Misc Just got threatened by a.... - Page 2

Coach · 02-21-2009, 10:33 PM

60 year old woman at work.

Here how it went. Every 3rd Wednesday, at a apartment complex that I work at, we have pest control, and we have a guy from a company that comes out and sprays each individual apartments, basically a basic treatment on the covebase/floor areas. My boss went with the pest control guy and we went to this one particitular unit, where our staff had major issues with, since this tenant always gives us problems, such as calling the police on us for no apparent reason, even though she is claiming that somebody is breaking into her apartment.

Now before I go any further, an example would be is that she once claimed that her next door neighbor was trying to break in by climbing on the ceiling from his unit to her unit. Okay, well here are a few problems with that. One is that each unit is seperated by a concrete barrier, so there's no way for the next door neighbor to somehow get on top of his ceiling and climb over to the apartment, unless you do it by jackhammering, which the whole building would have heard it regardless. Also, the ceiling tiles are only supported by wires that are propped into the concerete ceiling, and the weight of the ceiling tiles wouldn't even support a human body, since it would come crashing down and such.

Anyways, she wasn't home during pest control (This is normal, since she's never home anyways during the work week, because she hates us for apparently no reason) so my boss opened the door and let the bug guy spray in her apartment. What happened was that she got home and saw the note on her door knob (this is procedure to let the tenants know that we were in there to do either repairs or inspections, etc) and tore it up, and threw it over the balcony into the atrium area.

Then she went over to the other side of the building to talk to the resident manager who is on duty, and a different tenant overheard the conversation on the floor below. Basically she said to the resident manager "If somebody ever comes into my apartment again, I will get a gun and shoot their asses", and left. Both of those tenants who heard the comment reported to the Director and signed a statement about what happened.

She's now under a 30 day eviction notice.

kstater · 02-22-2009, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

I would imagine the rental contract gives the landlord the right to inspect the apartments and treat them there cockroachs. Therefore ,threatening to blow their shit away for said inspection that is on the same day of every week should be illegal. You should ask a lawyer though.

I'm fairly confident Banyon IS a lawyer.

I'd imagine that you are right as well.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 02-22-2009, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by kstater

I'm fairly confident Banyon IS a lawyer.

I'd imagine that you are right as well.

I know. I was poking fun. HeHe!

BucEyedPea · 02-22-2009, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

I would imagine the rental contract gives the landlord the right to inspect the apartments and treat them there cockroachs. Therefore ,threatening to blow their shit away for said inspection that is on the same day of every week should be illegal. You should ask a lawyer though.

BucEyedPea · 02-22-2009, 08:24 AM

I love those fiesty 'ole ladies. Too bad it wasn't her property though.

Abba-Dabba · 02-22-2009, 08:25 AM

Screw the 30 day eviction notice. Pay the 4 to 5 bills that it takes to get a 3day eviction. Teach the broad a lesson about other than hers property.

**Dartgod** · 02-22-2009, 09:17 AM

Move her in next to Jilly's neighbor.

ohiobronco2 · 02-22-2009, 09:30 AM

My father owns a small plumbing company. We've been in some pretty nasty houses. The worst, by far, was in New Miami, OH. We enter the front gate and there are 6 dog cages on each side of this small lawn. Also, there is misc. junk to the side of the house, looks like the lady attended every garage sell in town and purchased a bunch of crap. So we enter the house to find cats everywhere and the carpeting has been replaced with newspaper. The smell was unreal. We proceed to go upstairs to fix an issue that this lady was having with her shower. Her neighbor, who put the shower in, managed to use soo much glue on this cpvc line that he actually sealed in shut. As we are working, the other lady who lives there comes upstairs and attempts to lie down on a bed which is covered in cat crap. My brother stops her from doing so, but she just grabs the sheet, shakes it off and lies down. Unreal. We also found a dead cat in the basement, crawl space. Can anybody beat that?

**banyon** · 02-22-2009, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach

Threatening physical violence towards a city employee.

Crazy old women mutter stuff all of the time. It's ambiguous that she directly threatened someone and I'm pretty confident there's not a direct term in her lease referring to that. Landlordsfor a while have been trying to expand the scope of the "crime free premises" section of a lease asa catch all to get rid of undesirables.

