Chiefs Cassel injured - who dunnit? - Page 2

**the Talking Can** · 08-30-2009, 04:01 AM

it's a simple dl stunt and we look like idiots

allday28 · 08-30-2009, 04:01 AM

i am a huge vikings fan so i love watching the chiefs implode and blow game after game over stupid shit. they spend money on wash ups like mcintosh and zach thomas. they needed to upgrade the oline and db and didnt even adress those problems and now they are seeing their o line fold like a lawn chair its fun to watch but its sad

FloridaMan88 · 08-30-2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by allday28

i am a huge vikings fan so i love watching the chiefs implode and blow game after game over stupid shit. they spend money on wash ups like mcintosh and zach thomas. they needed to upgrade the oline and db and didnt even adress those problems and now they are seeing their o line fold like a lawn chair its fun to watch but its sad

As a Viqueen fan you know a thing or two about spending money on washed up veterans... $25 million for 75 year old Brett Favre anyone?

KcFanInGA · 08-30-2009, 06:41 PM

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As a Viqueen fan you know a thing or two about spending money on washed up veterans... $25 million for 75 year old Brett Favre anyone?

I heard Adrian Peterson fumbled a handoff when he tripped over Farve's wheelchair footrest.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-31-2009, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by allday28

i am a huge vikings fan so i love watching the chiefs implode and blow game after game over stupid shit. they spend money on wash ups like mcintosh and zach thomas. they needed to upgrade the oline and db and didnt even adress those problems and now they are seeing their o line fold like a lawn chair its fun to watch but its sad

Kind of like the Vikings attempt at being a championship contending team without a legit QB? Might want to rethink the old washup comment with ole gray beard behind center.

mylittlepony · 08-30-2009, 04:16 AM

And to think Jonathan Luigs was just sitting there in the 4th round BPA. Oh well. Im sure the Center position is going to be that deep next year again right?

milkman · 08-30-2009, 05:53 AM

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And to think Jonathan Luigs was just sitting there in the 4th round BPA. Oh well. Im sure the Center position is going to be that deep next year again right?

And Jamon Meredith in the 5th.

Luigs at center, kick Niswanger out to RG, and Meredith at RT and this line would not be near the disaster it is right now.

milkman · 08-30-2009, 05:58 AM

Here's what I want to know.

You have an older, decending RG in Goff.
Why, at the snap do the Chiefs have him runnning to the left side of the formation, where he doesn't do anything but stand there like an idiot blocking no one?

Mebane split that double team practically before Niswanger and McIntosh come out of their stances.

keg in kc · 08-30-2009, 07:22 AM

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Why, at the snap do the Chiefs have him runnning to the left side of the formation

I don't know the playbook, but my guess is because it's play action and they're trying to sell it as a run left. Seattle doesn't seem to bite at all, so we're left with more blockers than bodies to block. Note that Albert doesn't touch anyone on the play either, and ends up all the way down the line apparently in pursuit of 90.

I don't know that the injury was anyone in particular's fault.

milkman · 08-30-2009, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I don't know the playbook, but my guess is because it's play action and they're trying to sell it as a run left. Seattle doesn't seem to bite at all, so we're left with more blockers than bodies to block. Note that Albert doesn't touch anyone on the play either, and ends up all the way down the line apparently in pursuit of 90.

I don't know that the injury was anyone in particular's fault.

Actually, the question was rhetorical, just to get a shot at Goff.

The actual point was the fact that McIntosh and Niswanger both were slow to come out of their stances and get after the block.

Getting out of their stances slow, for both of them, has been a consistent problem and a primary reason they are getting their asses whipped on a regular basis.

Pioli Zombie · 08-30-2009, 06:11 AM

Cassel isn't hurt. Its a conspiracy by the evil Obama Administration to point out the need for Universal Health care.
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Norman Einstein · 08-30-2009, 07:17 AM

It didn't seem, in slow motion, to be an excessively illegal hit. Just one of those that happens.

I agree the OL still sucks. I do question the OL coach, why is it that with all that beef they can't get them to follow directions? If you disect the problem we either have all but one of our OL that suck or the OL coach sucks. At this level I'd be looking for an OL coach that can patch things together. Where's Art Shell when you need him?

**bevischief** · 08-30-2009, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Cassel isn't hurt. Its a conspiracy by the evil Obama Administration to point out the need for Universal Health care.
Posted via Mobile Device

Buzzsaw · 08-30-2009, 08:05 PM

The sad thing is that after watching this a few times you can tell that it's a well-designed play. Cassell does a good job of selling the fake handoff, you can see the linebackers are frozen for a second or two. If the protection was there that type of play can be an easy six points.

donkhater · 08-30-2009, 07:22 AM

It seems to be assignment problems with these guys. Last week, on a running play, LJ got stuff behind the line when there was a clear hole to run through. Hell, he may have scored. But a LB went right up the middle to tackle him in the backfield despite showing that he was blitzing right over the center's nose. The center decided it would be beter to double team the guard AWAY from the flow of the play even though Waters had him blocked fine and the LBwas right there. Just a chip would've done it, but it looked as if he didn't even see him.

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Norman Einstein MVP Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Casino cash: $10004900	It didn't seem, in slow motion, to be an excessively illegal hit. Just one of those that happens. I agree the OL still sucks. I do question the OL coach, why is it that with all that beef they can't get them to follow directions? If you disect the problem we either have all but one of our OL that suck or the OL coach sucks. At this level I'd be looking for an OL coach that can patch things together. Where's Art Shell when you need him?
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Buzzsaw Starter Join Date: May 2005 Casino cash: $10004900	The sad thing is that after watching this a few times you can tell that it's a well-designed play. Cassell does a good job of selling the fake handoff, you can see the linebackers are frozen for a second or two. If the protection was there that type of play can be an easy six points.
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donkhater Brilliant!! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Indiana, USA Casino cash: $10014051	It seems to be assignment problems with these guys. Last week, on a running play, LJ got stuff behind the line when there was a clear hole to run through. Hell, he may have scored. But a LB went right up the middle to tackle him in the backfield despite showing that he was blitzing right over the center's nose. The center decided it would be beter to double team the guard AWAY from the flow of the play even though Waters had him blocked fine and the LBwas right there. Just a chip would've done it, but it looked as if he didn't even see him. __________________ The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants
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