Is Croyle injury prone? Or a victim of bad luck? - Page 2

**BigRedChief** · 12-26-2007, 07:18 AM

For me, it's not what happend in the last 5 games. It's the history of being injury proned.

2001 he tore an ACL in his first game of his senior year in high school.

2002 He reshirted and didn't play football at Bama.

2003 at Bama, numerous serious injuries

2004 tore an ACL in the 3rd game of the season.

2005 played his first and only full season without injury.

2006 didn't play much

2007 in 5 games has been injured twice. Missing a start for the first one. 2nd one still TBD.

I'm sorry but thats a pattern. You can call it bad luck, concindence whatever....but it has to be a valid reason for concern.

BTW, totally unrelated but I found interesting. Brodie's myspace webpage:
http://www.myspace.com/brodie_croyle

Deberg_1990 · 12-26-2007, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by blueballs

He was worth a 3rd round pick regardless
and considering the CHiefs actuallly took a shot
at drafting a QB -rewarding to watch

Agreed.

WHo knows? he may still pan out, but his history says otherwise......

Anyhow, it would be smart to draft a QB in 08, and let him duke it out with Croyle in camp. Or you start the season next year with Croyle and let the rookie sit and learn.

Competition and depth is good.

el borracho · 12-26-2007, 11:59 AM

Seems to be injury-prone but I would give him another season just to be sure. We probably suck again next year, anyway, so it really won't hurt to wait a year to draft the next QB of the future.

el borracho · 12-26-2007, 12:01 PM

By the way, the Chiefs thought enough of Thigpen to steal him from the Vikings so we might as well get him some reps next year, as well.

MOhillbilly · 12-26-2007, 12:12 PM

after seeing him in person the guy is tiny. i dont think he can make it.

**BigRedChief** · 12-26-2007, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

after seeing him in person the guy is tiny. i dont think he can make it.

In his defense are at least 6 starting NFL QB's that weigh less than him or are within 5 lbs. of his weight.

kc1977 · 12-26-2007, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

read one of his comments from the myspace page..talking about the colts game they said if he had a better d he would have won...

we gave up 13 ****ing points and made Manning look average..wtf?

You serious? Can you post a link? I just want to see for myself that this guy is as stupid as he sucks.

**BigRedChief** · 12-26-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kc1977

You serious? Can you post a link? I just want to see for myself that this guy is as stupid as he sucks.

His myspace webpage link is in my first post in this thread.

Chiefs_5627 · 12-26-2007, 02:26 PM

Victim of crappy o-line.

Mecca · 12-26-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by talastan

No we will not draft a QB in the first round....Herm has already commented about building this team around Croyle. I think he gets one more year to play behind an actual offensive line, not some patchwork POS, and then if he can't cut it we draft a QB. (Chances are if he's stinking up the joint then we'll get a high pick next year as well.)

This is called being stubborn....when he gets hurt 5 times next year everyone is gonna bitch.

Mecca · 12-26-2007, 03:41 PM

I'd also like to add...

I notice this year people are complaining about Ryan/Brohm/Woodson/Brennan, but they look like Manning/Brady compared to the QB crop next year. My prediction is that many NFL teams will be drafting QBs in Rounds 1-3 this year, knowing the dearth of quality QBs for 2009 Draft.

My observation is that there are lots of 3rd-5th round talents to choose from, but none are 1st round material and only a few who are solid Round 2 QBs.

1. Todd Boeckman (scary but true...he may be the best senior QB next year)
2. Hunter Cantwell
3. Chase Daniel
4. Rudy Carpenter
5. Cullen Harper
6. Curtis Painter
7. Graham Harrell
8. Nate Longshore
9. Stephen McGee
10. John Parker Wilson

This list makes me think Tim Tebow will be heading to the NFL Draft in 2009....and will be the slam-dunk 1st round QB selected. The rest of the list (seniors only) looks awful!!

Oddly I can't really think of any Vince Young-like QB next year that's NFL ready. I know Pat White is fast, but I can't seriously imagine him playing QB in NFL (the guy is listed as 185 lbs, so probably weighs even less than that).

blueballs · 12-26-2007, 08:18 PM

peshaw
Carl has the QB FA list memorized
for the next two offseasons

2bikemike · 12-26-2007, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs_5627

Victim of crappy o-line.

Except the O-line had nothing to do with his latest injury.
I am beginning to believe his body just isn't compatible with contact sports.

People say he is small but that really doesn't wash. There are several QB's that weren't that big that survived. Some peoples bodies just injure more easily than others.

