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Old 06-22-2005, 06:17 PM   #1
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And that killed us last season because the coaching staff counted on Maz to come back, and he didn't. With Mitchell getting hurt, Beisel was forced to play MLB.

To be honest, Beisel looked better at MLB in TC than Mitchell did.
Agreed.
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:55 PM   #2
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Kawika Mitchell needs to stay healthy in training camp. He hasn't made it through camp once since he got drafted. He always comes up lame with a pulled hamstring that keeps him out 2-3 weeks.

If he can stay healthy, let him have it. When it's all said and done, I think Mike Maslowski will give him a run for his money. Call me crazy...

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Old 06-22-2005, 05:13 PM   #3
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I don't doubt he will be the starter at the beginning of the season as draft pick politics usually trump performance and they desparately would still like to justify the high 2nd rounder they spent on his dizzy and confused self....By mid season I expect he will not be the starter......I expect DJ, Bell and Fuji to be the 3 starters....
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:16 PM   #4
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whatever... may best player win


i just hope the coaching staff truly allows the best player to win.


imo from what i have seen from Mitchell thus far, he would be better served at OLB.
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:19 PM   #5
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whatever... may best player win


i just hope the coaching staff truly allows the best player to win.

That is all I hope for...However every team plays the draft pick/contract size politics and DV is well know for playing age politics...So that is highly unlikely.
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:22 PM   #6
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In the midst of all this draft pick/contract conspiracy talk, let's not forget the possibility, however remote it may seem, that Mitchell really has gotten it. It'd be nice to see it on the field a month from now and I think it would certainly be to our defense's benefit if he has. I don't know that that possibility is any more far-fetched than Scanlon or Grigsby becoming a quality starter, or even maz coming back after that surgery.
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:31 PM   #7
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In the midst of all this draft pick/contract conspiracy talk
i think it's a little unfair to call it "conspiracy talk"


it's pretty common knowledge that teams are generally gonna give the money a bigger chance than not.

higher the draft pick, the more the money invested


more money = bigger chance



don't see a conspiracy
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:40 PM   #8
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Old 06-22-2005, 06:01 PM   #10
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Did anyone else notice in the same interview Gun said he didn't know yet who was going to start at LDT.
That is Sims spot so I wonder if he is thinking about starting Browning over Sims or if he is thinking about Siavii. He talked Siavii up.
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Old 06-22-2005, 06:05 PM   #11
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I find it hard to believe that based upon a few OTA's, without pads, they think Kawika has improved that much. It will be nice if true but I'll only believe it after I see it.
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Old 06-22-2005, 06:09 PM   #12
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I find it hard to believe that based upon a few OTA's, without pads, they think Kawika has improved that much. It will be nice if true but I'll only believe it after I see it.
I think you can get a read on whether he is stating to get better feel for the game.

They won't know if he has started to figured out the "knee bend" part until they put on pads.
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Old 06-22-2005, 06:18 PM   #13
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I find it hard to believe that based upon a few OTA's, without pads, they think Kawika has improved that much. It will be nice if true but I'll only believe it after I see it.
i think speed players like kawika mitchell,Derrick Johnson etc always look better early.

no tackling,no pads etc plays to their strengths


guys like Maz and prolly Bell look better when things get dirty
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Old 06-22-2005, 07:33 PM   #14
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i think speed players like kawika mitchell,Derrick Johnson etc always look better early.

no tackling,no pads etc plays to their strengths


guys like Maz and prolly Bell look better when things get dirty
The biggest comment I've heard when specific 'why' is given to him looking better: he's in place to make plays now, where he's supposed to be because he's (finally) reading plays correctly. He wasn't even close in that regard a year ago, as I recall. I think it's more of a "light coming on upstairs" thing than it is an athletic guy making plays he's always made. We'll see, though, none of it's full speed yet.

And mentioning maz in the same sentence will Bell is kind of weird. Bell is very athletic, not someone who has to overcome physicial deficiencies like mike. I remember some plays when Bell was at his best 2 and 3 years ago, and he could get around the corner in a flash. He's very quick/fast in about a 10-yard range, probably a better initial burst than Johnson, even, he just doesn't have the same top-end speed (but he's not slow), that final gear that Johnson has (not many players do...).

He also looked pretty good on Saturday, along with Fox, Johnson and Mitchell. We had 4 LBs who looked like they could all be all over the field in the fall; I'd never seen anything like that here before. Thinking wistfully of Lew Bush and Marvcus Patton I was not. If that translates into full speed play when the pads are on, it's gonna be a lot of fun to watch. I can't wait to see the preseason.
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I would seriously doubt that after a year and a half out of football, that Maz retains the physical and mental skills to compete. If he is not starter, I doubt he takes a trip back to ST and thus does not make the team. Scanlon is a surety to be on the team at least until the last cut because of his NFLEL exemption. I would doubt Grigsby is put on the practice squad, though it is possible. He will probably be a backup and ST while Scanlon and Mitchell fight it out for the starter spot. Scanlon may be hurt by the wear and tear of the NFLEL season.
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