Football The(Denver)Song That Never Ends, pt14.5 - Page 2

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-18-2009, 03:14 PM

Put Up Your Dukes
Players, media have trust issues with McDaniels

Posted: July 16th, 2009 | Jamie Dukes |

Jay Cutler isn’t the only player who has developed trust issues
with first-year Broncos coach Josh McDaniels.
A few other players have privately expressed concern, and the media has
joined the chorus in feeling that McDaniels has a problem with honesty.
Cutler, who’s now a Chicago Bear, said his rationale for wanting a
trade out of Denver was because McDaniels refused to be honest with him
about his role in pursuing Matt Cassel. According to
Cutler, McDaniels continued to deny his role even when confronted with
incontrovertible evidence that he had tried to trade for Cassel, his
pupil in New England.

But this trust issue goes beyond players and extends to the Denver media.
In June, Broncos WR Brandon Marshall met with Broncos owner
Pat Bowlen to discuss his future. In that meeting, according to Marshall,
Bowlen said he wouldn’t stand in the way of the receiver being traded to another team.

Later that afternoon, reporters questioned McDaniels about whether he had met with Marshall.
According to Mike Klis of The Denver Post, McDaniels said, “We met after Pat’s meeting with Brandon,
and we are going to continue our dialogue with Brandon and his representatives.”
Within subsequent days, KDVR-TV in Denver received a tip that
McDaniels wasn’t being forthright and challenged him on his statement.
Presented with the report, McDaniels admitted that he DID NOT meet with Marshall.

Some would say this is no big deal, but trust is the cornerstone of
this society. We need to be able to trust our government. Trust is
essential to marriage and relationships. We need to be able to trust
our children. We need to be able to trust our friends.

As a former NFL player, I can tell you that trust is the foundation
between the player and the coach. When players trust their coach, they
play at another level. Unfortunately, truthfulness seems to be a
character trait that Bill Belichick didn’t pass down to young McDaniels.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 07-18-2009, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange

Almost as miserable a life as Jamie Dukes who has nothing better to "report" about than month-old articles...

... but not quite as miserable a life as Chiefs fans who have nothing better to hope for or expect than the demise of their rivals.

Cooooooooooooooome Ooooooooooooooooooonnn. If you don't hope for the blood of your enemies, you're not devoted to your cause.

**PHOG** · 07-18-2009, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange

Almost as miserable a life as Jamie Dukes who has nothing better to "report" about than month-old articles...

... but not quite as miserable a life as Chiefs fans who have nothing better to hope for or expect than the demise of their rivals.

Keep talking

**The Bad Guy** · 07-18-2009, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange

Almost as miserable a life as Jamie Dukes who has nothing better to "report" about than month-old articles...

... but not quite as miserable a life as Chiefs fans who have nothing better to hope for or expect than the demise of their rivals.

Get off your high horse. If the Chiefs were in this position, you'd be laughing it up with all the other douchebags on OrangeMane.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 07-18-2009, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Get off your high horse. If the Chiefs were in this position, you'd be laughing it up with all the other douchebags on OrangeMane.

Don't chuck the Mane up to Orange. They're the WPI of Broncodom as far as he's concerned.

That's still one of the best lines I've heard around here.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-18-2009, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Cooooooooooooooome Ooooooooooooooooooonnn. If you don't hope for the blood of your enemies, you're not devoted to your cause.

Don't forget retribution. They've got a SHITLOAD of that headed their way.

orange · 07-18-2009, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Get off your high horse. If the Chiefs were in this position, you'd be laughing it up with all the other douchebags on OrangeMane.

I'd be laughing at current miseries, but this is old hash.

My ~~horse~~ bronco isn't all that high - not lately, anyway.

BigRock · 07-19-2009, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I was wondering, I know you were in Dove Valley at one of the mandatory practices, what are your impressions of Josh McDaniels, and how is the team responding to him?

WOW! Tell us more, Rod Smith!

**BossChief** · 07-19-2009, 02:15 AM

Knowmo, you fail to mention Marshall on nfln and when they asked him about if he expects to be traded how big of a smile he gave and then reverted to "my agent takes care of all that stuff" ....or when they asked him if he would be wearing #15 for the Broncos and he responded by saying "I can say Ill definatly be wearing #15" lol.....or when they asked him about trading Cutler and he said something like "losing a probowl quarterback is never good" instead of sticking up for the new qb...or when they asked him how he would feel now that his stats will go down because of a dropoff at qb and he didnt say anything, just smiled again. Like he is still shellshocked about the whole deal.

Id give up a 2 and change for the kid...

Quesadilla Joe · 07-19-2009, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Knowmo, you fail to mention Marshall on nfln and when they asked him about if he expects to be traded how big of a smile he gave and then reverted to "my agent takes care of all that stuff" ....or when they asked him if he would be wearing #15 for the Broncos and he responded by saying "I can say Ill definatly be wearing #15" lol.....or when they asked him about trading Cutler and he said something like "losing a probowl quarterback is never good" instead of sticking up for the new qb...or when they asked him how he would feel now that his stats will go down because of a dropoff at qb and he didnt say anything, just smiled again. Like he is still shellshocked about the whole deal.

