Life Signs of attraction - Page 2

**Rain Man** · 04-27-2005, 11:03 AM

Below is MSNBC's article about how to tell if a woman is attracted to you.

http://msn.match.com/msn/article.asp...44657&GT1=6428

Attention, men! 4 signs that she's into you
By Matt Christensen

You’re at a bar. You notice a woman. She notices you. You move closer, drink in hand. She tosses her hair and crosses her legs. Does it mean anything? You bet. Is it a good sign? Could be. More than 70% of communication between humans is non-verbal, meaning you can learn a lot, and save yourself from potential embarrassment, just by watching a potential love interest. Check out these things you can tell about a woman before she even says word one.

Clue #1: She’s all decked out
What you can tell: According to Patti Wood, body language expert and professional speaker, a woman’s appearance can translate into how much attention she needs, and is willing to give. “When a woman takes care of herself, men assume she’ll be able to take care of them,” she says. That’s the upside. “But if her appearance is perfectly flawless, that is the standard she’ll measure you by,” explains Kevin Hogan, Ph.D., and author of Irresistible Attraction: Secrets of Personal Magnetism. Are you up for the challenge? Because she may well be one high-maintenance woman.

Clue #2: She licks her lips
What you can tell: “There is a certain kind of lip-licking that means she’s interested,” says Wood. “Look for a slow movement of just the upper part of the tongue across the lips. A woman has to make an effort to do that, so it’s very come-hither.” John South, from Charleston, WV, has used the lip-licking theory to his advantage. “There was a woman at a bar who looked at me and then licked her lips,” he explains. “So, I went over to her and asked her if she needed some ChapStick. She knew I caught her, and she was a little embarrassed, but she told me she was glad I came over.”

Clue #3: She tosses her hair
What you can tell: “Any kind of preening is a woman’s attempt to get noticed,” Wood explains. One particularly good sign: “If she flips her hair back with her wrist exposed, she’s opening herself up to you.” In fact, any exaggerated hair toss (as opposed to a quick sweep of the bangs to get them out of the way), is a positive thing. Chase Massingill, of Queens, NY, says the hair toss has been a good indicator that a woman is interested in him. “One night at a party, I noticed this beautiful woman looking at me, then she looked away and flipped her hair back,” he explains. “I went to talk to her and later found out from one of her friends that she’d been eyeing me all night.”

Clue #4: Her feet face you
What you can tell: “Where the feet go, the heart follows,” explains Wood. “If a woman is into you, the bottom portion of her body will face you. If her lower body is turned away, chances are it’s not shyness, it’s a lack of interest.” Most women have been taught to be polite, so they may turn to face you with their upper bodies, observes Wood. “But the lower body is what separates attraction from civility. Even when she’s talking to other guys, if her feet are pointed toward you, she’s interested. It’s a very good indicator.”

Now that you know how to decode body language, get out there and use this info to approach the women who are interested in you… and not bother with those who aren’t.

Matt Christensen has written for Maxim and The Cleveland Plain Dealer.

So, just for the women, maybe we chiefsplanet guys can write the other side of the article. What are some signs that women can read about you that signals that you might be attracted to them.

I'll start.

1. We keep adjusting our pants.

2. We take off our pants.

3. We sit behind a table and don't stand up.

4. We try to lick your lips.

Hammock Parties · 04-27-2005, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CosmicPal

It's not instincts you need, it's BALLS.

That's what booze is for.

**Iowanian** · 04-27-2005, 02:20 PM

Queen. (not Drag queen...unless you're into Rupal)...

In short........Be nice to the women that other guys aren't, and not so nice to the ones other guys drool after. Never kiss the ass(unless its on the way down on a successful adventure) of a broad that other guys chase around.

Be nice to the gals that other guys aren't.

I'm telling you......It works better than 1984 SexPanther.

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 02:21 PM

There is definitely some truth to the idea that confidence is everything. I wasn't a real popular kid in school, but somehow in high school I scored a really hot girlfriend. No one understood how, most especially me. I married her when I was 18, we have a daughter, etc. And we got divorced when I was 21.

What happened to me in the meantime was that I figured out (basically by a stroke of luck) that I WAS actually capable of scoring hot chicks. I pretty much decided I could have any woman I wanted. I mean I really believed it. And guess what? I found out it was pretty much true. When you are convinced you can have any woman you want, they throw themselves at you.

Now-a-days I know better than to truly believe I can have any woman I want, but I still try to have that kind of confidence and swagger when I approach a woman. It's not about being cocky, but just about knowing that there is nothing about this woman that makes her out of your league. If you believe it, she will too. Sure, sometimes I get rejected. When that happens, I figure there's one of two reasons:

1. I didn't have enough time to work my magic. Given more time, she definitely would have wanted me.

2. I didn't really want her. Since I can have any woman I want, i must not have wanted her, or I'd have her.

Try it, it works.

