Computers Simplex3's SuSE Linux Converts Thread - Page 2

Simplex3 · 08:40 AM

Looking for some help moving to Linux? Drop the question here and we'll see what I can do. Some topics I expect we'll cover:

1. Installation
2. What apps do what?
3. My (hardware) isn't working (right)
4. Multi-media issues

Remember, if you need help sooner rather than later:

Kubuntu users:
1. Launch Konversation from the "Internet" menu.
2. Connect to #kubuntu by double clicking on it.
3. Ask away.

Suse users:
1. Install X-Chat
2. Connect to the Freenode network
3. Join the #suse channel
4. Ask away. There are usually about 280 helpful souls in there.

I'll also try to keep this up as a sort of FAQ. Non-question-specific posts will have a large, bold heading (see post #2).

*Note: Don't forget you can try out Linux without installing anything on your PC at all. Download one of the LiveCD versions, burn it to a disc, then reboot the PC with the LiveCD in the drive and your computer will load Linux and your hard disk will not be changed. You can get them at either of these links:
http://www.kubuntu.com/
http://www.novell.com/products/susel...rors_isos.html
http://www.mepis.org/
http://www.knoppix.org/

*Note: If I start asking you to run a bunch of things from a command prompt it isn't because that's the only way to do it, it's because that's the only way I can "control" what is happening on your end.

irishjayhawk · 03-25-2006, 08:47 PM

Just curious, simplex, have you tried ubuntu?

Simplex3 · 03-25-2006, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by irishjayhawk

Just curious, simplex, have you tried ubuntu?

Yes. Great hardware support but here are the things I didn't like about it:

1. Lack of a GUI installer. Sure, a pro doesn't need it but we're trying to get noobs converted.
2. Their weird root login configuration. It's kind of a pain in the butt.
3. Their packages aren't as fresh as other distros.
4. I prefer to introduce people to Linux using KDE and Kubuntu had/has issues.
5. Nearly all purchase apps are tested on Red Hat and SuSE. Other distros are hit and miss.
6. Their naming convention pisses me off. Breezy Badger? WTF? Does that come before or after Rabid Dolphin and Constipated Squirrel? Stick to the numbers, folks.
7. They've changed long-established names in their effort to Africanize their community. Or some other reason. Whatever it is, I don't want to have to re-learn terms just so I can use a distro.

irishjayhawk · 03-25-2006, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplex3

Yes. Great hardware support but here are the things I didn't like about it:

1. Lack of a GUI installer. Sure, a pro doesn't need it but we're trying to get noobs converted.
2. Their weird root login configuration. It's kind of a pain in the butt.
3. Their packages aren't as fresh as other distros.
4. I prefer to introduce people to Linux using KDE and Kubuntu had/has issues.
5. Nearly all purchase apps are tested on Red Hat and SuSE. Other distros are hit and miss.
6. Their naming convention pisses me off. Breezy Badger? WTF? Does that come before or after Rabid Dolphin and Constipated Squirrel? Stick to the numbers, folks.
7. They've changed long-established names in their effort to Africanize their community. Or some other reason. Whatever it is, I don't want to have to re-learn terms just so I can use a distro.

Well, I have it downloaded and ready for burning to make a live cd. Problem is, I'm wondering whether I'll be lost.

I take it you'd recommend suse, for "n00bs" or beginners?

I've also heard mandravia (or mandrake linux, whatever it's called these days) is a very good beginners' distro.

What I'm asking is: Do you think Suse is the best distro to start out with?

Simplex3 · 03-25-2006, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irishjayhawk

Well, I have it downloaded and ready for burning to make a live cd. Problem is, I'm wondering whether I'll be lost.

I take it you'd recommend suse, for "n00bs" or beginners?

I've also heard mandravia (or mandrake linux, whatever it's called these days) is a very good beginners' distro.

What I'm asking is: Do you think Suse is the best distro to start out with?

Yes, I believe SuSE is the best noob Linux and it grows with you very nicely. I was a Mandrake guy years ago but it got weird during their transition.

|Zach| · 03-25-2006, 11:07 PM

Ok, this ISO burning thing...I don't unpack the file...I just tell NERO to burn the image?

Simplex3 · 03-25-2006, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZachKC

Ok, this ISO burning thing...I don't unpack the file...I just tell NERO to burn the image?

