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Old 12-25-2008, 05:04 AM  
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Shop For Free Agents: Who would You Pick Up?

Shop For Free Agents: Who would You Pick Up?

Scout.com 2009 Free Agency Rankings

Chiefs have only 17 players on the 47 man roster with 4 years or more experience. That's 18 rookies, 30 guys total in their 3rd year or less. That makes Kansas City the youngest team in the NFL. The departure of players like Pat Surtain, Damon Huard and Donnie Edwards would make the Chiefs even less bouyed by experience.

The Chiefs will in all likelihood bid on some of the players listed at site linked to above. Anybody got your attention? With the team $32 mil under the salary cap, I think the FO can afford a bit of a shopping spree.

Me? Julius Peppers and Albert Haynesworth would look great in red & gold. Safetyman Yeremiah Bell is only in his 5th year.


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Old 12-25-2008, 02:33 PM   #16
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Matt Cassel and Antonio Bryant would be at the top my list.
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Old 12-25-2008, 02:37 PM   #17
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Vilma, Andrews, Suggs
Draft:
Rey Maulauga
Herman Johnson
Antoine Caldwell

I believe that fills all the holes
RT: Andrews
RG: Johnson
C: Caldwell

DL: Suggs, Dorsey, Tyler, Hali

LB: Vilma, Maulauga, Johnson

PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN...Hunt did say he was gonna spend some dough in FA
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Old 12-25-2008, 03:47 PM   #18
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Isn't Vilma a MLB? Is Rey really worth the 2nd pick?
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Old 12-25-2008, 04:01 PM   #19
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Right, cause, who needs defense?

I am not understanding this. People mostly want offense offense. I am one of the few screaming defense over here. I Think Vermeil spoiled everyone with offense. lol
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Old 12-25-2008, 04:28 PM   #20
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Len Dawson was 40 years ago. The NFL changes. At one point the draft was almost 20 rounds and there was no free agency.

The fact of the matter is that with the increase in the cap and the use of the franchise tag, top tier players don't get away. All the players who hit the open market have severe flaws in their game or huge personal question marks surrounding them with so much associated risk that the increase in the size of the contracts far outweighs the potential reward of signing them.

Draft your core players, let the nonessential guys walk in FA, and collect compensatory draft picks. Use the savings to lock up the big guys.

Look at all the big free agent prizes of the last several years. T.O., Nate Clements, Steve Hutchinson, Leonard Davis, Joey Porter, Plaxico Burress, Justin Smith. All those players either play complementary positions (Hutch, Davis), are complementary players (Smith) and got paid huge cash, or are nutjobs. The one exception is Clements who got a 70 million dollar contract and has done nothing to justify it.

This team has built itself through FA for the last 15 years and hasn't won a playoff game because of it. At least the Chiefs of about 89-94 were built through the draft, save for Saleamua and Montana. Once KC's core draft picks from the end of the Steadman era dried up, so did the team.
Joey Porter? The same Joey Porter who is leading the AFC in sacks? Yeah, what a waste.
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Old 12-25-2008, 04:33 PM   #21
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Also wasnt Abraham a FA? dude has 16.5 sacks and has his team in the play offs as well. hehe

I think you can go for a top tier player, but you have to be smart about it and dont get a dud.
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Old 12-25-2008, 04:46 PM   #22
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Says who? You ascribe to a subjective orthodoxy that you assume all fans must by needs follow. Chiefs fans should note that Lenny Dawson was the equivalent to a FA and he was THE cornerstone of the Kansas City Chiefs to include 2 SB appearances.

If we aren't at the point to add top tier players ($32 mil under the cap) then who is?
Exactly. People who don't believe you can pick up good players in FA are idiots. We can pick many, young and old players up next year in FA that can help is for the the next 3 years or more.
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Old 12-25-2008, 04:47 PM   #23
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I am not understanding this. People mostly want offense offense. I am one of the few screaming defense over here. I Think Vermeil spoiled everyone with offense. lol
No, what you don't understand is that no one wants to ignore the defense.

But what some of us want is a complete team that can be a SB contender for years, and the way to do that is to find the best players that can make that a reality.

For some that means that while defense is a priority, we also understand that you can not simply draft or sign defensive players to fill a need.

You get the best players that you can.
You find value at every position on the team possible.
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Old 12-25-2008, 05:22 PM   #24
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Like was mentioned earlier, a top tier free agent is not going to sign with the Chiefs unless they make him the highest paid player in the league. Those players can get paid by the good teams, they aren't just going to pick a bad one instead.

Antonio Bryant is the kind of player to look at, he had a breakout year and has all the physical tools, I don't think he'll get giant money either.
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Old 12-25-2008, 05:27 PM   #25
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It'd be nice to hire DeCosta and have him convince Suggs to sign here.
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Old 12-25-2008, 05:36 PM   #26
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You CANNOT pick up cornerstone players in FA. Priest Holmes was really over-rated and actually useless. Casey Weigman was a terrible player who was carried by Brian Waters and Will Shields. Marcus Allen actually hurt the Chiefs. His presence set back this franchise for over a decade. We picked up Rich Gannon in FA, thank God we got rid of that loser before he harmed the team. James Hasty is simply a Chiefs planet myth, created by one play where Marty Schottenheimer kissed his bald head after he intercepted the raiders to produce a touchdown in overtime. Hasty actually ruined the secondary and disrupted team harmony. I can tell few here remember the disaster that was Glenn Parker and how he ruined our offensive line in 1997 and 1998.

Forget about free agents.They're worthless!
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Old 12-25-2008, 05:39 PM   #27
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The FA market is completely different now than it was at the times guys like Hasty got into it...
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Old 12-25-2008, 05:39 PM   #28
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You CANNOT pick up cornerstone players in FA. Priest Holmes was really over-rated and actually useless. Casey Weigman was a terrible player who was carried by Brian Waters and Will Shields. Marcus Allen actually hurt the Chiefs. His presence set back this franchise for over a decade. We picked up Rich Gannon in FA, thank God we got rid of that loser before he harmed the team. James Hasty is simply a Chiefs planet myth, created by one play where Marty Schottenheimer kissed his bald head after he intercepted the raiders to produce a touchdown in overtime. Hasty actually ruined the secondary and disrupted team harmony. I can tell few here remember the disaster that was Glenn Parker and how he ruined our offensive line in 1997 and 1998.

Forget about free agents.They're worthless!
but we didn't win a Super Bowl...(that's what all the Mecca's will say)
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Old 12-25-2008, 05:40 PM   #29
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The FA market is completely different now than it was at the times guys like Hasty got into it...
I don't disagree but it's not like free agency isn't important.
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but we didn't win a Super Bowl...(that's what all the Mecca's will say)
The FA market is nothing like it was in the 90s......sighting guys like Weigman and Holmes is fine know why? The Chiefs signed them as middle and low tier free agents to no money.

The Chiefs biggest problem has been not knowing when to walk away from players, they gave 2 RB's in consecutive situations contracts they shouldn't have.
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