Hammock Parties · 04-27-2005, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

He keeps them in the original box..they're too valuable.

Well played.

**CosmicPal** · 04-27-2005, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

That's what booze is for.

No, the booze is to make them look better.

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

Queen. (not Drag queen...unless you're into Rupal)...

In short........Be nice to the women that other guys aren't, and not so nice to the ones other guys drool after. Never kiss the ass(unless its on the way down on a successful adventure) of a broad that other guys chase around.

Be nice to the gals that other guys aren't.

I'm telling you......It works better than 1984 SexPanther.

I do agree with this one, too. If you are nice to the gals other guys aren't, then one of two things happen:

1. The gals that the other guys want pick you instead. They can't figure out why you are hitting on HER instead of ME, so they take you as a challenge.

2. You go home with the girl that the other guys didn't want. Often times she's the best catch of the bunch anyway (i.e. the one most likely to do anal).

Hammock Parties · 04-27-2005, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

Queen. (not Drag queen...unless you're into Rupal)...

In short........Be nice to the women that other guys aren't, and not so nice to the ones other guys drool after. Never kiss the ass(unless its on the way down on a successful adventure) of a broad that other guys chase around.

Be nice to the gals that other guys aren't.

I'm telling you......It works better than 1984 SexPanther.

That's very interesting. I'll make a note.

**Iowanian** · 04-27-2005, 02:23 PM

gochiefs..........I have a friend who has probably poked 1000 women, and i'm not joking. Mostly very fine specimins. He didn't have a chic-tionary....he had a fargin 10gig palm pilot..with broads in every corner of 3 states.

The secret to his success, besides being a decent looking cat, is Baows....and lack of fear of failure. The same guy has probably been turned down by 50,000 women.

I've SEEN him stick his head out a window at a stop sign to a group of gals (when in HS) and say "Hey ladies...which one of you wants to EFF me".....and one jumped in.

Persistance is the key.

Hammock Parties · 04-27-2005, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CosmicPal

No, the booze is to make them look better.

I never drink that much.

Simplex3 · 04-27-2005, 02:26 PM

Hey gochiefs, an old boss of mine had a saying:

"If you walk down the street asking every girl to f**k you'll get slapped a lot but you'll get laid a lot too."

It's all about having the balls to start it off and act like you're supposed to be there. Games will get you nothing but laid, a relationship based on games won't work. Hookers are for getting laid and cost a lot less time and energy than games. Hookers are also a sure thing.

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ENDelt260

Clearly she didn't recognize the god among men standing before her.

You do know that you are not the guy in your avatar, right?

**Iowanian** · 04-27-2005, 02:28 PM

gochiefs.........I'll caution you on your use of the Prick button....I don't think you should do that without a governor on the carb...

you should start out, by being nice to the gals that other guys ignore, or aren't nice too. Seriously.

Build confidence.

Every man who has ever asked a woman out has been denied. Sometimes Brutally. Walk it off and move on. I guarantee, if you're not a complete prick, and have reasonable expectations, and ask 10 women you've never met, on a date.....one will go.

All bullshit aside, the best thing that could happen to you would be a 35 year old, newly divorced woman.

Simplex3 · 04-27-2005, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ENDelt260

I dunno about that. I wouldn't put it past gochiefs to get robbed by one and not get any puss.

Wait, that isnt' funny.

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3

"If you walk down the street asking every girl to f**k you'll get slapped a lot but you'll get laid a lot too."

It's so true.

Not that I recommend that technique exactly, but once you find the balls to go up to any woman and have a chat, you'll find you'll get a lot more positive responses. It's just like anything else. You are more likely to hit a home run in 500 at-bats than in one. You're more likely to get a great photo if you snap five rolls of one subject than one.

You gotta get the balls to just go give it a try. And then you gotta get over the rejection and walk up to the next one. Do it enough times, you're Wilt Chamberlin.

**Iowanian** · 04-27-2005, 02:30 PM

You're all just jealous, cause I've been chatting with babes online all day.

Hammock Parties · 04-27-2005, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

gochiefs.........I'll caution you on your use of the Prick button....I don't think you should do that without a governor on the carb...

you should start out, by being nice to the gals that other guys ignore, or aren't nice too. Seriously.

Build confidence.

Every man who has ever asked a woman out has been denied. Sometimes Brutally. Walk it off and move on. I guarantee, if you're not a complete prick, and have reasonable expectations, and ask 10 women you've never met, on a date.....one will go.

I have no doubt...as far as being a prick I am not really capable of that.

Governor on the carb?

