Life For you smokers out there - Page 2

Hog's Gone Fishin · 09-30-2009, 07:09 PM

Anybody tried this: A healthy cig that doesnt contain any carcinogens, chemicals ,nasty smelling smoke. I don't smoke but my wife smokes like a porn star sucking the lube off a giant penis. This would be wonderful if its legit!

http://www.usnews9.com/?t202id=41956&t202kw=smkads1

InChiefsHeaven · 10-01-2009, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Tylerthigpen!1!

I have in fact used it. It costs a pretty penny just for the main unit. Somewhere between the 100-200 dollar range. Then you have to buy filters which contains the nicotine. If i remember right one filter is the equivalent of two packs of cigs. The salesman said it eventually saves you money.

So, is it really like smoking a cigarette? Is it harsh or just weird? Did you keep using it, or go back to cigarettes? How much were the filters?

I need to know man!!

damaticous · 10-01-2009, 06:48 AM

I have been using mine for about 4 months now. Haven't smoked a regular cig since.

The main points to note are...

1. if you spend over $50 for a kit you are getting ripped off. Smoking Everywhere is the worst rip off, but other companies are ripping people off now too.
2. Go to http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com. TONS of info...almost too much. Remember though, just like this board, there are a lot of opinions so take all OPINIONS with a grain of salt.
3. I've ordered from 5-6 different vendors. The best ones I've found in costs and time to ship are Midwest Vapor (in kansas), and Rocky Mountain Vapor i(n Colorado).

As for use...
1. Yes it's like a regular (analog) cigarette. You only get the nicotine. none of the other crap.
2. There are small traces of carcinagens in the ecig. But it is widely known to be a "Safer" alternative to smoking.
3. There is a learning curve. it takes a few days to get used to "smoking" (we prefer the word "vaping" on it.
4. It's more tedious that regular cigs. Charging batteries, making sure you have enough extra liquid, batteries and atomizers.

Where to start
1. Look at the web site above. More info than you'll ever need.
2. Look at the vendors I recommended. Others are good, but these 2 seem to work best for me.
3. I started with a M401. Mistake. I wish I would have started with a DSE901. Would have saved a lot of time and aggrivation. So, obvousily, I recommend a DSE901 for people starting out.

Yes, you can really vape in places you can't smoke. I've vaped in KCI, Denver and Seattle Airport, in the plane to the airports, in my office, home, etc, etc. I've been asked by security about it a few times and just told them it was an ecig or personal vaporizer. They all have been cool with it.

The cool thing is that it's easy to hide if you want. Just put your hand over the LED at the end and either blow the vapor down towards your shoes, in your shirt, or you can hold it in. if you hold it in for about 20 seconds and exhale you don't get any vapor.

So to say that I'm impressed and like the whole idea would be a gross understatement. My girlfriend doesn't smoke and especially likes that I don't stink and don't have to go outside once an hour to smoke.

tiptap · 10-01-2009, 06:55 AM

So it is like fiddling with a pipe for your nicotine habit?

tiptap · 10-01-2009, 06:58 AM

Nicotine itself has adverse properties related to cancer. The question for public use is just how much nicotine is introduced into the area. After all you do eventually exhale and with that supposedly vapor the nicotine into the area.

damaticous · 10-01-2009, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tiptap

Nicotine itself has adverse properties related to cancer. The question for public use is just how much nicotine is introduced into the area. After all you do eventually exhale and with that supposedly vapor the nicotine into the area.

Wrong. It's a common misguided notion that Nicotine causes cancer. It's not the nicotine that causes cancer it's all the other chemicals in the smoke.

A personal vaporizer has much lower nicotine per drag than a regular cig. The body (mouth, throat, lungs) absorb most of this nicotime during vaping. So when you exhale you are releasing mostly Propalyne Glycol (PG) which is the same stuff used in fog machines used for theatrical performances or clubs.

damaticous · 10-01-2009, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tiptap

So it is like fiddling with a pipe for your nicotine habit?

