NFBT: Star Wars: A Look Back... - Page 2

Gaz · 07-01-2005, 08:31 AM

Lucas has laid his epic to rest. So what is the overall verdict?

xoxo~
Gaz
Taking the long view.

ck_IN · 07-01-2005, 03:39 PM

I was never much of a star wars fan to begin with even though I was in the prime demographic when it came out.

I've always prefered Star Trek and still do although it's been getting harder and harder with the last few movies.

patteeu · 07-01-2005, 03:56 PM

My wife, the two kids, and I watched episodes IV, V, VI, I and II in the two weeks preceding our trek to the theater to see episode III. We all had a great time doing it and the kids, in particular, really enjoyed the whole series.

I voted woo-hoo!

Deberg_1990 · 07-01-2005, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaz

While Lucas started out great, he peaked with “Empire,” and it has been a long, slow slide into mediocrity ever since. Taken as a whole, the Star Wars Saga is a disappointment. Despite amazing advances in technology and staggering amounts of money invested in the franchise, the promise of the first two films was lost in those that followed.

Personally Gaz,

The best directing job Lucas ever did was American Graffetti IMO. An absolute classic flick. Lucas was never much of a writer or an actors director after that film. He did however become a great storyteller, Star Wars saga, Indiana Jones saga, Willow, etc......

Frazod · 07-01-2005, 05:29 PM

I voted WOO HOO because there wasn't an option between WOO HOO and Eh.

The first three were WOO HOO.

The second three were Eh.

Zebedee DuBois · 07-01-2005, 05:49 PM

I gave it an Eh....

When the first one came out, I loved it. It was way cool. I hadn't seen anything like it. I drove home from the theatre imagining I was an Xwing pilot blowing up the cars in front of me. I was about 19 years old.

The second one was great as well, and I agree with others that it is the best of the six.

But looking back now, I see them as hokey, the acting superficial. I don't think they hold up to time as well as.....say.... The Indiana Jones movies.

I saw all of the six in the theatre, more as a tribute to the way I felt at age 19, rather than the quality of the film.

DJay23 · 07-01-2005, 07:36 PM

So how do ya'll feel about all six being re-released in 3D? Will you go? What about the constant tampering Lucas has done with the original trilogy? (I read a rumor somewhere, I think on CP, that Lucas will redo or add to all of the lightsaber battles using CG.)

Deberg_1990 · 07-01-2005, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DJay23

So how do ya'll feel about all six being re-released in 3D? Will you go? What about the constant tampering Lucas has done with the original trilogy? (I read a rumor somewhere, I think on CP, that Lucas will redo or add to all of the lightsaber battles using CG.)

Just another "gimmick" for Lucas to milk more money from this cashcow. Im one of the biggest Star Wars fans alive, but i wont be paying any more money for yet another "new" version of these films. Enough already Lucas!

DJay23 · 07-01-2005, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Just another "gimmick" for Lucas to milk more money from this cashcow. Im one of the biggest Star Wars fans alive, but i wont be paying any more money for yet another "new" version of these films. Enough already Lucas!

Kind of how I feel, however...

I don't believe the 3D versions will begin to be released until 2007. This means if he spaces it out enough, I'll probably be stupid enough to pay to see them in the theater again.

**Bowser** · 07-01-2005, 07:51 PM

I went Woo-Hoo. The early trilogy affected my young mind in a way that makes sci-fi a love of mine. The prequels were ok, with the RotS obviously being the best.

If I had my way, Lucas would have directed the CGI/action shots, and Irvin Kershner would have directed the dialogue/actual movie shots.

Deberg_1990 · 07-01-2005, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DJay23

I don't believe the 3D versions will begin to be released until 2007. This means if he spaces it out enough, I'll probably be stupid enough to pay to see them in the theater again.

Not only was Lucas a filmaking pioneer, he has always been a marketing genious.

Ultra Peanut · 07-01-2005, 07:54 PM

I've still never seen a Star Wars movie in its entirety. I've seen parts of ESB ("Holy crap, it's Billy Dee Williams!") and Episode 1, but aside from that, all I know about Star Wars is basically from pop culture and fellow geeks on the intraweb discussing it.

I don't think I've ever seen a Bond movie in its entirety, either. Played the shit out of Goldeneye 007 on the N64, though...

siberian khatru · 07-01-2005, 07:59 PM

The first 2 were so good, and had such an impact on my life ... I sometimes pity kids like gochiefs who are big SW fans, God bless 'em, but they just don't know -- will never know -- what it was like in May 1977 to sit there and see that star destroyer fill the screen for the first time. To be 11 years old, and the last sci-fi movie you saw was "Logan's Run," and all of sudden comes "Star Wars" ...

And then "Empire," which was a complete movie, laying out so much plot and character insight into the vast backstory.

It's a crime that Lucas forgot where he came from, ignored/forgot what made the originals so good.

I'm close to saying WOO-WOO for the first 2, they were that good and tower over the rest. But the subsequent 4 really threaten to drag the whole franchise down to an "eh."

DJay23 · 07-01-2005, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Not only was Lucas a filmaking pioneer, he has always been a marketing genious.

The smartest things he ever did were to secure sequel and merchandising rights during the making of the original. The rest is history.

Logical · 07-01-2005, 08:12 PM

Definitely a Woo hoo. Except for the deplorable Phantom Menace I have found them all eminantly entertaining, and even the Phantom Menace was worth the price of 1 ticket (though barely).

