, and will probably be out. CJ Spiller is dead. Their lead RB, and this is true, is a guy named Boobie Dixon. Also known as Anthony Dixon, he was a 245 lbs, fatass plodder that the 49ers could never find use for. He's meh. They also have Bryce Brown, who is alright. I really like their OL, which is a reason Orton's been able to sling it fairly well. Cordy Glenn is a ridiculous monster athlete of a LT, but he's still learning and is very young. Seantrel Henderson is another extremely large, very athletic tackle at RT, just a great pair of gigantic athletes there. Erik Wood is a decent, capable center, nothing special, but I don't know much about how Cyril Richardson and Erik Pears are playing at guard. Maybe we've got some New Englanders here who can enlighten us. So that's a capable offense. But the defense is why they are 5-3. This defensive line is impossible. Mario Williams is not the game changer he once was, but he gets his off the edge. The middle of the DL is probably the best the NFL has to offer: Marcel Dareus and Kyle Williams are ing impossible. They disrupt anything and everything, and are ferocious against the pass (Dareus has SEVEN SACKS) and the run. Shit... is about to get real. Off the other edge they have Jerry Hughes, a former 1st round bust who is off pace to notch 11 sack this year. This DL is the worst. I don't know anything about Nigel Bradham at OLB, who apparently leads their team in tackles. Keith Rivers is injured again, so they play rookie Preston Brown at the other OLB spot -- Brown is not terribly athletic, but is a sound tackler. They have Brandon Spikes at ILB, the epitome of slow and heady. Expect a heavy dosage of Stephon Gilmore on Bowe. Gilmore is a physical, smart corner who is a true #1 CB. Leonis McKelvin is a former 1st round bust -- great athlete, but very average at the #2 CB position -- which is probably enough against our poverty receiving corps. Aaron Williams has been reborn as a very good safety in Buffalo after playing poorly as a CB early in his career. I don't know a damn thing about Da'Norris Searcy but his stats indicate a jack of all trades, and a master of none. This is one of those games you get up for, people. It's going to be a very intense week getting up for this game, and having to put up with Claynus' Orton-whoring this week won't make it much better. Let's win this **ing game.
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Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2083447	http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...alos-game-plan Chiefs vs. Bills: Breaking Down Buffalo's Game Plan By Justin Neuman , Featured Columnist Nov 5, 2014 After having a week off to get ready for a second-half run, the Buffalo Bills will welcome the Kansas City Chiefs (who are the ?) to Buffalo on Sunday. Both teams sit at 5-3, so a win would springboard the Bills into the playoff hunt and continue the momentum they carried into the bye. The Bills will have their hands full again, and they can't give away this game at home if they want to be a viable playoff threat. So what can the Bills try to do to get the win? Let's break down their game plan heading into Week 10. In Houston, Bills Have A Problem The Bills have gone up against some fearsome pass-rushers this season. Seantrel Henderson (with a little help from his friends) did a good job against Cameron Wake of the Miami Dolphins. The same can't be said when the Bills faced the superhuman known as J.J. Watt. Now, the Bills will face off with Justin Houston, the NFL leader in sacks. Houston has the capability of wrecking the game much like Watt did. And now, the Bills have Kyle Orton under center. EJ Manuel was still the starter against the Texans, so he was able to escape Watt every now and again. If Houston gets to Orton, it's all over. One way to do that is to get the ball out quickly. We know the Bills' offensive line has been struggling, so the best way to help that is to keep them from having to protect for too long. Over the course of the game, Houston and Tamba Hali will make the Bills pay if they call long-developing pass plays. Luckily, the Bills have just the weapon for quick routes. Here's Sammy Watkins as he catches a quick slant at around the 45-yard line. The cornerback is giving about a five-yard cushion, so Orton takes a three-step drop and delivers it to Watkins. Watkins handled the rest 61 yards later. If the Bills use slants and screens to Watkins, they can neutralize the pass rush while simultaneously getting the ball in the hands of their best playmaker. They'd be killing two birds with one stone, as it were. It would also help to get Robert Woods involved. He's also adept at running quick routes and using his agility to make defenders miss. If the Chiefs force someone besides Watkins to beat them, expect Woods to get looks early and often. Somehow, Smith Manages Alex Smith might be the ultimate NFL game manager. He minimizes his risks and takes what the defense is allowing. It has shown so far this season as Smith has only thrown four interceptions compared to 11 touchdowns. His longest completion on the season is for 34 yards. Smith has also completed 67.1 percent of his passes, which means he's hitting short passes and letting his receivers do their work after the catch. Therefore, the cornerbacks for the Bills should press the Chiefs receivers and not let them get clean releases off the line of scrimmage. If the Bills defenders can disrupt the timing of the offense, it can help the defensive line get to Smith more effectively. Smith gets the ball out quickly, so he isn't sacked too much. In fact, the Chiefs are right in the middle of the league with 19 sacks allowed. If the Bills allow Smith to pick apart the defense, they could be in for a long day. Tight end Travis Kelce is emerging as a legitimate receiving threat, so he can have a field day over the middle if the Bills let him get free. If the Bills defense can make sure tackles and keep the Chiefs receivers off balance, it will put more pressure on Smith to take chances deep. That leads to more time spent in the pocket and more chances to bring Smith down. The Bills have been leaning on their defense all season, and they will have to do so again to grab the W against Kansas City.