It's like smoking, but you get very little carcinagens compared to smoking a real cig. I inhale the vapor from the ecig. When I smoke a pipe I don't inhale.

damaticous · 10-01-2009, 07:28 AM

from Wikipidea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine

The carcinogenic properties of nicotine in standalone form, separate from tobacco smoke, have not been evaluated by the IARC, and it has not been assigned to an official carcinogen group. The currently available literature indicates that nicotine, on its own, does not promote the development of cancer in healthy tissue and has no mutagenic properties. However, nicotine and the increased cholinergic activity it causes have been shown to impede apoptosis, which is one of the methods by which the body destroys unwanted cells (programmed cell death). Since apoptosis helps to remove mutated or damaged cells that may eventually become cancerous, the inhibitory actions of nicotine may create a more favourable environment for cancer to develop, though this also remains to be proven.[43][unreliable source?]

Hog's Gone Fishin · 10-01-2009, 07:55 AM

Thanks damaticous, that is good info. I think I'll show the wife and hope she'll give it a try.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 10-01-2009, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

HERETIC! BLASPHEMER!!!!

Oh, I don't know. I don't think I'll quit smoking completely, but having an option to blow in people's faces in restaurants is becoming more appealing by the day.

**Skip Towne** · 10-01-2009, 08:20 AM

I ordered the free one. It only cost $9.95. Did anybody else do that?

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 10-01-2009, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

I ordered the free one. It only cost $9.95. Did anybody else do that?

I didn't even notice that.

**Skip Towne** · 10-01-2009, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I didn't even notice that.

It is in post 17 in #2.

damaticous · 10-01-2009, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne

I ordered the free one. It only cost $9.95. Did anybody else do that?

Might want to read the fine print.

From my understanding of that company they will rip you off.

They will pull a "Free Credit Report.com" type of thing. They get your CC number when you order. You receive your "free" ecig with a few carts. Then they will automatically send you carts and charge your CC outragous prices. Then when you try to call and cancel it's a pain in the butt or they make it really difficult to cancel.

Be careful!!!!

When I was curious I did a little research and came up with a disposable ecig. It cost a a little more than expected, but it gave me a good idea of ecigs. I did the following and it worked as advertised.

http://www.ecigaretteschoice.com/pro...Cigarette.html

Earthling · 10-01-2009, 08:58 AM

I've used these before...my sister in law has one and that is all she smokes now. (After more than 30 years of smoking in her case) I'm thinking about getting one for myself as well...The drag you get on these is really like hitting on a regular cig. The only problem I see is having to add the nicotine drops to the filter on occasion. Not that big of a deal there though.

**Skip Towne** · 10-01-2009, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damaticous

Might want to read the fine print.

From my understanding of that company they will rip you off.

They will pull a "Free Credit Report.com" type of thing. They get your CC number when you order. You receive your "free" ecig with a few carts. Then they will automatically send you carts and charge your CC outragous prices. Then when you try to call and cancel it's a pain in the butt or they make it really difficult to cancel.

Be careful!!!!

When I was curious I did a little research and came up with a disposable ecig. It cost a a little more than expected, but it gave me a good idea of ecigs. I did the following and it worked as advertised.

http://www.ecigaretteschoice.com/pro...Cigarette.html

Thanks for the heads up. My card is about to expire so I'll just go get a new card after the initial charge.

