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Old 01-12-2006, 10:46 AM  
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Chiefs still after marinelli?

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Edwards hinted Wednesday that he may be interested in Marinelli, a Tampa Bay assistant who is interviewing for the Detroit Lions’ head-coaching job. But it won’t affect the status of Cunningham, who was hired by Dick Vermeil in 2004 to turn around a defense that ranked near the bottom of the league.
so let me try and get a feel of the situation...


marinelli is still interviewing for head coaching positions so we can't really try and hire him yet and Gun was about to hit the market for other job chances.

So rather than losing both .... Edwards got the ok to hire both


Gunther as DC ... Marinelli as asst. HC/Defensive Coord


so on defense we'll have

Edward - a defensive HC
Marinelli - a defensive asst HC
Gunther - DC/foot shuffling porter



i can live with that ... as long as we get marinelli to keep a leash on Gun.

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Old 01-12-2006, 11:10 AM   #16
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Gunther as DC ... Marinelli as asst. HC/Defensive specialist


so on defense we'll have

Edward - a defensive HC
Marinelli - a defensive asst HC
Gunther - DC/foot shuffling porter



i can live with that ... as long as we get marinelli to keep a leash on Gun.

I concur, this would work with and currently with the coaching cluster fuck that KC has at the DC department .
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Old 01-12-2006, 11:11 AM   #17
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Bob Stoops has successfully used a co-defensive corrdinator role in Oklahoma for several years now.

Why wouldn't Herm keep Gun as the DC right now, and if/when his Tampa buddy is available, make him co-DC and Asst HC.
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Old 01-12-2006, 11:12 AM   #18
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"foot shuffling porter"


I forgot about that one.
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Old 01-12-2006, 11:13 AM   #19
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Arguing about the heirarchy of titles aside, I'd love to have Marinelli here.

Gunther as the rah-rah guy on the sidelines; Marinelli as the brains in the booth. That's a role Gunther could excel in.
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Old 01-12-2006, 11:14 AM   #20
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Not to mention guys with head coaching qualifications aften get this title tacked onto their main job title so they can shop their head coaching quals later. I believe Al Saunders was receivers coach and assistant head coach back when Gunther took the HC job.

That's why a receivers coach could feel miffed about getting passed over by a Defensive Coordinator.
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Old 01-12-2006, 11:17 AM   #21
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It could also be we will have co-defensive coordinators like the Rams did a few years ago.

This would be fine IMO
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Old 01-12-2006, 11:18 AM   #22
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Why wouldn't Herm keep Gun as the DC right now, and if/when his Tampa buddy is available, make him co-DC and Asst HC.
damnit


isn't that what i just said?!!?


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So rather than losing both .... Edwards got the ok to hire both

Gunther as DC ... Marinelli as asst. HC/Defensive specialist


Marinelli - a defensive asst HC
Gunther - DC/foot shuffling porter
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Old 01-12-2006, 11:21 AM   #23
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It could also be we will have co-defensive coordinators like the Rams did a few years ago.

This would be fine IMO
Yep. Make Gunther the hands-on guy that teaches Marinelli's schemes to the players, and yells at them on the sideline during games.
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Old 01-12-2006, 11:23 AM   #24
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ehh?!


... maybe because assistant head coach is a higher position than Defensive coordinator.
Actually it is not. It is more of a formality title (but does lead to you being temp HC if the HC ends up ill or out for some other reason). Marinelli is Asst Head Coach/Def Line Coach right now in Tampa Bay and I guarantee he is not over Monte Kiffin
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Old 01-12-2006, 11:26 AM   #25
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I watched them interview H. Edwards as he was getting into this car yesterday. I don't recall him saying gunther is being retained as DC. I just heard him say, Gunther is not leaving.
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Old 01-12-2006, 11:27 AM   #26
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damnit


isn't that what i just said?!!?
damnit
Not quite, I'm suggesting Co Defensive Coordinator in addition to Asst HC. Maybe that's what you meant, but that's not what I saw you say.
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Yep. Make Gunther the hands-on guy that teaches Marinelli's schemes to the players, and yells at them on the sideline during games.
Gun is the players favorite, but is in inept in game planning and playcalling which could quite feasable at a coaching standpoint. If Gun really does fuck up again Marinelli would slide in, and have full control of the D.
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Old 01-12-2006, 11:40 AM   #28
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How about Marinelli as D-Line Coach, and Assistant HC?
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Old 01-12-2006, 11:41 AM   #29
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Actually it is not. It is more of a formality title (but does lead to you being temp HC if the HC ends up ill or out for some other reason). Marinelli is Asst Head Coach/Def Line Coach right now in Tampa Bay and I guarantee he is not over Monte Kiffin
picky bastiges...


Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Coordinator > Defensive Coordinator


the very action of adding Assistant head coach TO defensive coordinator makes it higher.


and yes, if you had the assistant head coach to the title of Piss Boy it doesn't make it higher than Defensive coordinator.




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Old 01-12-2006, 11:41 AM   #30
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... maybe because assistant head coach is a higher position than Defensive coordinator.
Should have known someone would have already pointed that out.
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