**Iowanian** · 04-27-2005, 02:31 PM

I mean I don't think you have a volume control on what the acceptable decible level of Prickdom would be, to still maintain a reasonable chance of success.

luv2nite is looking for a mandongo.....IM the chic and use your Mojo. You'll be on a moped, heading to III's house to shag in no time.

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

gochiefs.........I'll caution you on your use of the Prick button....I don't think you should do that without a governor on the carb...

you should start out, by being nice to the gals that other guys ignore, or aren't nice too. Seriously.

Build confidence.

Every man who has ever asked a woman out has been denied. Sometimes Brutally. Walk it off and move on. I guarantee, if you're not a complete prick, and have reasonable expectations, and ask 10 women you've never met, on a date.....one will go.

All bullshit aside, the best thing that could happen to you would be a 35 year old, newly divorced woman.

I agree with this completely, too. First, learn to punch your own weight. Go for the girls the other guys aren't. They're easy targets. That's not meant to be rude, but it's true. They're not as used to being hit on and they're more likely to be flattered by it. You'll build up your confidence, and get laid in the process. You'll also get rejected in the process, and you'll learn how to deal with it.

You don't have to punch your own weight forever, but if you can't punch your own weight, you definitely can't take on the heavyweight champion of the world.

(Not that I'm into the heavyweights).

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

You're all just jealous, cause I've been chatting with babes online all day.

Besides, we both know I'm training to be a cagefighter.

**Iowanian** · 04-27-2005, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ENDelt260

badgirl says you're a loser.

She's just jealous because I type 65 wpm with my tongue.....

As for attraction of chics........I always found laughter to be the best antidote for buttons and victoria's secret elastic.

Simplex3 · 04-27-2005, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jcroft

It's so true.

Not that I recommend that technique exactly, but once you find the balls to go up to any woman and have a chat, you'll find you'll get a lot more positive responses. It's just like anything else. You are more likely to hit a home run in 500 at-bats than in one. You're more likely to get a great photo if you snap five rolls of one subject than one.

You gotta get the balls to just go give it a try. And then you gotta get over the rejection and walk up to the next one. Do it enough times, you're Wilt Chamberlin.

Agreed. The best "secret" I ever developed was to go up, start a conversation about something that was happening in the same room, then after 3 to 5 minutes say "great to meet you" and walk away. 25% of the time they'd come ask you out later, 25% of the time you could "accidentally" bump into them later and ask them out. Hell, I'd frequently have one of their friends come ask me out after I'd walked away.

The rest of the time I found out by chatting I wasn't interrested or figured I was playing out of my league. If you go in with no pressure on yourself other than to have a conversation it's easier to get the balls up.

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3

Agreed. The best "secret" I ever developed was to go up, start a conversation about something that was happening in the same room, then after 3 to 5 minutes say "great to meet you" and walk away. 25% of the time they'd come ask you out later, 25% of the time you could "accidentally" bump into them later and ask them out. Hell, I'd frequently have one of their friends come ask me out after I'd walked away.

The rest of the time I found out by chatting I wasn't interrested or figured I was playing out of my league. If you go in with no pressure on yourself other than to have a conversation it's easier to get the balls up.

Yeah, that's a good technique, and perfect for bars. See a girl you like at the bar? Go get a drink. Stand next to her. Chat it up about anything that comes to mind. See what you think. Tell her it was nice to meet her and walk away.

Like you said -- they often come back looking for you later. Or you see them later and have a good reason to say hi and chat again (you already met). And if neither happens, you didn't lose anything but a few minutes at the bar -- and you got a drink, so even that was worth it.

**Iowanian** · 04-27-2005, 02:53 PM

I can't wait until kcchiefsman weighs in on this subject. I'll take notes.

**Rain Man** · 04-27-2005, 02:54 PM

I think the only surefire way to attract women is to be rich.

Hammock Parties · 04-27-2005, 02:54 PM

I have a couple chat logs with a chick I met on plentyoffish.com...anyone want to "critique" them?

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I think the only surefire way to attract women is to be rich.

Or look rich. I am by no means rich, but I do drive a decent looking car (which I lease), have a fairly nice apartment (which looks like a million bucks but doesn't really cost that much), and wear nice-looking clothes (which are Gap, but can easily pass for Prada or D&G, at least to most of Manhattan's college girls).

It seems to help.

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

I have a couple chat logs with a chick I met on plentyoffish.com...anyone want to "critique" them?

Sure!

4th and Long · 04-27-2005, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

I have a couple chat logs with a chick I met on plentyoffish.com...anyone want to "critique" them?

The part of my brain that controls the filter between my brain and my mouth says, "No Way!" However, the part of my brain that makes me look at car wrecks while checking for body parts in the road says, "HELL YES!"