I won a case pretty much identical to this one time where my client had yelled angrily at the landlords and the police had been called.

I'm not saying you're not right to be seriously sick of this lady, I'm just saying it might not be as easy as you think.

rockchalkgirl · 02-22-2009, 09:33 AM

If it's a month to month lease, no reason required in Kansas.

**banyon** · 02-22-2009, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

I would imagine the rental contract gives the landlord the right to inspect the apartments and treat them there cockroachs. Therefore ,threatening to blow their shit away for said inspection that is on the same day of every week should be illegal. You should ask a lawyer though.

There is also a requirement about reasonable notice prior to entry that is part of the Kansas Residential Landlord Tenant Act even if the people forgot to put it in their lease. It doesn't sound like it's Coach's fault, but the landlord should be telling her 24 hours ahead that they plan on doing this stuff.

**banyon** · 02-22-2009, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Saggysack

Screw the 30 day eviction notice. Pay the 4 to 5 bills that it takes to get a 3day eviction. Teach the broad a lesson about other than hers property.

It doesn't work like that. 3 days if you don't pay, then 30 days if you violate a non-monetary material term of the lease (you also get 14 days to "cure" the breach if that is possible).

Abba-Dabba · 02-22-2009, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banyon

It doesn't work like that. 3 days if you don't pay, then 30 days if you violate a non-monetary material term of the lease (you also get 14 days to "cure" the breach if that is possible).

Post reminds me of how many times I have been evicted.

**Bwana** · 02-22-2009, 10:06 AM

Bird Bombs!

cardken · 02-22-2009, 10:11 AM

Having worked in numerous states in the Property Management business (Kansas, Missouri, Kentucky, Arkansas and Nevada), the laws vary from state to state as regards eviction policy. In most all those states the best course of action is to offer them a flat out release from their agreement. Most people back down in the thought of moving. Secondly, you refuse to renew their lease at end of term. This is a right of the Management company has in all states.
IT takes all kinds and unfortunately I've observed most Apartment Complexes are glorified "Institutions", not that all who live in these domiciles are "nuts" but there is a fair share of them. What most of these loons fail to realize is they are "Renting/leasing" the unit and have not purchased it. They don't have the same rights of a property owner. I've had numerous experiances in my past, it's interesting if nothing else. I've had guns drawn on me, and dogs poised to attack. But most people are pretty understanding an d read their lease and understand you have to enter apartments with notice to do preventive maintenance unless other arrangements are made. Emergency entrance has to be made in cases of flood, electrical or fire.
I no longer work in Property Management on the apartment side, I'm working in the Adult Health Care field, this is a whole different jar of "nuts".

Coach · 02-25-2009, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banyon

Crazy old women mutter stuff all of the time. It's ambiguous that she directly threatened someone and I'm pretty confident there's not a direct term in her lease referring to that. Landlordsfor a while have been trying to expand the scope of the "crime free premises" section of a lease asa catch all to get rid of undesirables.

I won a case pretty much identical to this one time where my client had yelled angrily at the landlords and the police had been called.

I'm not saying you're not right to be seriously sick of this lady, I'm just saying it might not be as easy as you think.

The property isn't privately owned. It's owned by the City. Plus, the lease is written up by the Housing Urban Department. And by law, by the HUD standards,

Secton 9

Occupancy of the Premises and Tenant’s Obligations

Tenant SHALL:

Not permit household members or guests to act or speak in an abusive or threatening manner.

Section 10

CRIMINAL ACTIVITY

Criminal Activity includes, but is not limited to, any of the following:

Physical assault or the threat of physical assault, Illegal use of a firearm or other weapon, or the threat to use a firearm or other weapon

Sexual molestation, sexual molestation of a minor, prostitution,and other similar or related sexual misconduct.

Any breach of this lease provision by the tenant, his/herhousehold member(s) or guest(s) shall be cause for termination of the Lease if PMHA believes, in good faith,that a breach has occurred.

A breach of this covenant constitutes a serious and clear danger to the health and safety of other tenants, persons residing in the vicinity and employees of PMHA. It shall be PMHA’s duty, in any eviction proceedings, to prove that a breach of this covenant has occurred.