Id give up a 2 and change for the kid...

You also failed to mention him calling Orton a "Great QB"

Mile High Mania · 07-19-2009, 05:56 AM

There's nothing new in this initial post... it's the same thing Dukes says on every espisode of NFLA.

**the Talking Can** · 07-19-2009, 06:04 AM

so, McDaniels has admitted to lying to his players?

Mile High Mania · 07-19-2009, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

so, McDaniels has admitted to lying to his players?

I'm saying that this stuff from Dukes has been commented on already... when I clicked on the thread that was created yesterday, I was expecting something new.

**the Talking Can** · 07-19-2009, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I'm saying that this stuff from Dukes has been commented on already... when I clicked on the thread that was created yesterday, I was expecting something new.

i just hadn't heard the bit about lying about meeting with marshall

seems like a pointless lie to tell.....

without McTeenager this offseason would infinitely less fun for Chiefs fans...

**The Bad Guy** · 07-19-2009, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

You also failed to mention him calling Orton a "Great QB"

Tony Gonzalez called Tyler Thigpen a great QB too.

orange · 07-19-2009, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

so, McDaniels has admitted to lying to his players?

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

i just hadn't heard the bit about lying about meeting with marshall

seems like a pointless lie to tell.....

without McTeenager this offseason would infinitely less fun for Chiefs fans...

McDaniels didn't lie. Dukes is an idiot.

Here's the original from Williamson:

Broncos coach Josh McDaniels would not say whether Marshall requested a trade, but he told ESPN's Ed Werder on Tuesday that internal meetings conducted after the holdout receiver's discussions with Bowlen suggest Denver plans to keep the player.

"We met after Pat's meeting with Brandon Marshall, and we've decided that we will continue to have a dialogue with Brandon and his representative, but we are looking forward to having Brandon at training camp," McDaniels said to Werder.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4261327

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And here's the scandalous "admission" according to Dukes:

Presented with the report, McDaniels admitted that he DID NOT meet with Marshall.

Which was ACTUALLY this:

* When Fox 31 Sports asked Josh McDaniels if he followed through on his statement yesterday at practice that he was meeting with Marshall later on that day, McDaniels admitted today he in fact did not meet with his disgruntled pro bowl wide receiver Friday. McDaniels now confirms that Marshall only met with owner Pat Bowlen.

http://community.kdvr.com/_BRONCOS-B...692/96399.html

So, McDaniels "admitted" he never had a meeting with Marshall THAT HE NEVER CLAIMED HE HAD.

07-18-2009, 03:14 PM
Sweet Daddy Hate Unsparing Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	The(Denver)Song That Never Ends, pt14.5 Put Up Your Dukes Players, media have trust issues with McDaniels Posted: July 16th, 2009 \| Jamie Dukes \| Jay Cutler isn’t the only player who has developed trust issues with first-year Broncos coach Josh McDaniels. A few other players have privately expressed concern, and the media has joined the chorus in feeling that McDaniels has a problem with honesty. Cutler, who’s now a Chicago Bear, said his rationale for wanting a trade out of Denver was because McDaniels refused to be honest with him about his role in pursuing Matt Cassel. According to Cutler, McDaniels continued to deny his role even when confronted with incontrovertible evidence that he had tried to trade for Cassel, his pupil in New England. But this trust issue goes beyond players and extends to the Denver media. In June, Broncos WR Brandon Marshall met with Broncos owner Pat Bowlen to discuss his future. In that meeting, according to Marshall, Bowlen said he wouldn’t stand in the way of the receiver being traded to another team. Later that afternoon, reporters questioned McDaniels about whether he had met with Marshall. According to Mike Klis of The Denver Post, McDaniels said, “We met after Pat’s meeting with Brandon, and we are going to continue our dialogue with Brandon and his representatives.” Within subsequent days, KDVR-TV in Denver received a tip that McDaniels wasn’t being forthright and challenged him on his statement. Presented with the report, McDaniels admitted that he DID NOT meet with Marshall. Some would say this is no big deal, but trust is the cornerstone of this society. We need to be able to trust our government. Trust is essential to marriage and relationships. We need to be able to trust our children. We need to be able to trust our friends. As a former NFL player, I can tell you that trust is the foundation between the player and the coach. When players trust their coach, they play at another level. Unfortunately, truthfulness seems to be a character trait that Bill Belichick didn’t pass down to young McDaniels.
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1565912	Knowmo, you fail to mention Marshall on nfln and when they asked him about if he expects to be traded how big of a smile he gave and then reverted to "my agent takes care of all that stuff" ....or when they asked him if he would be wearing #15 for the Broncos and he responded by saying "I can say Ill definatly be wearing #15" lol.....or when they asked him about trading Cutler and he said something like "losing a probowl quarterback is never good" instead of sticking up for the new qb...or when they asked him how he would feel now that his stats will go down because of a dropoff at qb and he didnt say anything, just smiled again. Like he is still shellshocked about the whole deal. Id give up a 2 and change for the kid... __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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