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 4th and Long

The part of my brain that controls the filter between my brain and my mouth says, "No Way!" However, the part of my brain that makes me look at car wrecks while checking for body parts in the road says, "HELL YES!"

Every part of me says "HELL YES!" But then, it's possible I was born without that filter you are referring to.

ChiefsCountry · 04-27-2005, 03:04 PM

**Skip Towne** · 04-27-2005, 03:05 PM

Also, Gochiefs, getting women hasn't got much to do with instincts. It has a lot more to do with social skills that are learned by trial and error and watching what seems to work for others. I'm assuming you don't have a lot of friends to help you out with the latter. But a couple of years ago Austinchief offered to wingman for you to help you become more comfortable around women. I can't think of anyone more qualified to help you out than Austinchief. But, IIRC, you weren't interested in his help. You should have jumped on that opportunity and maybe you still could although it seems you've moved from that area since then. At any rate, if you know someone that does well with women it sure wouldn't hurt to tag along if possible. Something else you might try is to get a job as a bartender at a popular place near you. That is a built in reason to talk to lots of women. Everybody will talk to the bartender and it's his job to talk to the customers. I never loaded so many women in my life as when I bartended during my college years. Just an idea.

Hammock Parties · 04-27-2005, 03:05 PM

Very well....flame away.

I have some pics of her as well...I don't know why I bothered talking to her, she was clearly out of my league.

http://jastermereel.homestead.com/files/chat.htm

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

Also, Gochiefs, getting women hasn't got much to do with instincts. It has a lot more to do with social skills that are learned by trial and error and watching what seems to work for others. I'm assuming you don't have a lot of friends to help you out with the latter. But a couple of years ago Austinchief offered to wingman for you to help you become more comfortable around women. I can't think of anyone more qualified to help you out than Austinchief. But, IIRC, you weren't interested in his help. You should have jumped on that opportunity and maybe you still could although it seems you've moved from that area since then. At any rate, if you know someone that does well with women it sure wouldn't hurt to tag along if possible. Something else you might try is to get a job as a bartender at a popular place near you. That is a built in reason to talk to lots of women. Everybody will talk to the bartender and it's his job to talk to the customers. I never loaded so many women in my life as when I bartended during my college years. Just an idea.

Or you could try hanging out at abortion clinics. I hear there are lots of loose girls there.

4th and Long · 04-27-2005, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

Very well....flame away.

I have some pics of her as well...I don't know why I bothered talking to her, she was clearly out of my league.

http://jastermereel.homestead.com/files/chat.htm

Post the pics, beotch!

Brock · 04-27-2005, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

Very well....flame away.

I have some pics of her as well...I don't know why I bothered talking to her, she was clearly out of my league.

http://jastermereel.homestead.com/files/chat.htm

That was.....icky. The best advice you're ever going to get is "Get off the internet and into the real world".

Hammock Parties · 04-27-2005, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 4th and Long

Post the pics, beotch!

As soon as everyone's read the chat log.

munkey · 04-27-2005, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I think the only surefire way to attract women is to be rich.

I thought it was a tin-foil wrapped cucumber stuffed down the front of spandex pants....

Hammock Parties · 04-27-2005, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by munkey

I thought it was a tin-foil wrapped cucumber stuffed down the front of spandex pants....

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 03:15 PM

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bfett81: my sister's friends all like rap
bfett81: they are all white too
bfett81: its highly annoying
GirlUsed: annoying
GirlUsed: awww
GirlUsed: how cute are we
bfett81: cute?
GirlUsed: or gay
GirlUsed: whatever
GirlUsed:

I'm not really sure what happened here, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't good for you.

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 03:15 PM

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GirlUsed: do you have any pics by the way
bfett81: not right now, i have to get the digital camera back

Get some. Not having pictures of yourself when chatting online is like not having a baseball bat when you step up to the plate.

Simplex3 · 04-27-2005, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 4th and Long

Post the pics, beotch!

Why, they aren't of the guy, er, "girl" he was chatting with...

munkey · 04-27-2005, 03:16 PM

You've never seen Spinal Tap have you?

4th and Long · 04-27-2005, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

As soon as everyone's read the chat log.

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 03:17 PM

Still reading, but, I probably wouldn't have gone into this:

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bfett81: my family all went up to missouri
bfett81: i decided not to join them
GirlUsed: awww
GirlUsed: you stayed home alone?
bfett81: well i dont really like dad's side of the family all that much
GirlUsed: oh
bfett81: their like strangers to me
bfett81: i hardly knew them growing up

It's a bit too "I want you to be my friend and console me," as opposed to, "I want to hump your brains out."

To your credit, you got off it pretty fast with the "bfett81: its not a big deal lol".

