Amazing Fact about the Ravens - Page 2

ChiefsCountry · 12-23-2004, 02:40 PM

All but 3 of their first round picks since 1996 have made the Pro Bowl. That is good drafting.

1996 - Jonathan Ogden (Pro Bowl)
1996 - Ray Lewis (Pro Bowl)
1997 - Peter Boulware (Pro Bowl)
1998 - Duane Starks
1999 - Chris McAllister (Pro Bowl)
2000 - Jamal Lewis (Pro Bowl)
2000 - Travis Taylor
2001 - Todd Heap (Pro Bowl)
2002 - Ed Reed (Pro Bowl)
2003 - Terrell Suggs (Pro Bowl)
2003 - Kyle Boller

That is just amazing.

NaptownChief · 12-23-2004, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

Meanwhile, Tony Dungy, the defensive guru, pilots a team that is all offense.

And was completely in place before he got there...Billick getting a free ride on the Ravens D that was already in place and Dungy getting a free ride on the Colts offense that was in place. Billick "offensive guru" hasn't put anything but horrible offenses since he has been there and Dungy while making some minor stides late in this year really hasn't done $hit either.

Those are the jobs I want...Get paid well, do nothing and still get your ass kissed.

BigChiefFan · 12-23-2004, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojo Rising

Boeller was a shi**y pick.

Yea, but they wanted Leftwich.

NaptownChief · 12-23-2004, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

Yep the Ravens Drafts are really good they make every team look like they can't draft.

And Carl Peterson makes all other teams look like they aren't too bad at it.

NaptownChief · 12-23-2004, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Yea, but they wanted Leftwich.

That didn't stop them from throwing two 1st round picks in exchange for Boller however.

NaptownChief · 12-23-2004, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

All but 3 of their first round picks since 1996 have made the Pro Bowl. That is good drafting.

1996 - Jonathan Ogden (Pro Bowl)
1996 - Ray Lewis (Pro Bowl)
1997 - Peter Boulware (Pro Bowl)
1998 - Duane Starks
1999 - Chris McAllister (Pro Bowl)
2000 - Jamal Lewis (Pro Bowl)
2000 - Travis Taylor
2001 - Todd Heap (Pro Bowl)
2002 - Ed Reed (Pro Bowl)
2003 - Terrell Suggs (Pro Bowl)
2003 - Kyle Boller

That is just amazing.

Come to think of it, the only "bad" picks were Boller and Taylor on the offensive side of the ball. That might have more to do with the ineptitude of the offensive "guru" Brian Billick than the players...No WR or QB has looked worth a damn under him in Baltimore.

KevB · 12-23-2004, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojo Rising

Boeller was a shi**y pick.

I don't think that's completely decided yet. He's looked a little better this year. If they had gotten Owens, and Heap would have stayed healthy, we'd have a better idea. Don't get me wrong, he hasn't set the world on fire, but he's still young enough to endure and come away a decent QB. We'll see.

KevB · 12-23-2004, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

If memory serves, 7 of those 11 picks were top-10, which might well have something to do with their draft success, but either way it is impressive.

Very good point. Although, Lewis and Reed were picked in the 20s.

NaptownChief · 12-23-2004, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB

I don't think that's completely decided yet. He's looked a little better this year. If they had gotten Owens, and Heap would have stayed healthy, we'd have a better idea. Don't get me wrong, he hasn't set the world on fire, but he's still young enough to endure and come away a decent QB. We'll see.

I agree...Still have some time before that final chapter is written...3 weeks ago Larry Johnson was the $hittiest 1st round pick in that draft. :d

Mojo Rising · 12-23-2004, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB

I don't think that's completely decided yet. He's looked a little better this year. If they had gotten Owens, and Heap would have stayed healthy, we'd have a better idea. Don't get me wrong, he hasn't set the world on fire, but he's still young enough to endure and come away a decent QB. We'll see.

In their Jr. years, before Tedford and Chow I saw Boller play vs Palmer (Cal vs USC.) It was the worse QB duel I have ever seen in my life.

**alpha_omega** · 12-23-2004, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojo Rising

Boeller was a shi**y pick.

Might have to disagree with you on this one...give him 1 more year.

**Rain Man** · 12-23-2004, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojo Rising

There are a lot of bad picks by the Chiefs. There are also a lot of great pick-ups in free agency. The fact is that we have not won a SB lately. We are also in the top 5 (maybe higher) for number of wins for the last 10 years. That is a lot of happy Sundays. I would like to win a SB but I have also had a lot of fun Sundays and Mondays at Arrowhead. We'll win it again soon. Happy Holidays!

"Lately" being defined as the time since the first moon landing.

Cannibal · 12-23-2004, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB

I don't think that's completely decided yet. He's looked a little better this year. If they had gotten Owens, and Heap would have stayed healthy, we'd have a better idea. Don't get me wrong, he hasn't set the world on fire, but he's still young enough to endure and come away a decent QB. We'll see.

I agree. I don't know about his mental prowess. But the kid has one of the better arms in the league. The year he was drafted they showed highlights of him throwing the ball from his knees at the 50 yard line... out of the fuggin endzone.

whoman69 · 12-23-2004, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojo Rising

Boeller was a shi**y pick.

I knew he was a bust when drafted. You don't go from under 50% in college to an accurate passer in the NFL.

Mr. Laz · 12-23-2004, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

If memory serves, 7 of those 11 picks were top-10, which might well have something to do with their draft success, but either way it is impressive.

but having a top 10 pick doesn't mean anything ...

its much more important to win our last 4 (meaningless) games

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-23-2004, 06:26 PM

The fact that the Chiefs have only had 2 Pro Bowlers drafted in the first round since 1996 overwhelmingly illlustrates the notion that Peterson and the whole crew need to go, asap. That is awful, just awful and is main reason this team hasn't won a playoff game in a decade.

Kyle Boller's still a kid. I'd love to have him as the Chiefs QB if we didn't have Trent Green. Just look how long it took Trent to have a decent season! He bounced around the league for years before finally starting 5 years after he was drafted. Sometime, QB's need a little time. Plus, with the Raven's defense, they can take that time.

Dane
~Waiting for Peterson to leave (it's gonna be a long wait...)

12-23-2004, 02:40 PM
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1361248	Amazing Fact about the Ravens All but 3 of their first round picks since 1996 have made the Pro Bowl. That is good drafting. 1996 - Jonathan Ogden (Pro Bowl) 1996 - Ray Lewis (Pro Bowl) 1997 - Peter Boulware (Pro Bowl) 1998 - Duane Starks 1999 - Chris McAllister (Pro Bowl) 2000 - Jamal Lewis (Pro Bowl) 2000 - Travis Taylor 2001 - Todd Heap (Pro Bowl) 2002 - Ed Reed (Pro Bowl) 2003 - Terrell Suggs (Pro Bowl) 2003 - Kyle Boller That is just amazing.
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12-23-2004, 06:26 PM	#30
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	The fact that the Chiefs have only had 2 Pro Bowlers drafted in the first round since 1996 overwhelmingly illlustrates the notion that Peterson and the whole crew need to go, asap. That is awful, just awful and is main reason this team hasn't won a playoff game in a decade. Kyle Boller's still a kid. I'd love to have him as the Chiefs QB if we didn't have Trent Green. Just look how long it took Trent to have a decent season! He bounced around the league for years before finally starting 5 years after he was drafted. Sometime, QB's need a little time. Plus, with the Raven's defense, they can take that time. Dane ~Waiting for Peterson to leave (it's gonna be a long wait...)
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