Who's D is better? - Page 2

OctoberFart · 04-04-2007, 03:40 PM

Oakland or KC Chiefs?

DL advantage Oakland Sapp, Burgess, Kelly, Sands are better than DUI BOY, Hali and the rest of scrub DT's.

LB's advantage Oakland. Young LB's in Morrison, Howard, Williams are some of the most underated in the league. KC is pretty good with DJ being the best and NAP hasn't been the same since he left Oak town and Edwards is a stop gap at this point in his career.

Secondary isn't even close as Oaklands young DB's have proved to be bigger playmakers playing in a tough man to man D instead of a crappy talent masking cover 2. Ty Law is one of the most overrated CB's ever and has made his name on 3 good games in his career.

Overall stats

Oakland
3 overall in league

NAME YDS YPG RUSH RUSH YPG PASS PASS YPG PTS PTS/G
Oakland 4557 284.8 2144 134.0 2413 150.8 332 20.8

Oaklands Pts allowed is amazing since they fielded the worst offense in the history of NFL last year.

KC
16 overall in league

NAME YDS YPG RUSH RUSH YPG PASS PASS YPG PTS PTS/G
Kansas City 5262 328.9 1928 120.5 3334 208.4 315 19.7

Can't wait to see how the homers here spin their arguments that KC's D is better.

Chief Chief · 04-04-2007, 03:53 PM

When your offense rarely makes a first down and often gives the opp's O the ball in decent field position, ya can't expect your #3-rated D to keep them from scoring all the time, even without committing penalties. Props to Chokeland's defense and its defensive coaching staff, and a slap on the back of AutumnWind (obviously a true-black Fader homer if ever there was one)...BUT...your team (and I use that term in describing the Faders extremely loosely) finished with the worst record in the entire NFL (that's #32 in wins & #1 in losses) and it still sucks big balls!!

ChiefFripp · 04-04-2007, 03:54 PM

The RaiDURs are the worst team in football, where does this guy get the nerve to even think about our Chiefs? I guess getting bitchslapped 8 games in a row by a far superior team does things to a RaidDUR fan.

kepp · 04-04-2007, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StcChief

Chokeland.... but.....Stats are everything......

Al Davis - "Just STATS, baby!"

LiL stumppy · 04-04-2007, 04:00 PM

yay,something to make my day.

listopencil · 04-04-2007, 04:20 PM

keg in kc · 04-04-2007, 04:22 PM

rofl listo

The tear is classic.

trndobrd · 04-04-2007, 04:39 PM

Let's see...how to spin this?

When your team is -23 in giveaway/takeaway (last in the NFL, followed by the Browns at -15) your Defense has the advantage of the thing which stops all offenses from gaining yards, the Endzone.

The Raiders 7 Forced Fumbles was last in the NFL.

The Raiders were run on more than any other team in the NFL 542 times. The Raiders allowed 134 yards per game rushing (#25 in the NFL) while the Chiefs gave up 120.5 YPG (#18).

The Raiders gave up a league low 150.5 yards per game passing. They were followed closely by Defensive powerhouse Indy with 159.3 yards per game.

Oh, I know...the purpose of the Defense is to stop the other team from scoring, right?

Chiefs Defense gave up avg 19.7 points a game
Raiders Defense gave up avg 20.8 points a game

(NFL rankings SD#7, DEN#9, KC#11, OAK#18)

LiL stumppy · 04-04-2007, 04:51 PM

ha good post

crazycoffey · 04-04-2007, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AutumnWind

While your at it google SB appearances and Wins.

your question was which team had the better D. Not which team had more SB appearances.

BTW, to answer your question......

Chiefs D is better

Period

OctoberFart · 04-04-2007, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trndobrd

Let's see...how to spin this?

When your team is -23 in giveaway/takeaway (last in the NFL, followed by the Browns at -15) your Defense has the advantage of the thing which stops all offenses from gaining yards, the Endzone.

The Raiders 7 Forced Fumbles was last in the NFL.

The Raiders were run on more than any other team in the NFL 542 times. The Raiders allowed 134 yards per game rushing (#25 in the NFL) while the Chiefs gave up 120.5 YPG (#18).

The Raiders gave up a league low 150.5 yards per game passing. They were followed closely by Defensive powerhouse Indy with 159.3 yards per game.

Oh, I know...the purpose of the Defense is to stop the other team from scoring, right?