I would rate the first three much higher than the last three. Lucas really does not belong in the directors chair because I don't believe he really knows good acting from crap acting. Man is a special effects and techno creative genius however.

Deberg_1990 · 07-01-2005, 08:17 PM

Im really curious what the next phase of Lucas's career will hold for him? He has said that he wants to go back to making small, independent personal films like he did before Star Wars. I think deep down, hes probably glad to finally get the Star Wars monkey off his back.

View Poll Results: What to you think of the Star Wars Saga?
WOO HOO!!!	23	54.76%
Eh…	15	35.71%
Yuck.	1	2.38%
Bite me Gaz, I am waiting for Episode 7.	3	7.14%
Voters: 42. You may not vote on this poll

07-01-2005, 08:31 AM
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07-01-2005, 03:39 PM	#16
ck_IN Feels so good. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	I was never much of a star wars fan to begin with even though I was in the prime demographic when it came out. I've always prefered Star Trek and still do although it's been getting harder and harder with the last few movies. __________________ As sweet as Tupelo Honey
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07-01-2005, 03:56 PM	#17
patteeu The 23rd Pillar Join Date: Sep 2002 Casino cash: $10019237	My wife, the two kids, and I watched episodes IV, V, VI, I and II in the two weeks preceding our trek to the theater to see episode III. We all had a great time doing it and the kids, in particular, really enjoyed the whole series. I voted woo-hoo! __________________ “Boy, you all want power. God, I hope you never get it.” - Lindsay Graham
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07-01-2005, 05:29 PM	#19
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-726615	I voted WOO HOO because there wasn't an option between WOO HOO and Eh. The first three were WOO HOO. The second three were Eh.
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07-01-2005, 05:49 PM	#20
Zebedee DuBois Veteran Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: floating in a tin can Casino cash: $-1794801	I gave it an Eh.... When the first one came out, I loved it. It was way cool. I hadn't seen anything like it. I drove home from the theatre imagining I was an Xwing pilot blowing up the cars in front of me. I was about 19 years old. The second one was great as well, and I agree with others that it is the best of the six. But looking back now, I see them as hokey, the acting superficial. I don't think they hold up to time as well as.....say.... The Indiana Jones movies. I saw all of the six in the theatre, more as a tribute to the way I felt at age 19, rather than the quality of the film. __________________ What am I even doing here?
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07-01-2005, 07:36 PM	#21
DJay23 Rock Chalk Jayhawk Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: PA Casino cash: $-496683	So how do ya'll feel about all six being re-released in 3D? Will you go? What about the constant tampering Lucas has done with the original trilogy? (I read a rumor somewhere, I think on CP, that Lucas will redo or add to all of the lightsaber battles using CG.) __________________ "True bliss is not something you search for, true bliss is already living inside us all, and sometimes it takes a roomfull of others to lead us to the mirror of your soul." - CosmicPal (10-3-03)
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07-01-2005, 07:51 PM	#24
Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $-158384	I went Woo-Hoo. The early trilogy affected my young mind in a way that makes sci-fi a love of mine. The prequels were ok, with the RotS obviously being the best. If I had my way, Lucas would have directed the CGI/action shots, and Irvin Kershner would have directed the dialogue/actual movie shots.
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07-01-2005, 07:54 PM	#26
Ultra Peanut v^V^v^V^v^V^ Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Holland* Casino cash: $10005177	I've still never seen a Star Wars movie in its entirety. I've seen parts of ESB ("Holy crap, it's Billy Dee Williams!") and Episode 1, but aside from that, all I know about Star Wars is basically from pop culture and fellow geeks on the intraweb discussing it. I don't think I've ever seen a Bond movie in its entirety, either. Played the shit out of Goldeneye 007 on the N64, though... __________________
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07-01-2005, 07:59 PM	#27
siberian khatru 21st Century Schizoid Fan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Gates of Delirium Casino cash: $-1305050	The first 2 were so good, and had such an impact on my life ... I sometimes pity kids like gochiefs who are big SW fans, God bless 'em, but they just don't know -- will never know -- what it was like in May 1977 to sit there and see that star destroyer fill the screen for the first time. To be 11 years old, and the last sci-fi movie you saw was "Logan's Run," and all of sudden comes "Star Wars" ... And then "Empire," which was a complete movie, laying out so much plot and character insight into the vast backstory. It's a crime that Lucas forgot where he came from, ignored/forgot what made the originals so good. I'm close to saying WOO-WOO for the first 2, they were that good and tower over the rest. But the subsequent 4 really threaten to drag the whole franchise down to an "eh."
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07-01-2005, 08:12 PM	#29
Logical Screw U if U can't take a joke Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Definitely a Woo hoo. Except for the deplorable Phantom Menace I have found them all eminantly entertaining, and even the Phantom Menace was worth the price of 1 ticket (though barely). I would rate the first three much higher than the last three. Lucas really does not belong in the directors chair because I don't believe he really knows good acting from crap acting. Man is a special effects and techno creative genius however.
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07-01-2005, 08:17 PM	#30
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $164454	Im really curious what the next phase of Lucas's career will hold for him? He has said that he wants to go back to making small, independent personal films like he did before Star Wars. I think deep down, hes probably glad to finally get the Star Wars monkey off his back. __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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