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Old 01-27-2007, 01:54 PM  
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A Public Service Announcement for Those Who Argue With "Believer"
Please notice his user name is not "Thinker".


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Old 01-27-2007, 03:00 PM   #16
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I just dont believe that online ministering can work, people cant see you as a person or hear the sincerity of your voice. Its a cold, sterile environment where its impossible to gauge emotion or the essence of a person.

I myself have no problem with Believer, if i dont want to read his thread or anybody else's its a VERY simple matter of not reading them, i dont have to question his sincerity or call him names.

I. simply. move. on.
yeah, i find that hard to do. it's like a train wreck...I just can't look away.
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Old 01-27-2007, 03:01 PM   #17
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I just dont believe that online ministering can work, people cant see you as a person or hear the sincerity of your voice. Its a cold, sterile environment where its impossible to gauge emotion or the essence of a person.
I agree and disagree. I think the key is to have a relationship with the people. I imagine there are people that chat online all the time and feel they have a true friendship or at least a relationship. I know that I feel fairly friendly with some of the people here at the Planet. In the past, when I was online all the time in college, much of my social life consisted of online friends (I gamed a lot). I think those types of online relationships might lead to witnessing.

I agree with you that this format, and specifically the way Believer goes about it, isn't productive. No one has any sort of relationship with Believer here. No one knows jack about him. He just comes here and spams, alternately, his love of Huard or Jesus. He didn't cultivate relationships and let people get to know him first, he just barged in and started "witnessing."
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Old 01-27-2007, 03:03 PM   #18
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Old 01-27-2007, 03:06 PM   #19
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He didn't cultivate relationships and let people get to know him first, he just barged in and started "witnessing."
You make a very good point here. Sometimes overzealousness can turn people off before they actually get a chance to know you.
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Old 01-27-2007, 03:21 PM   #20
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I agree with you that this format, and specifically the way Believer goes about it, isn't productive. No one has any sort of relationship with Believer here. No one knows jack about him. He just comes here and spams, alternately, his love of Huard or Jesus. He didn't cultivate relationships and let people get to know him first, he just barged in and started "witnessing."
Nailed it.
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Old 01-27-2007, 04:38 PM   #21
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Wasn't it your father who was missing for a while on a mission trip a year or two ago?
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Old 01-27-2007, 04:39 PM   #22
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Yes it was. Last year.
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Old 01-27-2007, 04:41 PM   #23
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I know the guy means well. I believe he is misguided. We're going through lessons at my church how to witness without putting people off like he does. Hopefully I'll be able to share some of my newly gained knowledge at its conclusion.
this is the church where the Pastor tells jokes about Jesus?

sorry, dont care to learn anything from this place of "worship"
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Old 01-27-2007, 04:43 PM   #24
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this is the church where the Pastor tells jokes about Jesus?

sorry, dont care to learn anything from this place of "worship"
Wow. You're becoming increasingly judgemental.

I see your truuuuueeeee colooooors shining through...
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Old 01-27-2007, 04:43 PM   #25
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I heard this joke there.

What did Jesus say when he was up on the cross?

"This was one Hell of a way to spend my Easter vacation."
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Old 01-27-2007, 04:44 PM   #26
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why is it necessary for everyone to believe that to be a Christian, one needs to have some "conversion" experience? It's always to some folks about being "saved", when in essence, isn't being "saved" more about learning to live in love and grace? Seriously, sometimes being a Christian just doesn't mean I have to say, "I believe Jesus is my savior", but more about "I'm thinking this love thing is way better than this hate thing and it seems JC did a heck of a job doing that, so maybe I'll get my cues for living from him."

it might be because the Bible says we do.

its great to be obediant to His commandments and walk as He did, but its hollow without following the most important one, to believe and trust and put your faith in Him.
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Time the f**k out. There will be not deep thought or discussion in MY thread.

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I find Believer's approach about as bad as those of the condescending Atheist.
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I find Believer's approach about as bad as those of the condescending Atheist.

I'm becoming increasingly convinced he's an agent provacateur.
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Old 01-27-2007, 04:49 PM   #30
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Wow. You're becoming increasingly judgemental.

I see your truuuuueeeee colooooors shining through...
oh no, the worst word in America!

Sin all you want. But dont be, dare I say it, "Judgemental"

Phobia is a big boy. He is "Judgemental" about my theology, so when he reveals thats his Pastor has no problem with humor at the Lords expense, then it puts into question the credibility of any "teachings" that church has to offer me.
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