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C-Mac · 02-14-2007, 07:16 AM

GRETZ: Thanks Chargers!
Feb 14, 2007, 5:35:52 AM by Bob Gretz - FAQ

On this day that celebrates love, Chiefs fans everywhere should send a nice note of thanks, appreciation and devotion to one Dean Spanos, the man who runs the San Diego Chargers.

Spanos made the Chiefs job in the AFC West just a little bit easier in 2007 by firing Marty Schottenheimer as his head coach late Monday night. The move was a surprise, coming just weeks after Spanos announced that Schottenheimer would return for the next season, the final year of Marty’s contract with the Bolts.

One of the few ways that the Chargers could be brought back to rest of the pack in the AFC West after their 14-2 season was injury or implosion from within. Injury is still possible. The implosion happened with the firing of Schottenheimer.

Spanos is not a bumbler and fumbler, but he sure comes out looking like one with this move, especially the timing of the decision. That he picked his general manager A.J. Smith over Marty and came as no surprise to anyone in the league, including Schottenheimer. Smith and Schottenheimer had gotten into a personal situation where they did not communicate directly. The GM didn’t like some of the decisions by the head coach. The head coach felt the same way about the GM’s meddlesome nature into areas that are traditionally the province of the head coach.

OK, two guys don’t get along, then change the equation. After losing to the Patriots in the playoffs, Spanos had that chance to do that. Then, either defensive coordinator Wade Phillips or offensive coordinator Cam Cameron would have been promoted to the head coaching position. Instead, those guys are now head coaches elsewhere in the NFL, Schottenheimer is gone and the Chargers are now on a search to find their next leader and his two coordinators.

Let’s review the leadership that Schottenheimer brought to the Chargers, once one of the NFL’s saddest franchises:

San Diego in five years under Schottenheimer (2002-06) had a 47-35, a winning percentage of .573. That includes two division titles.
The Chargers in the previous five years under three head coaches (1997-2001) were 23-57, a winning percentage of .288. In four of those five seasons they finished last in the AFC West.
Spanos said the decision to fire Schottenheimer was because “we have a dysfunctional situation here. Today I am resolving that situation once and for all.”

Not quite. All he did was fire the head coach, as if Schottenheimer was the whole problem. He may wake up a year from now and find out that his general manager provided the dysfunction in his building. Spanos said he changed his mind after Schottenheimer and Smith clashed over the rebuilding of the Chargers coaching staff which lost four assistants to new jobs, two becoming head coaches and two others becoming coordinators, including former Chiefs linebacker Greg Manusky, now the new defensive coordinator in San Francisco.

Rather than listening only to the words his GM was whispering in his ear, Spanos should have taken a look around the NFL. If anybody knows how to hire top-notch coaches it is Marty Schottenheimer. There’s Tony Dungy, holding the Vince Lombardi Trophy: a former Marty assistant. The guy holding it last year was Bill Cowher, a Schottenheimer protégé. One of the two teams that beat the Chargers this past year was directed by another former Marty assistant, the Chiefs’ Herm Edwards. Mike McCarthy did a fine job in his first year as head coach in Green Bay. Yes, another former Marty assistant. Up in New York, they were raving about the abilities that young Brian Schottenheimer brought to the Jets as offensive coordinator, the connection there being obvious. The new offensive coordinator of the Steelers is Bruce Arians. Marty gave him his first NFL coaching job with the Chiefs back in 1989. He’s been in the league ever since and will now direct the development of the Pittsburgh offense and quarterback Ben Roethlisberger. There are others, including a host of former players like Manusky, who are just getting their feet wet in coaching.

Despite the defections from his Chargers staff, Schottenheimer would have put together a very good coaching staff and with its talent, San Diego would have been a contender again.

And maybe they will anyway. But now we must wait and see who Smith pulls out of the coaching box. All those Marty bashers will point to his poor post-season record and say this move is no big deal. They would be wrong. Schottenheimer is one of the best coaches to ever work in the NFL. Any Chiefs fan that watched the team during the 1990s knows what he was able to do. Schottenheimer and Carl Peterson turned around the entire franchise.

He did the same in San Diego.