Correct. Then after they're all burned you will drop in the first CD and reboot. The computer will boot from CD (assuming that's how your BIOS boot order is set up) and you're off and running.

Simplex3 · 03-25-2006, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morphius

Simplex - What are some of the Apps you recommend using for media listening/watching in Linux?

Thanks!

For music Amarok can't be beat:

http://amarok.kde.org/

For videos/dvds you can go with either Kaffeine or MPlayer:

http://kaffeine.sourceforge.net/
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/news.html

**007** · 03-25-2006, 11:50 PM

Is there a way to combine the 5 cds into one dvd while in windows? The download seems to be designed only to work on the linux platform./

Simplex3 · 03-25-2006, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchiefsguru

Is there a way to combine the 5 cds into one dvd while in windows? The download seems to be designed only to work on the linux platform./

There is a DVD ISO download if you prefer that to CDs. The download (any of them) very simply gives you the format you prefer in ISO files, then you burn them. It's very platform-agnostic.

**007** · 03-25-2006, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplex3

There is a DVD ISO download if you prefer that to CDs. The download (any of them) very simply gives you the format you prefer in ISO files, then you burn them. It's very platform-agnostic.

Hmmm, must have missed the DVD ISO file sources. All I found was the CD files to download. Almost done now anyway so I will just burn the 5 CDs.

|Zach| · 03-26-2006, 12:25 AM

Well I am posting this from my new linux install...SImplex is going to kill me though I when with ubuntu bc the install looked more straight forward...I am going to spend some time to poke around.

**007** · 03-26-2006, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZachKC

Well I am posting this from my new linux install...SImplex is going to kill me though I when with ubuntu bc the install looked more straight forward...I am going to spend some time to poke around.

OMG What were you thinking Zach.

Simplex3 · 03-26-2006, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZachKC

Well I am posting this from my new linux install...SImplex is going to kill me though I when with ubuntu bc the install looked more straight forward...I am going to spend some time to poke around.

First, congrats. Not nearly as bad as people made it out to be, huh?

Second, Ubuntu is a fine distro. They have a large support community just like SuSE. Just wasn't my cup of tea. Of course that's what open source is all about, choice.

|Zach| · 03-26-2006, 12:33 AM

So ya...first impression is that this is impressive in and of itself.

Second impression is that I am totally freaking out because I am pretty sure everything I had on my computer before is gone.

How bad is it if i reboot and the linux thing boots automatically. How do i switch back to windows...

**007** · 03-26-2006, 12:33 AM

Just about done. I am going to run Live to see what it looks like then I will probably install SUSE. Wish me luck. Be back soon.

03-25-2006, 01:26 AM
Simplex3 MVP Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $10004900	Simplex3's SuSE Linux Converts Thread Looking for some help moving to Linux? Drop the question here and we'll see what I can do. Some topics I expect we'll cover: 1. Installation 2. What apps do what? 3. My (hardware) isn't working (right) 4. Multi-media issues Remember, if you need help sooner rather than later: Kubuntu users: 1. Launch Konversation from the "Internet" menu. 2. Connect to #kubuntu by double clicking on it. 3. Ask away. Suse users: 1. Install X-Chat 2. Connect to the Freenode network 3. Join the #suse channel 4. Ask away. There are usually about 280 helpful souls in there. I'll also try to keep this up as a sort of FAQ. Non-question-specific posts will have a large, bold heading (see post #2). Note: Don't forget you can try out Linux without installing anything on your PC at all. Download one of the LiveCD versions, burn it to a disc, then reboot the PC with the LiveCD in the drive and your computer will load Linux and your hard disk will not be changed. You can get them at either of these links: http://www.kubuntu.com/ http://www.novell.com/products/susel...rors_isos.html http://www.mepis.org/ http://www.knoppix.org/ Note: If I start asking you to run a bunch of things from a command prompt it isn't because that's the only way to do it, it's because that's the only way I can "control" what is happening on your end. Last edited by Simplex3; 01-24-2007 at 08:40 AM..
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03-26-2006, 12:33 AM	#29
\|Zach\| For The Glory Of The City Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $3076768	So ya...first impression is that this is impressive in and of itself. Second impression is that I am totally freaking out because I am pretty sure everything I had on my computer before is gone. How bad is it if i reboot and the linux thing boots automatically. How do i switch back to windows...
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