Hammock Parties · 04-27-2005, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jcroft

I'm not really sure what happened here, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't good for you.

Why? She didn't like rap.

4th and Long · 04-27-2005, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3

Why, they aren't of the guy, er, "girl" he was chatting with...

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 03:18 PM

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bfett81: jeez
bfett81: i LOVE redheads
GirlUsed: awww
GirlUsed: finally!
GirlUsed: its red now, i havent dyed it in forever
bfett81: redheads > brunettes > blondes

Don't get so excited. Tell them you think they look good, but don't overdo it. Saying, "OH MY GOD YOU ARE SO HOT I LOVE REDHEADS" makes you sound desperate (which you are, but don't let them know that).

Hammock Parties · 04-27-2005, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jcroft

Get some. Not having pictures of yourself when chatting online is like not having a baseball bat when you step up to the plate.

I have some now...this chat is from months ago.

**Donger** · 04-27-2005, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

Why? She didn't like rap.

May I offer some advice?

Some gals may not take too well to the euphemism, "Draining the lizard."

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 03:19 PM

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bfett81: i think you look better with less makeup

That's kind of risky. I know you were trying to be nice, but you never know how they're going to react to something like that. I'd avoid it. Looks like it worked out okay for you i this case, though.

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 03:20 PM

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bfett81: you have nice eyes
bfett81: *cough* cliche
GirlUsed: lol thanks

At least you know it was a cliche. I'd probably think of something else to say, even if you did really like her eyes.

Simplex3 · 04-27-2005, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 4th and Long

How many good looking young chicks are Internet dating AND don't have a schlong?

Best case scenario she probably has some pretty serious emotional issues, after all she is still living at home and making liquor runs FOR HER PARENTS...

Of course we are talking about goatcheese here...

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 03:22 PM

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bfett81: do you have gmail?
GirlUsed: no
GirlUsed: and hey im allison
bfett81: its a google email account with a gigabyte of storage
bfett81: and hey im clay
GirlUsed: :-)
bfett81: you can only get one through invite
bfett81: so if you want one just say so
GirlUsed: i dont even know what a gigabyte is
GirlUsed: im pretty computer stupid
bfett81: one thousand megabytes
bfett81: its searchable too, so you can find old emails
bfett81: basically you never have to delete anything

And you thought the orchestral soundtracks were a nerd alert? Stay off of the gmail talk, man. It's not very much of an aphrodisiac.

Also, get the introductions out of the way a long time before this point.

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 03:23 PM

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bfett81: draining the lizard

Oh man. You are hopeless.

Say this to your wife after 30 years of marriage, not to a girl you're trying to pick up on!

Hammock Parties · 04-27-2005, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jcroft

And you thought the orchestral soundtracks were a nerd alert? Stay off of the gmail talk, man. It's not very much of an aphrodisiac.

Also, get the introductions out of the way a long time before this point.

If she's not interested in me because of those things, I didn't need her shallow ass anyway.

Simplex3 · 04-27-2005, 03:25 PM

One thing I noticed in the chat was you were acting too eager. Help with this, compliment that, help with something else...

She's already established you don't have a life if you're available all the time to some stranger. Now, some girls are Ok with that but those are the type that want to run your life and they're the worst kind IMO.

4th and Long · 04-27-2005, 03:25 PM

jcroft, with your in depth analysis at it's current pace, one of the Mods is going to change your user name to Dr. Phil. You were warned.

Brock · 04-27-2005, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

If she's not interested in me because of those things, I didn't need her shallow ass anyway.

Yeah, you're just waiting for the RIGHT ONE.

Hammock Parties · 04-27-2005, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jcroft

Oh man. You are hopeless.

Say this to your wife after 30 years of marriage, not to a girl you're trying to pick up on!

Now I have to tiptoe around the american vernacular? I thought I was supposed to have some balls.

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 03:26 PM

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bfett81: im not much for wine or beer

I'm also not much for wine or beer. But, I wouldn't tell them that if you don't have to. Some (stupid) girls will take this to mean you aren't sophisticated (wine) or manly (beer). Find a few cocktails you like that aren't too girly for when you meet in person. As someone who seems to make a habit of being mistaken for gay, I can assure you that people make judgments based on what you are drinking (it's stupid, but they do it).

**Iowanian** · 04-27-2005, 03:27 PM

gochiefs is definitely no "bloodninja"

Hammock Parties · 04-27-2005, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

gochiefs is definitely no "bloodninja"

**Donger** · 04-27-2005, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

Now I have to tiptoe around the american vernacular? I thought I was supposed to have some balls.

Another hint: she's not a guy, you putz. Most females don't like to be spoken to as if they were one of your guy friends.

Hammock Parties · 04-27-2005, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Yeah, you're just waiting for the RIGHT ONE.

