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Old 10-29-2008, 10:51 AM  
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The problem with Dorsey
People have become concerned with Glen Dorsey, and fear that he may not be all that was expected.

Whitlock has pointed to his knee injuries as a possible explanation for his lack of production.

Some people have pointed out that he hasn't developed any moves, and others have talked about the fact that he tends to take a step back at the snap.

The biggest problem I see is that he has a tendency to lower his head when he attacks the LOS, and when he does that, the battle is all but lost.

Regardless, all of the technique errors are correctable, and when corrected, he will be a force.

But give him time.

He's a rookie.

It takes time.
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Old 10-29-2008, 11:00 AM   #16
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I'm certain he isn't.
We must be the home of the most inept position coaches in the NFL.
We need a new coaches for the OL, DL, QB, and LB's.
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Old 10-29-2008, 11:03 AM   #17
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Indeed.

I'm not sure that Krumrie's that guy.
I can guarantee you that he's not the guy. He's a terrible coach that people gravitate to just because he's a ****ing loudmouth.

I wish I could find a clip of him breaking his leg in the Super Bowl...
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Old 10-29-2008, 11:05 AM   #18
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It seriously looks like he's taking about to take a shit.
the first photo looks like faneca has a hold of his jersey pulling him down
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Old 10-29-2008, 11:08 AM   #19
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Well while I'm not a fan of DTs who are hovering around 300 lbs, that's a little light for my taste, we know the guy has the skill set to be a dominate player. Otherwise, every scout out there wouldn't of thought that this guy could be the most talented player in last year's draft.

So I'm sure he'll come around in time.

But I think getting rid of Gun & Tim Krumrie would be a good start in the off-season.

Hey with any luck, Herm will be gone which will take care of all the others.
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Old 10-29-2008, 11:08 AM   #20
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the first photo looks like faneca has a hold of his jersey pulling him down
That may well be, but the thing is, once Dorsey lowers his head, he loses vision, and gives the O-Lineman leverage advantage by default.
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Old 10-29-2008, 11:08 AM   #21
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the first photo looks like faneca has a hold of his jersey pulling him down
If you watch the play live, Faneca took on his initial block, pushed him away and took him on the second time. I looked like an obvious rook vs. a vet, which is ok because thats what it was, but he got owned.
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Old 10-29-2008, 11:10 AM   #22
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Those pics depress me to no end.

I can't believe the size of the running gaps that the Oline blew open. You could drive a Mack truck though the lanes. There is NO penetration or rush whatsoever.

Why did they not run the ball down our fucking throats?
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That may well be, but the thing is, once Dorsey lowers his head, he loses vision, and gives the O-Lineman leverage advantage by default.
i can see that too. hopefully he gets someone to teach him and all these young linemen how to play
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Old 10-29-2008, 11:15 AM   #24
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Hopefully his knees will be able to hold up.
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Glenn Dorsey through 7 games: 18 tackles, 14 solo, 0 sacks

The rest of these guys rookie year, 16 game:

Warren Sapp - 27 tackles, 3 sacks, 1 int
Albert Haynesworth, 30 tackles, 21 solo, 1 sack
Tommie Harris - 43 tackles, 28 solo, 3.5 sacks
Casey Hampton - 22 tackles, 9 solo, 1 sack
Kris Jenkins - 34 tackles, 27 solo, 2 sacks
Marcus Stroud - 25 tackles, 21 solo, 0 sacks

Some guys take off right away (Kevin Williams, John Henderson) but others take some time to develop.
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Old 10-29-2008, 11:17 AM   #26
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Hopefully his knees will be able to hold up.
There ain't nothing wrong with his damn knees. He's just a rookie.
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If you watch the play live, Faneca took on his initial block, pushed him away and took him on the second time. I looked like an obvious rook vs. a vet, which is ok because thats what it was, but he got owned.
So true, size is no substitute for good technique and it takes time to develop it. But I agree, at 7 games in Dorsey should have been told by his line coach that his technique was off and to get his head up.

The difference is monumentous between college and pros. And Faneca has definatly been around the block. It takes time to develop the skills to compete and dominate in the NFL.

I, for one, am not ready to give up on Glenn Dorsey, or any of our players from the last draft class, it is far too soon and they haven't had a coach worth a sh*t.
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Glenn Dorsey through 7 games: 18 tackles, 14 solo, 0 sacks

The rest of these guys rookie year, 16 game:

Warren Sapp - 27 tackles, 3 sacks, 1 int
Albert Haynesworth, 30 tackles, 21 solo, 1 sack
Tommie Harris - 43 tackles, 28 solo, 3.5 sacks
Casey Hampton - 22 tackles, 9 solo, 1 sack
Kris Jenkins - 34 tackles, 27 solo, 2 sacks
Marcus Stroud - 25 tackles, 21 solo, 0 sacks

Some guys take off right away (Kevin Williams, John Henderson) but others take some time to develop.

Good post, I was wondering how all the greats fared their first seasons. Good to see he is on pace with those names.
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and how many people around here wanted NOTHING to do with faneca?
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