So Chiefs fans, send some flowers, candy or at least a thank you card to San Diego and the men who run the franchise out there.

They just brought the Chargers back to earth.

C-Mac · 02-14-2007, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by morphius

Some owners want a championship more then they are worried about filling seats. There were not many blackouts this year.

Yes like Daniel Snyder of the Skins but I guess I'm thinking of teams like the Cardinals in which the fans would love to at least enjoy a couple of winning seasons.

FringeNC · 02-14-2007, 08:59 AM

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If anybody knows how to hire top-notch coaches it is Marty Schottenheimer.

Like Brother Kurt and Jimmy Raye?

**morphius** · 02-14-2007, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by C-Mac

Yes like Daniel Snyder of the Skins but I guess I'm thinking of teams like the Cardinals in which the fans would love to at least enjoy a couple of winning seasons.

Like I said, there were only couple of times games didn't sell out this year. Even Oakland's blackout number was very low. One must remember, football is now "the sport", so selling it isn't to hard.

Otter · 02-14-2007, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by C-Mac

Just dont loose sight of the fact that 99.9% of all NFL coaches havent even earned the opportunity to play in 18 playoff games.

You're absolutely correct and in retrospect the Marty years were pretty damn exciting and fun time to be a Chiefs Fan. My hat's off to Marty.

Wouldn't want him coaching the Chiefs again though.

Pushead2 · 02-14-2007, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter

Wouldn't want him coaching the Chiefs again though.

How bout as a Coordinator?

GoHuge · 02-14-2007, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Pushead2

How bout as a Coordinator?

Way too much ego for that.

Otter · 02-14-2007, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pushead2

How bout as a Coordinator?

I wouldn't want to see it happen just because I'm a fan of new blood and new schemes. Plus he's been a head coach too long and probably wouldn't want to be demoted to a coordinator.

If I had to guess he's probably going to retire.

Redrum_69 · 02-14-2007, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter

Must I relate everything to sex?

Your mom is like an otter...her fur is always wet from all the clam diving, sought after by trappers her beaver-like form is a sight to behold, and when you catch her make sure to mount her so she'll remain a conversation centerpiece for years to come.

Otter · 02-14-2007, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Redrum_69

Your mom is like an otter...her fur is always wet from all the clam diving, sought after by trappers her beaver-like form is a sight to behold, and when you catch her make sure to mount her so she'll remain a conversation centerpiece for years to come.

**HemiEd** · 02-14-2007, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter

You're absolutely correct and in retrospect the Marty years were pretty damn exciting and fun time to be a Chiefs Fan. My hat's off to Marty.

Wouldn't want him coaching the Chiefs again though.

I would take him over Herm in a heartbeat.

Redrum_69 · 02-14-2007, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

I would take him over Herm in a heartbeat.

Oh yeah...that would be perfect.

We need another implosion in the playoffs

Otter · 02-14-2007, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

I would take him over Herm in a heartbeat.

I'll give Herm another year to make in interpretation on where he stands in my meaningless opinion with the Chiefs. One thing is for certain; he needs to stop letting Gunther coach his press conference speeches.

**morphius** · 02-14-2007, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

I would take him over Herm in a heartbeat.

Well, except Herm actually beat Marty in the playoff's last time they met...

**jAZ** · 02-14-2007, 10:50 AM

Here's the link for the article...

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2007/02...anks_chargers/

I can't believe the Chiefs published an article calling out the San Diego Chargers like that. Seems rather like a bad idea to start opining about your opponents failures.

FringeNC · 02-14-2007, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

I would take him over Herm in a heartbeat.

I'd take Anna Nicole Smith's cadaver over Herm.

