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Actually, Clinton did not pardon Reynolds. He commuted his sentence on Federal corruption charges. Reynolds had already served his time on the sex charges, which was a matter for the state courts: he had a 5-year sentence without the possibility of probation and served about half of it, getting the rest of it off for good behavior:
From [url]http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/reyns22.html[/url] : Reynolds resigned from Congress in 1995 after being convicted in state court of having sex with a 16-year-old campaign worker. He was convicted in 1997 on federal corruption charges. He had more than two years to serve on that conviction when he learned Saturday that President Clinton had commuted his sentence. [Edited by DanT on 01-22-2001 at 12:57 PM] |
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Damn those troublesome facts!
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Sorry
I misread the section of the article on pardons. Didn't mean to start a false rumor.
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Oh yeah - pardon our misconstual of the "facts", Brock. Reynolds served his time for being a child molester but he got off of the corruption charges. That sends a message I want our country to hear loud & clear. Swindle the government out of funds & molest a child but as long as you have someone with enough power in your court, your sentence will be commuted. I don't get it. Because somebody got their facts mixed up, Willy was justified in his actions, right? What some of you people will do to defend Willy is totally beyond me. It's as though he's kin to you or something.
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KPhobia,
they have to defend him because if they don't than they look bad for voting for the dirt bag. To much pride to admit they made a mistake and learn from it. Pride goes before the fall.
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Actually, Marc Rich bothers me more than most of the other pardons...
He stole millions from Americans and fled to Switzerland. He bought oil from Iran during embargos. He sold arms to Israel as an individual. ANd has NEVER Spent a day in court, let alone prison. Why was he pardonned? Because his wife contributed to both the Presidential campaigns and the senatorial run in NY by Himmary. The man is about as close as you can get to being an American Terrorist and he is now set for life. [Edited by KCWolfman on 01-22-2001 at 08:27 PM] |
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Oh, I forgot to mention he also stole military secrets from the Pentagon and sold them to the Israelis as well.
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Wolfman,
I thought that Pollard did [i]not[/i] get a pardon. Did I hear wrong?
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Hader - You are right, I meant Rich...
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OK, just checking.
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KPhobia and raider"hader": I'm not defending anybody, nor did I vote for Clinton, so you can both kiss my @ss. Republican Presidents pardon criminals too, or are you too stupid to look it up in a history book?
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Touche' Brock. Show me a conservative president pardoning a man guilty of treason.
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Conservative or Republican?
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Brock - I agree, some pardons are unpardonnable, by both sides.. However, no one as wrong as Rich has ever been pardonned in my estimation (even Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford were not selling secrets to other countries).
Clinton has rolled in the dirt by pardonning a rapist, a drug dealing brother, and a treasonous bastard. All because of money contributed to his and his wife's campaigns and being related to the right person. Nothing can remove that taint from him. I find it very odd that McDougal who never spoke a ill word of Clinton gets pardonned but a man like Hubbell who has hinted he will work a deal for his freedom is looked over. |
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You guys better hope that W is as perfect as you expected Clinton to be while in office. I'm not saying that W will have as many personal flaws as Bill, but he'll f*** up a few things for sure.
Has he ever been a part of something in the real world that hasn't failed, requiring his daddy to bail him out? Other than the Texas Rangers when he was a minority owner, basically just for the name. Seriously, it's kinda comical that this guy is our new President. At least he is surrounding himself with smart people so far... he needs all the help he can get.
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