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Old 09-14-2008, 07:47 PM  
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Name an area of the Chiefs Herm Edwards has improved since he took over?

QB = No

O-Line - no

Rb's - no

D-line - Hmmm...they have gotten younger, but overall have they really improved??

Linebackers - No

Defensive backs - perhaps??

special teams - no

punter - maybe??

place kicker - no



Not a very good track record.....

Why does this guy deserve to still have a job??
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Old 09-14-2008, 07:59 PM   #16
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The draft/scouting in general.

One thing to consider is that the state of the team is what it is because of the decline of the Vermiel era players. I'm not a Herm defender here, but he's just this season putting together position units that have his stamp on them.
I would agree with this.
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Old 09-14-2008, 07:59 PM   #17
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Old 09-14-2008, 07:59 PM   #18
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Zach,

They have gotten younger, but have they really improved overall? We just gave up 300 yards rushing to a bad one dimensional offense.
Yes. On defense.

They have.

Under Herm means more than what happened on this Sunday.
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Old 09-14-2008, 08:00 PM   #19
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drafting in general, but nurturing that talent is non-existent
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Old 09-14-2008, 08:20 PM   #20
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The defense mostly. Everything else has gone downhill.

It's not even downhill at this point anymore, more of a free-fall.
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Old 09-14-2008, 08:24 PM   #21
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People dog on Vermeil alot, but he did rebuild when he came in.

New QB
New RB
Rebuilt O-line
New WR's

Better position coaches

Albeit he did it with mostly vets, but he did rebuild.

IM not even Vermeils biggest fan, but Herm makes DV look like Bellicheck.
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One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 09-14-2008, 08:24 PM   #22
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Old 09-14-2008, 08:26 PM   #23
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People dog on Vermeil alot, but he did rebuild when he came in.

New QB
New RB
Rebuilt O-line
New WR's

Better position coaches

Albeit he did it with mostly vets, but he did rebuild.
IM not even Vermeils biggest fan, but Herm makes DV look like Bellicheck.
What Vermeil did isn't rebuilding. That's why we're rebuilding now.
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Old 09-14-2008, 08:27 PM   #24
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What Vermeil did isn't rebuilding. That's why we're rebuilding now.
Exactly.
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Old 09-14-2008, 08:29 PM   #25
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What Vermeil did isn't rebuilding. That's why we're rebuilding now.
Thats true, but at least vermiel (on offense) knew how to judge talent
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Old 09-14-2008, 08:31 PM   #26
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Thats true, but at least vermiel (on offense) knew how to judge talent
Sure, talent of players that he's watched for years. His drafts were all a freaking joke though. My point is that trading draft picks for old players isn't rebuilding.
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Old 09-14-2008, 08:33 PM   #27
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People dog on Vermeil alot, but he did rebuild when he came in.

New QB
New RB
Rebuilt O-line
New WR's

Better position coaches

Albeit he did it with mostly vets, but he did rebuild.

IM not even Vermeils biggest fan, but Herm makes DV look like Bellicheck.
Yes, nobody is acting like our offense is better.

Besides no matter what Herm does he accomplished as much as DV. A playoff appearance resulting in a loss.
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Old 09-14-2008, 08:34 PM   #28
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Thats true, but at least vermiel (on offense) knew how to judge talent
Hall was his only discovery. Holmes was a 1000 yard back early in his career, of course nobody expected him to turn into what he did. A blind monkey knew Willie Roaf was a pure stud and Green, Kennison, and Weigmann were productive starters in the league. It was a quick fix to get a Super Bowl and it set this franchise back. That and the Greatest Show on Turf offense was a smoke and mirror show on the fan base as well.
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Old 09-14-2008, 08:34 PM   #29
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Name an area of the Chiefs Herm Edwards has improved since he took over?

Draft position comes to mind.
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Name an area of the Chiefs Herm Edwards has improved since he took over?

Draft position comes to mind.
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