09-30-2009, 07:09 PM
Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1429523	For you smokers out there Anybody tried this: A healthy cig that doesnt contain any carcinogens, chemicals ,nasty smelling smoke. I don't smoke but my wife smokes like a porn star sucking the lube off a giant penis. This would be wonderful if its legit! http://www.usnews9.com/?t202id=41956&t202kw=smkads1
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10-01-2009, 06:48 AM	#17
damaticous lurker Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: home Casino cash: $9959900	I have been using mine for about 4 months now. Haven't smoked a regular cig since. The main points to note are... 1. if you spend over $50 for a kit you are getting ripped off. Smoking Everywhere is the worst rip off, but other companies are ripping people off now too. 2. Go to http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com. TONS of info...almost too much. Remember though, just like this board, there are a lot of opinions so take all OPINIONS with a grain of salt. 3. I've ordered from 5-6 different vendors. The best ones I've found in costs and time to ship are Midwest Vapor (in kansas), and Rocky Mountain Vapor i(n Colorado). As for use... 1. Yes it's like a regular (analog) cigarette. You only get the nicotine. none of the other crap. 2. There are small traces of carcinagens in the ecig. But it is widely known to be a "Safer" alternative to smoking. 3. There is a learning curve. it takes a few days to get used to "smoking" (we prefer the word "vaping" on it. 4. It's more tedious that regular cigs. Charging batteries, making sure you have enough extra liquid, batteries and atomizers. Where to start 1. Look at the web site above. More info than you'll ever need. 2. Look at the vendors I recommended. Others are good, but these 2 seem to work best for me. 3. I started with a M401. Mistake. I wish I would have started with a DSE901. Would have saved a lot of time and aggrivation. So, obvousily, I recommend a DSE901 for people starting out. Yes, you can really vape in places you can't smoke. I've vaped in KCI, Denver and Seattle Airport, in the plane to the airports, in my office, home, etc, etc. I've been asked by security about it a few times and just told them it was an ecig or personal vaporizer. They all have been cool with it. The cool thing is that it's easy to hide if you want. Just put your hand over the LED at the end and either blow the vapor down towards your shoes, in your shirt, or you can hold it in. if you hold it in for about 20 seconds and exhale you don't get any vapor. So to say that I'm impressed and like the whole idea would be a gross understatement. My girlfriend doesn't smoke and especially likes that I don't stink and don't have to go outside once an hour to smoke.
Posts: 1,358

10-01-2009, 06:55 AM	#18
tiptap Is this it? Join Date: Jan 2004 Casino cash: $10007847	So it is like fiddling with a pipe for your nicotine habit? __________________ Even a superstitious man has certain inalienable rights. He has a right to harbor and indulge his imbecilities as long as he pleases. . . He has a right to argue for them as eloquently as he can, in season and out of season. He has a right to teach them to his children. But certainly he has no right to be protected against the free criticism of those who do not hold them. He has no right to demand that they be treated as sacred. He has no right to preach them without challenge." -H.L. Mencken
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10-01-2009, 06:58 AM	#19
tiptap Is this it? Join Date: Jan 2004 Casino cash: $10007847	Nicotine itself has adverse properties related to cancer. The question for public use is just how much nicotine is introduced into the area. After all you do eventually exhale and with that supposedly vapor the nicotine into the area. __________________ Even a superstitious man has certain inalienable rights. He has a right to harbor and indulge his imbecilities as long as he pleases. . . He has a right to argue for them as eloquently as he can, in season and out of season. He has a right to teach them to his children. But certainly he has no right to be protected against the free criticism of those who do not hold them. He has no right to demand that they be treated as sacred. He has no right to preach them without challenge." -H.L. Mencken
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10-01-2009, 07:28 AM	#22
damaticous lurker Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: home Casino cash: $9959900	from Wikipidea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine The carcinogenic properties of nicotine in standalone form, separate from tobacco smoke, have not been evaluated by the IARC, and it has not been assigned to an official carcinogen group. The currently available literature indicates that nicotine, on its own, does not promote the development of cancer in healthy tissue and has no mutagenic properties. However, nicotine and the increased cholinergic activity it causes have been shown to impede apoptosis, which is one of the methods by which the body destroys unwanted cells (programmed cell death). Since apoptosis helps to remove mutated or damaged cells that may eventually become cancerous, the inhibitory actions of nicotine may create a more favourable environment for cancer to develop, though this also remains to be proven.[43][unreliable source?]
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10-01-2009, 07:55 AM	#23
Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1429523	Thanks damaticous, that is good info. I think I'll show the wife and hope she'll give it a try.
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10-01-2009, 08:20 AM	#25
Skip Towne Supporter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: T-Town Casino cash: $10004900	I ordered the free one. It only cost $9.95. Did anybody else do that?
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10-01-2009, 08:58 AM	#29
Earthling MVP Join Date: Apr 2001 Casino cash: $10008447	I've used these before...my sister in law has one and that is all she smokes now. (After more than 30 years of smoking in her case) I'm thinking about getting one for myself as well...The drag you get on these is really like hitting on a regular cig. The only problem I see is having to add the nicotine drops to the filter on occasion. Not that big of a deal there though.
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