Brodie Croyle- What do you expect in '08? - Page 2

Pablo · 01:11 AM

Here are the parameters for this thread:

1) Assuming we don't draft a QB in the 1st Round

2) Brodie is named the starter

3) We make definitive improvements to the O-Line via draft, possibly FA.

4) L.J. and Kolby return healthy and ready to roll.
Edit:
5) Brodie remains healthy

That being said, if Croyle is the starter, what do you expect as far as stats, wins, game started, games played?

What would it take for you to be satisfied?

Here are some of my expectations(what it would take for me to be reasonably satisfied):

2,700-3,200 yards passing
60% completion
15-20 TD's/15 INT's

16 Games Started (I'd only be satisfied if he started the whole season, without injury.)

I'd be satisfied with 7-9 wins.

kcfan82 · 12-30-2007, 10:27 PM

I expect Carl to be watching the game from the field level seats.

MadMax · 12-30-2007, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88

Here are the parameters for this thread:

1) Assuming we don't draft a QB in the 1st Round

2) Brodie is named the starter

3) We make definitive improvements to the O-Line via draft, possibly FA.

4) L.J. and Kolby return healthy and ready to roll.

That being said, if Croyle is the starter, what do you expect as far as stats, wins, game started, games played?

What would it take for you to be satisfied?

Here are some of my expectations(what it would take for me to be reasonably satisfied):

2,700-3,200 yards passing
60% completion
15-20 TD's/15 INT's

16 Games Started (I'd only be satisfied if he started the whole season, without injury.)

I'd be satisfied with 7-9 wins.

I expect you to inform us weekly on what a shitty QB he is.

Hammock Parties · 12-30-2007, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

and you write a football column

I think i'd rather read dear abbys nfl sunday than read your crap

I still love you like a brother. Someday we may be related.

**ShortRoundChief** · 12-30-2007, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

You can't build a line in one offseason, and we need 4 players.

I just hope he's better at the end of the year than the start.

bs, we pretty much built an o line in 1 year when dv was here

year 1 was horrible

next year waters moved to guard, picked up roaf, tait moved to lt, weigmann in fa

the only difference is that we originally had a stud in shields, we still have a stud in waters

i think svitek can be a good RIGHT TACKLE, we need a lt,

**ShortRoundChief** · 12-30-2007, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

I still love you like a brother. Someday we may be related.

NO, i'm not gonna marry your mother, i just abuse her sexually

Hammock Parties · 12-30-2007, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

bs, we pretty much built an o line in 1 year when dv was here

year 1 was horrible

It was not nearly as bad as it was this year. Not even close.

2001 we were 5th in total offense, had the league's leading rusher and gave up 39 sacks. The line wasn't great, but it wasn't bottom barrel by any means.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-30-2007, 10:37 PM

Waters is not a stud at all. He's looking like the beneficiary of playing on either side of two hall of famers.

**ShortRoundChief** · 12-30-2007, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

It was not nearly as bad as it was this year. Not even close.

2001 we were 5th in total offense, had the league's leading rusher and gave up 39 sacks. The line wasn't great, but it wasn't bottom barrel by any means.

if i recall correctly, the majority of Priest yards were in garbage time and trent green was too busy trying to get the ball of hastily (i don't remember him having an int with time that year) the sack total is skewed cause tg was lobbing it up for grabs

**ShortRoundChief** · 12-30-2007, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Waters is not a stud at all. He's looking like the beneficiary of playing on either side of two hall of famers.

you can throw a strawberry in a toilet bowl full of turds, it's still a strawberry

I remeber waters knocking the **** out of ray lewis one on one and lewis pissing about he's getting double teamed

ChiefsFanatic · 12-30-2007, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Time to throw Tavaris Jackson, Vince Young, Eli Manning and Philip Rivers on the scrap heap, then.

Are these players not in the playoffs?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-30-2007, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic

Are these players not in the playoffs?

3 of 4 are, and the one that missed, just barely missed.

But according to GC's "Top 15" requirement, they suck.

catfish307 · 12-30-2007, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88

Here are the parameters for this thread:

1) Assuming we don't draft a QB in the 1st Round

2) Brodie is named the starter

3) We make definitive improvements to the O-Line via draft, possibly FA.

4) L.J. and Kolby return healthy and ready to roll.

That being said, if Croyle is the starter, what do you expect as far as stats, wins, game started, games played?

What would it take for you to be satisfied?

Here are some of my expectations(what it would take for me to be reasonably satisfied):

2,700-3,200 yards passing
60% completion
15-20 TD's/15 INT's

16 Games Started (I'd only be satisfied if he started the whole season, without injury.)

I'd be satisfied with 7-9 wins.

Pablo · 12-30-2007, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by catfish307

So, it's unreasonable for me to expect:

167-200 yards passing

and roughly 1 TD/1 INT a game ??

Assuming he starts all games.

catfish307 · 12-30-2007, 11:28 PM

I'll give him 1500 yards, 30 or more interceptions and 12 touchdowns if he plays all 16 games and the O line improves. I still dont believe he has what it takes to be a starter in this league.

Pablo · 12-30-2007, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by catfish307

I'll give him 1500 yards, 30 or more interceptions and 12 touchdowns if he plays all 16 games and the O line improves. I still dont believe he has what it takes to be a starter in this league.

Haha. Okay, let's use the 6 games he has played in for a projection point.

6 Games:

927 yards passing/155 a game

5 TD's/5 INT's

58.98% completion

16 Games:

2,472 yards passing

13 TD's/13 INT's

Completion % unchanged

I only used the games he started in for statistical comparison. If I throw in the games he came in for Huard or played part of the stats just get better.

That's just a very loose projection of what he could have done statistically if he'd started 16 games this season, could be worse, probably would have been better. We'll never know. But I certainly don't look for him to average less than 100 yards passing a game and less than 1 TD and nearly 2 INT's a game like you do.

Call me an optomist if you like, but numbers don't lie. I don't pin him to do nearly as poorly as you might think with a hopefully improved supporting cast.

12-30-2007, 10:03 PM
Pablo Ultrabanned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northland Casino cash: $-1760644	Brodie Croyle- What do you expect in '08? Here are the parameters for this thread: 1) Assuming we don't draft a QB in the 1st Round 2) Brodie is named the starter 3) We make definitive improvements to the O-Line via draft, possibly FA. 4) L.J. and Kolby return healthy and ready to roll. Edit: 5) Brodie remains healthy That being said, if Croyle is the starter, what do you expect as far as stats, wins, game started, games played? What would it take for you to be satisfied? Here are some of my expectations(what it would take for me to be reasonably satisfied): 2,700-3,200 yards passing 60% completion 15-20 TD's/15 INT's 16 Games Started (I'd only be satisfied if he started the whole season, without injury.) I'd be satisfied with 7-9 wins. Last edited by Pablo; 12-31-2007 at 01:11 AM..
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catfish307 Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MO Casino cash: $10004925	I'll give him 1500 yards, 30 or more interceptions and 12 touchdowns if he plays all 16 games and the O line improves. I still dont believe he has what it takes to be a starter in this league.
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