I gotta be me.

4th and Long · 04-27-2005, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

gochiefs is definitely no "bloodninja"

Simplex3 · 04-27-2005, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

If she's not interested in me because of those things, I didn't need her shallow ass anyway.

That sounds all swell and good but you have to decide what your core beliefs are and be ready to comprimise the rest.

I'm not the same man I was when my wife and I met. I do things differently. I work more, I'm more focused, etc. I would happily space off for a week or more before we got together. However, I wasn't dead set that I would space off, it wasn't a core value. So I comprimised that out of my life.

Also, your nerd-dom isn't a core value. I NEVER speak to my wife about the details of my work. She couldn't care less. It isn't who I am anyway, no more than gmail is who you are.

**Iowanian** · 04-27-2005, 03:30 PM

"I gotta be me"

In that case dude..........you need to just find yourself some Half ton Home Bound (Gilbert Grape's mother) and pretend she's Jabba the Hutt.

ChiefsCountry · 04-27-2005, 03:30 PM

Okay here is my advice,

I'm not the best at picking chicks up, kinda of on the shy side, but when I do chicks love me. Be nice, compliant them on everything, be a man that is the most important thing. Tell them the cool stuff about you, not geeky stuff. Also about the money thing, I will admit my family is fairly well off which, we are not wealthy but we live very comfortable, is something I try to avoid at all costs around girls. One I want them to like me cause of who I am and not because what we have.

Also a big thing is the apartment/pad/house this is the big key. If you are a college age guy, the beer posters and playboy pictures are fine for a dorm room but if you live off campus dont put that stuff up. Make your living area look like a man's place and not a kids. Get some art work for the walls and fake plants, mirrors look cool. Trust me, chicks dig my place.

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 03:31 PM

Okay, overall, you're not so bad, Mr. Gochiefs. The most important thing I can say is avoid that nerd talk. Some girls like nerdy guys. But that doesn't mean they want to talk about digital cameras and gmail. It means they think it's cute if you have glasses and are kind of skinny. If a girl really is a geek herself, you'll figure it out and you can talk about gmail to your little heart's content. Until then, just stop it.

Also, I'd probably avoid telling drunken stories right away -- although this girl didn't seem to mind it.

The other big thing here is that, while it wasn't really a BAD conversation, you didn't seem that interested in getting to know her. I think you ought to be asking more questions about her. Where's she from? What's her family like? What kind of music does she like (you kind of got into this a little bit)? What does she like to do for fun? Where does she work? Etc. Girls, in general, love to have a guy really talk to her and seem interested in getting to know more about her.

And don't forget to ask if she does anal.

Hammock Parties · 04-27-2005, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplex3

That sounds all swell and good but you have to decide what your core beliefs are and be ready to comprimise the rest.

I'm not the same man I was when my wife and I met. I do things differently. I work more, I'm more focused, etc. I would happily space off for a week or more before we got together. However, I wasn't dead set that I would space off, it wasn't a core value. So I comprimised that out of my life.

Also, your nerd-dom isn't a core value. I NEVER speak to my wife about the details of my work. She couldn't care less. It isn't who I am anyway, no more than gmail is who you are.

Those things aren't part of my "core values" either. That's all the more reason she shouldn't have a problem with them. If she does....

**Iowanian** · 04-27-2005, 03:33 PM

as much as you talk about Anal, its no wonder people think you're gay.

between that, and the Abercrombie Turtleneck...you just might be.

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gochiefs

If she's not interested in me because of those things, I didn't need her shallow ass anyway.

I understand the attitude, but my point is this: girls don't want to TALK about it. It's not bad that you're interested in it, but she's probably not. You've got to find things to talk about that she is interested in, or you're bore her.

ChiefsCountry · 04-27-2005, 03:35 PM

Oh another thing, if you have a girl that is really good friend have her help you shop for clothes. Girls pick out stuff they like for you, and you get to reap the rewards.

Brock · 04-27-2005, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gochiefs

Those things aren't part of my "core values" either. That's all the more reason she shouldn't have a problem with them. If she does....

Poor thing. If she'd only take the time to get to know the real Boba.

Simplex3 · 04-27-2005, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Be nice, compliant them on everything...

...Get some art work for the walls and fake plants, mirrors look cool. Trust me, chicks dig my place.

1. I always found the more I complimented them the more they wanted to introduce me to their fat, ugly friend.

2. Don't show them that mirror on the ceiling above your bed. Let them find it themselves.

3. Fake plants are a guy's best friend. If you can keep real ones alive that's even more impressive, but I never could.

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gochiefs

Now I have to tiptoe around the american vernacular? I thought I was supposed to have some balls.