Chiefs Defense gave up avg 19.7 points a game
Raiders Defense gave up avg 20.8 points a game

(NFL rankings SD#7, DEN#9, KC#11, OAK#18)

I already told you that the worst O in the history of the NFL shell fielded last year contributed to the PPG and lots of Rushing attempts. Oakland's Defense is clearly better and they were the bright spot in a dismal year.

Joie · 04-04-2007, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AutumnWind

I already told you that the worst O in the history of the NFL shell fielded last year contributed to the PPG and lots of Rushing attempts. Oakland's Defense is clearly better and they were the bright spot in a dismal year.

Keep trying to make yourself feel better. Bottom line: Oakland is an inferior team. You shouldn't need to troll a Chiefs website to learn that.

keg in kc · 04-04-2007, 05:54 PM

I make a motion that one of the mods transform "AutumnWind" into "OctoberFart".

crazycoffey · 04-04-2007, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AutumnWind

I already told you that the worst O in the history of the NFL shell fielded last year contributed to the PPG and lots of Rushing attempts. Oakland's Defense is clearly better and they were the bright spot in a dismal year.

So, just how big of a tard are you? Daddy and Mommy were related weren't they.

crazycoffey · 04-04-2007, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I make a motion that one of the mods transform "AutumnWind" into "OctoberFart".

I Second

OctoberFart · 04-04-2007, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joie

Keep trying to make yourself feel better. Bottom line: Oakland is an inferior team. You shouldn't need to troll a Chiefs website to learn that.

When I get out of the yard later in December I'll make sure I come in here to serve up some crow to you redneck fools.

04-04-2007, 03:40 PM
OctoberFart Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $10006091	Who's D is better? Oakland or KC Chiefs? DL advantage Oakland Sapp, Burgess, Kelly, Sands are better than DUI BOY, Hali and the rest of scrub DT's. LB's advantage Oakland. Young LB's in Morrison, Howard, Williams are some of the most underated in the league. KC is pretty good with DJ being the best and NAP hasn't been the same since he left Oak town and Edwards is a stop gap at this point in his career. Secondary isn't even close as Oaklands young DB's have proved to be bigger playmakers playing in a tough man to man D instead of a crappy talent masking cover 2. Ty Law is one of the most overrated CB's ever and has made his name on 3 good games in his career. Overall stats Oakland 3 overall in league NAME YDS YPG RUSH RUSH YPG PASS PASS YPG PTS PTS/G Oakland 4557 284.8 2144 134.0 2413 150.8 332 20.8 Oaklands Pts allowed is amazing since they fielded the worst offense in the history of NFL last year. KC 16 overall in league NAME YDS YPG RUSH RUSH YPG PASS PASS YPG PTS PTS/G Kansas City 5262 328.9 1928 120.5 3334 208.4 315 19.7 Can't wait to see how the homers here spin their arguments that KC's D is better.
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Chief Chief Veteran Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City MO Casino cash: $10004900	When your offense rarely makes a first down and often gives the opp's O the ball in decent field position, ya can't expect your #3-rated D to keep them from scoring all the time, even without committing penalties. Props to Chokeland's defense and its defensive coaching staff, and a slap on the back of AutumnWind (obviously a true-black Fader homer if ever there was one)...BUT...your team (and I use that term in describing the Faders extremely loosely) finished with the worst record in the entire NFL (that's #32 in wins & #1 in losses) and it still sucks big balls!!
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trndobrd 'Stachecicle Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Tolerance Box Casino cash: $2275087	Let's see...how to spin this? When your team is -23 in giveaway/takeaway (last in the NFL, followed by the Browns at -15) your Defense has the advantage of the thing which stops all offenses from gaining yards, the Endzone. The Raiders 7 Forced Fumbles was last in the NFL. The Raiders were run on more than any other team in the NFL 542 times. The Raiders allowed 134 yards per game rushing (#25 in the NFL) while the Chiefs gave up 120.5 YPG (#18). The Raiders gave up a league low 150.5 yards per game passing. They were followed closely by Defensive powerhouse Indy with 159.3 yards per game. Oh, I know...the purpose of the Defense is to stop the other team from scoring, right? Chiefs Defense gave up avg 19.7 points a game Raiders Defense gave up avg 20.8 points a game (NFL rankings SD#7, DEN#9, KC#11, OAK#18) __________________
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