02-14-2007, 07:16 AM
C-Mac Lurker Extraordinaire Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wally World Casino cash: $-936301	GRETZ: Thanks Chargers! GRETZ: Thanks Chargers! Feb 14, 2007, 5:35:52 AM by Bob Gretz - FAQ On this day that celebrates love, Chiefs fans everywhere should send a nice note of thanks, appreciation and devotion to one Dean Spanos, the man who runs the San Diego Chargers. Spanos made the Chiefs job in the AFC West just a little bit easier in 2007 by firing Marty Schottenheimer as his head coach late Monday night. The move was a surprise, coming just weeks after Spanos announced that Schottenheimer would return for the next season, the final year of Marty’s contract with the Bolts. One of the few ways that the Chargers could be brought back to rest of the pack in the AFC West after their 14-2 season was injury or implosion from within. Injury is still possible. The implosion happened with the firing of Schottenheimer. Spanos is not a bumbler and fumbler, but he sure comes out looking like one with this move, especially the timing of the decision. That he picked his general manager A.J. Smith over Marty and came as no surprise to anyone in the league, including Schottenheimer. Smith and Schottenheimer had gotten into a personal situation where they did not communicate directly. The GM didn’t like some of the decisions by the head coach. The head coach felt the same way about the GM’s meddlesome nature into areas that are traditionally the province of the head coach. OK, two guys don’t get along, then change the equation. After losing to the Patriots in the playoffs, Spanos had that chance to do that. Then, either defensive coordinator Wade Phillips or offensive coordinator Cam Cameron would have been promoted to the head coaching position. Instead, those guys are now head coaches elsewhere in the NFL, Schottenheimer is gone and the Chargers are now on a search to find their next leader and his two coordinators. Let’s review the leadership that Schottenheimer brought to the Chargers, once one of the NFL’s saddest franchises: San Diego in five years under Schottenheimer (2002-06) had a 47-35, a winning percentage of .573. That includes two division titles. The Chargers in the previous five years under three head coaches (1997-2001) were 23-57, a winning percentage of .288. In four of those five seasons they finished last in the AFC West. Spanos said the decision to fire Schottenheimer was because “we have a dysfunctional situation here. Today I am resolving that situation once and for all.” Not quite. All he did was fire the head coach, as if Schottenheimer was the whole problem. He may wake up a year from now and find out that his general manager provided the dysfunction in his building. Spanos said he changed his mind after Schottenheimer and Smith clashed over the rebuilding of the Chargers coaching staff which lost four assistants to new jobs, two becoming head coaches and two others becoming coordinators, including former Chiefs linebacker Greg Manusky, now the new defensive coordinator in San Francisco. Rather than listening only to the words his GM was whispering in his ear, Spanos should have taken a look around the NFL. If anybody knows how to hire top-notch coaches it is Marty Schottenheimer. There’s Tony Dungy, holding the Vince Lombardi Trophy: a former Marty assistant. The guy holding it last year was Bill Cowher, a Schottenheimer protégé. One of the two teams that beat the Chargers this past year was directed by another former Marty assistant, the Chiefs’ Herm Edwards. Mike McCarthy did a fine job in his first year as head coach in Green Bay. Yes, another former Marty assistant. Up in New York, they were raving about the abilities that young Brian Schottenheimer brought to the Jets as offensive coordinator, the connection there being obvious. The new offensive coordinator of the Steelers is Bruce Arians. Marty gave him his first NFL coaching job with the Chiefs back in 1989. He’s been in the league ever since and will now direct the development of the Pittsburgh offense and quarterback Ben Roethlisberger. There are others, including a host of former players like Manusky, who are just getting their feet wet in coaching. Despite the defections from his Chargers staff, Schottenheimer would have put together a very good coaching staff and with its talent, San Diego would have been a contender again. And maybe they will anyway. But now we must wait and see who Smith pulls out of the coaching box. All those Marty bashers will point to his poor post-season record and say this move is no big deal. They would be wrong. Schottenheimer is one of the best coaches to ever work in the NFL. Any Chiefs fan that watched the team during the 1990s knows what he was able to do. Schottenheimer and Carl Peterson turned around the entire franchise. He did the same in San Diego. So Chiefs fans, send some flowers, candy or at least a thank you card to San Diego and the men who run the franchise out there. They just brought the Chargers back to earth.
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jAZ Supporter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Tucson, AZ Casino cash: $9817493	Here's the link for the article... http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2007/02...anks_chargers/ I can't believe the Chiefs published an article calling out the San Diego Chargers like that. Seems rather like a bad idea to start opining about your opponents failures.
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