So, yes, it's easy as I think, because she has broken her lease agreement by law, and 4 people have signed an statement that the incident occured.

http://www.hud.gov/offices/pih/progr...phtraining.pdf

02-21-2009, 10:33 PM
Coach Champs! Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $3768476	Just got threatened by a.... 60 year old woman at work. Here how it went. Every 3rd Wednesday, at a apartment complex that I work at, we have pest control, and we have a guy from a company that comes out and sprays each individual apartments, basically a basic treatment on the covebase/floor areas. My boss went with the pest control guy and we went to this one particitular unit, where our staff had major issues with, since this tenant always gives us problems, such as calling the police on us for no apparent reason, even though she is claiming that somebody is breaking into her apartment. Now before I go any further, an example would be is that she once claimed that her next door neighbor was trying to break in by climbing on the ceiling from his unit to her unit. Okay, well here are a few problems with that. One is that each unit is seperated by a concrete barrier, so there's no way for the next door neighbor to somehow get on top of his ceiling and climb over to the apartment, unless you do it by jackhammering, which the whole building would have heard it regardless. Also, the ceiling tiles are only supported by wires that are propped into the concerete ceiling, and the weight of the ceiling tiles wouldn't even support a human body, since it would come crashing down and such. Anyways, she wasn't home during pest control (This is normal, since she's never home anyways during the work week, because she hates us for apparently no reason) so my boss opened the door and let the bug guy spray in her apartment. What happened was that she got home and saw the note on her door knob (this is procedure to let the tenants know that we were in there to do either repairs or inspections, etc) and tore it up, and threw it over the balcony into the atrium area. Then she went over to the other side of the building to talk to the resident manager who is on duty, and a different tenant overheard the conversation on the floor below. Basically she said to the resident manager "If somebody ever comes into my apartment again, I will get a gun and shoot their asses", and left. Both of those tenants who heard the comment reported to the Director and signed a statement about what happened. She's now under a 30 day eviction notice.
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02-22-2009, 08:25 AM	#20
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02-22-2009, 09:17 AM	#21
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02-22-2009, 09:30 AM	#22
ohiobronco2 Veteran Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Upper Arlington, OH Casino cash: $7065685	My father owns a small plumbing company. We've been in some pretty nasty houses. The worst, by far, was in New Miami, OH. We enter the front gate and there are 6 dog cages on each side of this small lawn. Also, there is misc. junk to the side of the house, looks like the lady attended every garage sell in town and purchased a bunch of crap. So we enter the house to find cats everywhere and the carpeting has been replaced with newspaper. The smell was unreal. We proceed to go upstairs to fix an issue that this lady was having with her shower. Her neighbor, who put the shower in, managed to use soo much glue on this cpvc line that he actually sealed in shut. As we are working, the other lady who lives there comes upstairs and attempts to lie down on a bed which is covered in cat crap. My brother stops her from doing so, but she just grabs the sheet, shakes it off and lies down. Unreal. We also found a dead cat in the basement, crawl space. Can anybody beat that?
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02-22-2009, 09:33 AM	#24
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02-22-2009, 10:11 AM	#29
cardken Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	Having worked in numerous states in the Property Management business (Kansas, Missouri, Kentucky, Arkansas and Nevada), the laws vary from state to state as regards eviction policy. In most all those states the best course of action is to offer them a flat out release from their agreement. Most people back down in the thought of moving. Secondly, you refuse to renew their lease at end of term. This is a right of the Management company has in all states. IT takes all kinds and unfortunately I've observed most Apartment Complexes are glorified "Institutions", not that all who live in these domiciles are "nuts" but there is a fair share of them. What most of these loons fail to realize is they are "Renting/leasing" the unit and have not purchased it. They don't have the same rights of a property owner. I've had numerous experiances in my past, it's interesting if nothing else. I've had guns drawn on me, and dogs poised to attack. But most people are pretty understanding an d read their lease and understand you have to enter apartments with notice to do preventive maintenance unless other arrangements are made. Emergency entrance has to be made in cases of flood, electrical or fire. I no longer work in Property Management on the apartment side, I'm working in the Adult Health Care field, this is a whole different jar of "nuts".
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