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11-05-2014, 01:52 AM	#275
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2083447	http://fantasy.usatoday.com/2014/11/...n-mark-sanchez Fantasy football sleepers: Bryce Brown will overcome a tough matchup By: Tim Heaney 13 hours ago Behold: your Week 10 fantasy football sleepers: 1. QB Mark Sanchez, Philadelphia Eagles vs. Carolina Panthers $4,400 salary \| 8.8% of cap So it’s come to this. But it makes sense. These aren’t the Jets. Chip Kelly’s offense helps quarterbacks, and stepping in for Nick Foles (collarbone), Sanchez has ample weapons. The Panthers are a defensive corpse compared to last year and have yielded the sixth most fantasy points per game to quarterbacks. 2. RB Bryce Brown, Buffalo Bills at Kansas City Chiefs $3,400 salary \| 6.8% of cap Kansas City hasn’t allowed a rushing touchdown to this position all year, but have you seen the list of bye-week RBs? Take a chance on Brown, who had his recent bye week to digest his increasing role. The Chiefs have been pestered by quicker, pass-catching running backs of late, including, of all people, Chris Johnson in Week 9. The more talented Brown at least should come closer to matching Anthony Dixon‘s snap total, especially if Buffalo is forced to throw more often. Even if Fred Jackson (groin) returns, that hurts Dixon more than Brown, who’d still be a flex option. 3. WR Justin Hunter, Tennessee Titans at Baltimore Ravens $4,000 salary \| 8.0% of cap Rookie QB Zach Mettenberger is hard to trust right now, but Hunter’s playmaking ability alone earns him this listing. He snared four passes for 31 yards and a touchdown on a team-leading 10 targets during Mettenberger’s Week 8 NFL debut. Coming off the bye, their chemistry should increase against a secondary that looked like a Pop Warner team without Jimmy Smith (foot). 4. QB Austin Davis, St. Louis Rams at Arizona Cardinals $5,000 salary \| 10.0% of cap Davis hasn’t topped 160 passing yards in any of the last three weeks but should air it out often, considering St. Louis’ weak rushing offense and Arizona’s excellence at stopping the run. The Cardinals have been vulnerable through the air, however, because of the volume of throws they face. 5. TE Clay Harbor, Jacksonville Jaguars vs. Dallas Cowboys $4,000 salary \| 8.0% of cap Harbor whiffed in his tasty Week 9 matchup against Cincinnati, but Dallas is showing more holes in its passing defense. The Cowboys have ranked in the top 10 for average fantasy points allowed to tight ends for most of the year.
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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $970478	Lethal. This is Sean Smith kryptonite. __________________ Chiefs game films
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Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2083447	We've possibly got the best tackling secondary in the NFL. That was just lousy work by a terrible backup.
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11-05-2014, 03:25 AM	#282
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2083447	Weather in Buffalo should be in the mid 40s. Low chance of precipitation. Kinda high winds, about 10mph.
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11-05-2014, 05:01 AM	#283
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2083447	According to this stats website, Buffalo gives up the 2nd lowest yards per carry by RBs. http://www.junkyardjake.com/Matchup/...season1/rb.htm Yeesh.
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11-05-2014, 05:04 AM	#284
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2083447	http://www.junkyardjake.com/Matchup/...season1/qb.htm They're also 3rd best in opposing team's QBR. This is a beastly **ing defense. I don't know how we score on them, and I don't know how they score on us. I've said this earlier in the thread, but I'm thinking the score to this game is going to be **ing ridiculous. We could be talking 9 to 6 ridiculous. Cairo Santos vs. Dan Carpenter. Will be interesting with the high wind.
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