**BigRedChief** · 12-26-2007, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs_5627

Victim of crappy o-line.

So the o-line threw the interception did the flop on the field in front of 3 opponents to injure his wrist?

So he's never going to get flushed from the pocket and get tackled from behind? I'd sure like to see that o-line.

**Tribal Warfare** · 12-26-2007, 11:14 PM

talking about the size issue, Montana came into the league at 6'2" and 190 pounds as a rookie and everything worked out fine there. I bring this up because Joe and Brodie have the same mental toughness that's necessary for the position.

Tits McGee · 12-27-2007, 12:21 AM

My aunts Hummel collection is tougher than Brodie.

View Poll Results: Injury Prone or Bad Luck
You can't fake history. Injury Prone.	31	44.93%
If it wasn't for bad luck Bodie would have no luck at all.	9	13.04%
Combination of bad luck and injury prone	24	34.78%
Whatever FAX says	5	7.25%
Voters: 69. You may not vote on this poll

12-26-2007, 07:18 AM
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-571038 VARSITY	Is Croyle injury prone? Or a victim of bad luck? For me, it's not what happend in the last 5 games. It's the history of being injury proned. 2001 he tore an ACL in his first game of his senior year in high school. 2002 He reshirted and didn't play football at Bama. 2003 at Bama, numerous serious injuries 2004 tore an ACL in the 3rd game of the season. 2005 played his first and only full season without injury. 2006 didn't play much 2007 in 5 games has been injured twice. Missing a start for the first one. 2nd one still TBD. I'm sorry but thats a pattern. You can call it bad luck, concindence whatever....but it has to be a valid reason for concern. BTW, totally unrelated but I found interesting. Brodie's myspace webpage: http://www.myspace.com/brodie_croyle
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12-26-2007, 11:59 AM	#17
el borracho In Pat We Trust Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Albuquerque, NM Casino cash: $2729148	Seems to be injury-prone but I would give him another season just to be sure. We probably suck again next year, anyway, so it really won't hurt to wait a year to draft the next QB of the future.
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12-26-2007, 12:01 PM	#18
el borracho In Pat We Trust Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Albuquerque, NM Casino cash: $2729148	By the way, the Chiefs thought enough of Thigpen to steal him from the Vikings so we might as well get him some reps next year, as well.
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12-26-2007, 12:12 PM	#19
MOhillbilly Mama Tried Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $9949903	after seeing him in person the guy is tiny. i dont think he can make it. __________________ True Son of Liberty
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12-26-2007, 02:26 PM	#23
Chiefs_5627 Starter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Right hurrr Casino cash: $10004900	Victim of crappy o-line.
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12-26-2007, 03:41 PM	#25
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-502950	I'd also like to add... I notice this year people are complaining about Ryan/Brohm/Woodson/Brennan, but they look like Manning/Brady compared to the QB crop next year. My prediction is that many NFL teams will be drafting QBs in Rounds 1-3 this year, knowing the dearth of quality QBs for 2009 Draft. My observation is that there are lots of 3rd-5th round talents to choose from, but none are 1st round material and only a few who are solid Round 2 QBs. 1. Todd Boeckman (scary but true...he may be the best senior QB next year) 2. Hunter Cantwell 3. Chase Daniel 4. Rudy Carpenter 5. Cullen Harper 6. Curtis Painter 7. Graham Harrell 8. Nate Longshore 9. Stephen McGee 10. John Parker Wilson This list makes me think Tim Tebow will be heading to the NFL Draft in 2009....and will be the slam-dunk 1st round QB selected. The rest of the list (seniors only) looks awful!! Oddly I can't really think of any Vince Young-like QB next year that's NFL ready. I know Pat White is fast, but I can't seriously imagine him playing QB in NFL (the guy is listed as 185 lbs, so probably weighs even less than that).
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12-26-2007, 08:18 PM	#26
blueballs Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	peshaw Carl has the QB FA list memorized for the next two offseasons
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12-26-2007, 11:14 PM	#29
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-2777187	talking about the size issue, Montana came into the league at 6'2" and 190 pounds as a rookie and everything worked out fine there. I bring this up because Joe and Brodie have the same mental toughness that's necessary for the position. __________________
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12-27-2007, 12:21 AM	#30
Tits McGee I'm kind of a big deal... Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $10007115	My aunts Hummel collection is tougher than Brodie. __________________ Don't act like you're not impressed... "What the f*#k is juice? It's grape drink!" -Dave Chappelle-
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