You've got to feel a girl out before you know if you can say stuff like that around her. It's not good first-date or first-chat material. Some girls will find it offensive or simply stupid. Others won't mind. Find out which she is before you start saying stuff like that. Most, I think, will feel that it makes you sound immature.

Hammock Parties · 04-27-2005, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcroft

Okay, overall, you're not so bad, Mr. Gochiefs. The most important thing I can say is avoid that nerd talk. Some girls like nerdy guys. But that doesn't mean they want to talk about digital cameras and gmail. It means they think it's cute if you have glasses and are kind of skinny. If a girl really is a geek herself, you'll figure it out and you can talk about gmail to your little heart's content. Until then, just stop it.

Also, I'd probably avoid telling drunken stories right away -- although this girl didn't seem to mind it.

The other big thing here is that, while it wasn't really a BAD conversation, you didn't seem that interested in getting to know her. I think you ought to be asking more questions about her. Where's she from? What's her family like? What kind of music does she like (you kind of got into this a little bit)? What does she like to do for fun? Where does she work? Etc. Girls, in general, love to have a guy really talk to her and seem interested in getting to know more about her.

And don't forget to ask if she does anal.

Thanks for the pointers. I'll add that I haven't spoken to Ms. Girlused since this encounter.

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Also a big thing is the apartment/pad/house this is the big key. If you are a college age guy, the beer posters and playboy pictures are fine for a dorm room but if you live off campus dont put that stuff up. Make your living area look like a man's place and not a kids. Get some art work for the walls and fake plants, mirrors look cool. Trust me, chicks dig my place.

I agree with this 100%. As a non-college guy (I'm 28) who regularly picks on on college girls (hey, I live in Manhattan), I can assure you that they love this kind of thing.

However -- get real plants, dude! Damn!

jcroft · 04-27-2005, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian

as much as you talk about Anal, its no wonder people think you're gay.

between that, and the Abercrombie Turtleneck...you just might be.

I have neither a single piece of Abercrombie gear nor a single turtleneck in my wardrobe.

ChiefsCountry · 04-27-2005, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcroft

However -- get real plants, dude! Damn!

If I had real ones they would be dead.

