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Fat Elvis · 12-01-2008, 09:35 AM

What impact does having falling from #2 to #5 have on our draft?

duncan_idaho · 12-01-2008, 09:59 AM

Somtimes, being out of range of the consensus No. 1 QB in the draft (and No. 1 pick) isn't a bad thing.

Look at the 06 draft. Specifically, the six players taken after JaPorky Russell. All six likely are multiple Pro-Bowlers. Russell is likely the biggest bust since Ryan Leaf.

Or look at the 05 draft. Think the Packers are glad Rodgers, and not Smith, fell to 22 or whatever it was?

I know there are a lot of people who think Stafford is football jesus. But even if he IS as good as those people think, not drafting him isn't the end of the world - if you get another high-level player at your slot.

I want a franchise QB, too. But drafting a QB No. 1 overall this year isn't the ONLY way to get one.

**Bowser** · 12-01-2008, 10:00 AM

I just don't want Lauranitis. He loos WAY undersized to play Mike in the NFL. Give me Cushing or Maualunga if we slide a bit.

duncan_idaho · 12-01-2008, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Stafford won't amount to shit in the NFL. Quote this, now.

What, you mean a three-year starter in the SEC whose greatest attributes are his arm strength and upside/long-term potential, who has serious issues with accuracy and decision making, not to mention a tendency to get a little chunky, and who only has one year of DECENT production and two years of SHITTY production, isn't going to be a great success in the NFL?

I mean, that doesn't sound like anybody else we know, does it?

**Saulbadguy** · 12-01-2008, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

What, you mean a three-year starter in the SEC whose greatest attributes are his arm strength and upside/long-term potential, who has serious issues with accuracy and decision making, not to mention a tendency to get a little chunky, and who only has one year of DECENT production and two years of SHITTY production, isn't going to be a great success in the NFL?

I mean, that doesn't sound like anybody else we know, does it?

Exactly. Combine whores and Maddenites may disagree, though. I am seriously getting tired of the "Franchise QB" expression, it is more reeruned than "true #1 wide receiver" and "shutdown corner".

PhillyChiefFan · 12-01-2008, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

I just don't want Lauranitis. He loos WAY undersized to play Mike in the NFL. Give me Cushing or Maualunga if we slide a bit.

Some are high on Lauranitius, but I am with you on this. I believe he is a ball hawk and intelligent, but I don't think he has the size to play up to his current draft status. I think he would get pancaked by lineman, he has a lot of upside, but to start right away...I think he would struggle.

He is more of a project than Maualuga, IMHO. If Orakpo was gone, I would go with him over Lauranitius.

Chief Faithful · 12-01-2008, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

What, you mean a three-year starter in the SEC whose greatest attributes are his arm strength and upside/long-term potential, who has serious issues with accuracy and decision making, not to mention a tendency to get a little chunky, and who only has one year of DECENT production and two years of SHITTY production, isn't going to be a great success in the NFL?

I mean, that doesn't sound like anybody else we know, does it?

You mean that guy in Georgia with lousy footwork under pressure and no pocket pressence? Dick Curl could polish all those warts and make him a star in 9 or 10 years.

I'd rather the Chiefs obtained his receiver Massaquoi.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-01-2008, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Stafford won't amount to shit in the NFL. Quote this, now.

Bookmarked.

Chief Faithful · 12-01-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

This draft is weak at the top. I'm one of the biggest draft guys on here, but I really don't think it's going to be a huge issue this year to pick at somewhere like 5 instead of 2.

Exactly why I think it is a good year to trade down for extra picks.

**DaKCMan AP** · 12-01-2008, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan

Stafford, in my mind, is gone. Detroit is terrible, probably will go 0-16 and they need a QB like I need my liver. Course I thought Quinn would go to Miami 2 years ago also, so I guess you never know.

If we don't get Orakpo, looking less likely with the win @ Oakland, we can still grab either a good LB in Laurinituis or Maualuga or take a reach and grab Michael Johnson at DE, good prospect, but not convinced he is worthy of a top 5 pick. Tyson Jackson may be available in the 2nd also.

If Bradford has a good outting at the championship (assuming they go), he might declare. With the QB stockpile limited in this coming draft, he might make the jump. Unless there has been news on him to the contrary, I'm assuming he is still undecided.

No to Laurinaitis. Tyson Jackson is garbage.

**DeezNutz** · 12-01-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

I think I agree with this. None of these top defensive ends really excite me, so that basically leaves 1 quarterback and a couple of offensive tackles in the top 5, IMO. We don't have a shot at that QB, so it might be better to be in the 5-7 range.

Being in this range also opens up more possibilities. A team could consider taking a safety or LB, positions not even on the table in the top 3.

To be clear, I wanted the #1 overall, but I'm trying to find a bright spot.

duncan_idaho · 12-01-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

You mean that guy in Georgia with lousy footwork under pressure and no pocket pressence? Dick Curl could polish all those warts and make him a star in 9 or 10 years.

I'd rather the Chiefs obtained his receiver Massaquoi.

What, you mean there are a lot of similarities between Matthew Stafford and JaMarcus Russell?

Is that what it sounded like I was saying?

And you're right, I'm sure QB genius Dick Curl can instantly correct the problems that QB dunces Richt and Bobo haven't been able to fix in three years...

Chief Faithful · 12-01-2008, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Being in this range also opens up more possibilities. A team could consider taking a safety or LB, positions not even on the table in the top 3.

To be clear, I wanted the #1 overall, but I'm trying to find a bright spot.

Think Micheal Johnson will fall to round 2? No worthy of a top 10 pick, but has a great frame where he could develop into a top notch DE.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-01-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

Exactly why I think it is a good year to trade down for extra picks.

If it's weak at the top, who is going to want to trade up?

PhillyChiefFan · 12-01-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

No to Laurinaitis. Tyson Jackson is garbage.

Oh I agree with you. Tyson Jackson would be a project to say the least, but I'm saying if they wanted to take a DE and Orakpo/M. Johnson wasn't there and they had to take the BPA in the first. it would be an option, not a good one, but an option nonetheless.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-01-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

You mean that guy in Georgia with lousy footwork under pressure and no pocket pressence? Dick Curl could polish all those warts and make him a star in 9 or 10 years.

I'd rather the Chiefs obtained his receiver Massaquoi.

I'd rather you watch a ****ing Georgia game before commenting on things you have no ****ing idea about.

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