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04-27-2005, 02:20 PM	#82
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04-27-2005, 02:21 PM	#83
jcroft Thread-Stopper Extrodinaire Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Casino cash: $10004900	There is definitely some truth to the idea that confidence is everything. I wasn't a real popular kid in school, but somehow in high school I scored a really hot girlfriend. No one understood how, most especially me. I married her when I was 18, we have a daughter, etc. And we got divorced when I was 21. What happened to me in the meantime was that I figured out (basically by a stroke of luck) that I WAS actually capable of scoring hot chicks. I pretty much decided I could have any woman I wanted. I mean I really believed it. And guess what? I found out it was pretty much true. When you are convinced you can have any woman you want, they throw themselves at you. Now-a-days I know better than to truly believe I can have any woman I want, but I still try to have that kind of confidence and swagger when I approach a woman. It's not about being cocky, but just about knowing that there is nothing about this woman that makes her out of your league. If you believe it, she will too. Sure, sometimes I get rejected. When that happens, I figure there's one of two reasons: 1. I didn't have enough time to work my magic. Given more time, she definitely would have wanted me. 2. I didn't really want her. Since I can have any woman I want, i must not have wanted her, or I'd have her. Try it, it works. __________________ Jeff Croft jeffcroft.com
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04-27-2005, 02:23 PM	#88
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1828454	gochiefs..........I have a friend who has probably poked 1000 women, and i'm not joking. Mostly very fine specimins. He didn't have a chic-tionary....he had a fargin 10gig palm pilot..with broads in every corner of 3 states. The secret to his success, besides being a decent looking cat, is Baows....and lack of fear of failure. The same guy has probably been turned down by 50,000 women. I've SEEN him stick his head out a window at a stop sign to a group of gals (when in HS) and say "Hey ladies...which one of you wants to EFF me".....and one jumped in. Persistance is the key. Last edited by Iowanian; 04-27-2005 at 02:37 PM..
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04-27-2005, 02:26 PM	#90
Simplex3 MVP Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $10004900	Hey gochiefs, an old boss of mine had a saying: "If you walk down the street asking every girl to f**k you'll get slapped a lot but you'll get laid a lot too." It's all about having the balls to start it off and act like you're supposed to be there. Games will get you nothing but laid, a relationship based on games won't work. Hookers are for getting laid and cost a lot less time and energy than games. Hookers are also a sure thing.
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04-27-2005, 02:28 PM	#92
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1828454	gochiefs.........I'll caution you on your use of the Prick button....I don't think you should do that without a governor on the carb... you should start out, by being nice to the gals that other guys ignore, or aren't nice too. Seriously. Build confidence. Every man who has ever asked a woman out has been denied. Sometimes Brutally. Walk it off and move on. I guarantee, if you're not a complete prick, and have reasonable expectations, and ask 10 women you've never met, on a date.....one will go. All bullshit aside, the best thing that could happen to you would be a 35 year old, newly divorced woman.
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04-27-2005, 02:30 PM	#95
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04-27-2005, 02:31 PM	#97
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1828454	I mean I don't think you have a volume control on what the acceptable decible level of Prickdom would be, to still maintain a reasonable chance of success. luv2nite is looking for a mandongo.....IM the chic and use your Mojo. You'll be on a moped, heading to III's house to shag in no time.
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04-27-2005, 02:53 PM	#103
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04-27-2005, 02:54 PM	#104
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04-27-2005, 02:54 PM	#105
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04-27-2005, 03:04 PM	#110
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04-27-2005, 03:05 PM	#111
Skip Towne Supporter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: T-Town Casino cash: $10004900	Also, Gochiefs, getting women hasn't got much to do with instincts. It has a lot more to do with social skills that are learned by trial and error and watching what seems to work for others. I'm assuming you don't have a lot of friends to help you out with the latter. But a couple of years ago Austinchief offered to wingman for you to help you become more comfortable around women. I can't think of anyone more qualified to help you out than Austinchief. But, IIRC, you weren't interested in his help. You should have jumped on that opportunity and maybe you still could although it seems you've moved from that area since then. At any rate, if you know someone that does well with women it sure wouldn't hurt to tag along if possible. Something else you might try is to get a job as a bartender at a popular place near you. That is a built in reason to talk to lots of women. Everybody will talk to the bartender and it's his job to talk to the customers. I never loaded so many women in my life as when I bartended during my college years. Just an idea.
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04-27-2005, 03:05 PM	#112
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04-27-2005, 03:16 PM	#122
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04-27-2005, 03:25 PM	#136
Simplex3 MVP Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $10004900	One thing I noticed in the chat was you were acting too eager. Help with this, compliment that, help with something else... She's already established you don't have a life if you're available all the time to some stranger. Now, some girls are Ok with that but those are the type that want to run your life and they're the worst kind IMO.
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04-27-2005, 03:25 PM	#137
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04-27-2005, 03:27 PM	#141
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1828454	gochiefs is definitely no "bloodninja"
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04-27-2005, 03:30 PM	#147
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1828454	"I gotta be me" In that case dude..........you need to just find yourself some Half ton Home Bound (Gilbert Grape's mother) and pretend she's Jabba the Hutt.
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04-27-2005, 03:30 PM	#148
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1351248	Okay here is my advice, I'm not the best at picking chicks up, kinda of on the shy side, but when I do chicks love me. Be nice, compliant them on everything, be a man that is the most important thing. Tell them the cool stuff about you, not geeky stuff. Also about the money thing, I will admit my family is fairly well off which, we are not wealthy but we live very comfortable, is something I try to avoid at all costs around girls. One I want them to like me cause of who I am and not because what we have. Also a big thing is the apartment/pad/house this is the big key. If you are a college age guy, the beer posters and playboy pictures are fine for a dorm room but if you live off campus dont put that stuff up. Make your living area look like a man's place and not a kids. Get some art work for the walls and fake plants, mirrors look cool. Trust me, chicks dig my place.
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04-27-2005, 03:31 PM	#149
jcroft Thread-Stopper Extrodinaire Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Casino cash: $10004900	Okay, overall, you're not so bad, Mr. Gochiefs. The most important thing I can say is avoid that nerd talk. Some girls like nerdy guys. But that doesn't mean they want to talk about digital cameras and gmail. It means they think it's cute if you have glasses and are kind of skinny. If a girl really is a geek herself, you'll figure it out and you can talk about gmail to your little heart's content. Until then, just stop it. Also, I'd probably avoid telling drunken stories right away -- although this girl didn't seem to mind it. The other big thing here is that, while it wasn't really a BAD conversation, you didn't seem that interested in getting to know her. I think you ought to be asking more questions about her. Where's she from? What's her family like? What kind of music does she like (you kind of got into this a little bit)? What does she like to do for fun? Where does she work? Etc. Girls, in general, love to have a guy really talk to her and seem interested in getting to know more about her. And don't forget to ask if she does anal. __________________ Jeff Croft jeffcroft.com
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04-27-2005, 03:33 PM	#151
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1828454	as much as you talk about Anal, its no wonder people think you're gay. between that, and the Abercrombie Turtleneck...you just might be.
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04-27-2005, 03:35 PM	#153
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1351248	Oh another thing, if you have a girl that is really good friend have her help you shop for clothes. Girls pick out stuff they like for you, and you get to reap the rewards.
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