Chiefs Pollard didnt like being cursed out. - Page 2

**chiefforlife** · 08:38 AM

Bernard Pollard didn't like Chiefs' coaches' cursing
Posted by Michael David Smith on November 8, 2009 9:17 AM ET
Texans safety Bernard Pollard started all 16 games for the Chiefs in 2008, but he ended up in Houston after Kansas City cut him just before the start of the 2009 season.

Pollard describes getting cut by the Chiefs as a shock, but he says he thinks he knows what the problem was: He wouldn't put up with new coach Todd Haley and his staff cursing him out.

"With professional athletes, you're dealing with grown men. You're not dealing with boys," Pollard tells the Journal Gazette. "You're not in a locker room with sophomores in high school. You're dealing with grown men with families. I have a wife. I have a son. And I have a daughter on the way. I'm not going to sit there and let you curse me out when you feel like cursing me out or talk to me any way you want to talk to me, and you just want me to sit and take it and say, 'Yes, coach.'"

As ArrowheadPride.com notes, Pollard had a shouting match with Chiefs defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast during training camp, leading to Pollard being sent off the field. Apparently that was not just one isolated incident.

But from Pollard's perspective, it's all worked out. Now he's a starter in Houston.

"I respect others because that's what I want in return," Pollard says. "It was shocking to get let go, but I'm a Texan, and I'm happy to be one."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...aches-cursing/

stevieray · 11-08-2009, 09:54 AM

thank you ESPN..you've convinced the players they are bigger than the game.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-08-2009, 10:01 AM

I'm anxiously awaiting all the responses criticizing Haley for this.

I'm also growing tired of these professional athletes that think they are above the game. I'm sure Deacon Jones got his ass ripped in practice, but he didn't turn into a huge pussy and cry about it.

It's really becoming a joke anymore.

Football is becoming so pussified that I can't imagine it sustaining it's national appeal for a long time.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-08-2009, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife

"I respect others because that's what I want in return," Pollard says. "It was shocking to get let go, but I'm a Texan, and I'm happy to be one."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...aches-cursing/

I love how it's not respect if you get your ass chewed out. If I screw up at my job, my principal will chew my ass out. That doesn't mean there is a disrepect going on.

I just give up already.

I'm glad you are a Texan too Bernard. I'm sure Peyton Manning will be as well in about 2 hours when the whole middle of the field is wide open.

**Bwana** · 11-08-2009, 10:05 AM

Wow, sandy much?

**morphius** · 11-08-2009, 10:10 AM

In other words, he really believed that Herm's approach was really working, lmao.

**SAUTO** · 11-08-2009, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I love how it's not respect if you get your ass chewed out. If I screw up at my job, my principal will chew my ass out. That doesn't mean there is a disrepect going on.

I just give up already.

I'm glad you are a Texan too Bernard. I'm sure Peyton Manning will be as well in about 2 hours when the whole middle of the field is wide open.

THIS.

homey · 11-08-2009, 10:17 AM

pretty obvious haley can not motivate his players.

Agent V · 11-08-2009, 10:21 AM

Damn straight, Bad Guy. I'm sure Pollard will get plenty of ass-chewing today when Manning ****s him and the rest of the Texans defense into submission.

And futhermore, you EARN respect in football. The way Pollard played for KC before he was cut should have embarrassed him. I liked when Haley yelled "don't let me break you" at Bowe after a touchdown. Obviously, Pollard broke.

Fish · 11-08-2009, 10:22 AM

Shocking revelation.....

**The Bad Guy** · 11-08-2009, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homey

pretty obvious haley can not motivate his players.

Yeah, he sure had a hard time motivating the Arizona Cardinals.

You know why they can't be motivated? Because they were told their shit didn't stink for the last 7 years by 2 head coaches who would rather be their best friend instead of someone who told them the truth. They were used to a Club Med atmosphere, and when that got axed, the vaginas started to get sandy.

The Chiefs won exactly 6 games with Pollard as a starter. 6. When the coaches ass is on the line for their shitty play, you should be open to getting chewed up when you screw up. Bernard thinks he's above that.

It's pretty obvious that this fanbase is turning into a bunch of reeruns.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-08-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by chief103182

Damn straight, Bad Guy. I'm sure Pollard will get plenty of ass-chewing today when Manning ****s him and the rest of the Texans defense into submission.

And futhermore, you EARN respect in football. The way Pollard played for KC before he was cut should have embarrassed him. I liked when Haley yelled "don't let me break you" at Bowe after a touchdown. Obviously, Pollard broke.

There's no such thing as earning respect anymore. Everyone expects respect to be given to them on a silver platter.

Suck at football? Have a coach yelling at you? Just say you felt disrepected so people feel sorry for you.

CHIEFS58 · 11-08-2009, 10:35 AM

What a pussy. Man up.

Nero's Neptune · 11-08-2009, 10:39 AM

The bottom line on this is that Pollard would still be a Chief if he was that good. The fact is that he's a very average safety and his personality clashed with the coaches.... bye bye.. This team needs a lot help, and having Pollard would not make much of a difference.

wild1 · 11-08-2009, 10:40 AM

Honestly, I'm not a fan of Haley's coaching style either. I don't see why you need to be that profane all the time and alienate players. Someone like Pollard who sucked and needed to go - who cares. But I don't see anyone other than perhaps Dorsey who's responded to it.

Obviously things are not changing by virtue of this style alone. But I am a big believer in the idea that the culture of a workplace is contagious and it's a big factor in performance. If someone isn't on board they should be cut. I don't think you need this bawling-out culture all the time.

They need a culture where success is not only rewarded but expected, for sure. But if the culture is extremely negative most people will not respond to it.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-08-2009, 10:46 AM

The issue isn't whether or not Pollard is right about this, the fact is that a good number of players feel this way about this approach in general.

11-08-2009, 08:37 AM
chiefforlife Colorado Chief Fan Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $5493147	Pollard didnt like being cursed out. Bernard Pollard didn't like Chiefs' coaches' cursing Posted by Michael David Smith on November 8, 2009 9:17 AM ET Texans safety Bernard Pollard started all 16 games for the Chiefs in 2008, but he ended up in Houston after Kansas City cut him just before the start of the 2009 season. Pollard describes getting cut by the Chiefs as a shock, but he says he thinks he knows what the problem was: He wouldn't put up with new coach Todd Haley and his staff cursing him out. "With professional athletes, you're dealing with grown men. You're not dealing with boys," Pollard tells the Journal Gazette. "You're not in a locker room with sophomores in high school. You're dealing with grown men with families. I have a wife. I have a son. And I have a daughter on the way. I'm not going to sit there and let you curse me out when you feel like cursing me out or talk to me any way you want to talk to me, and you just want me to sit and take it and say, 'Yes, coach.'" As ArrowheadPride.com notes, Pollard had a shouting match with Chiefs defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast during training camp, leading to Pollard being sent off the field. Apparently that was not just one isolated incident. But from Pollard's perspective, it's all worked out. Now he's a starter in Houston. "I respect others because that's what I want in return," Pollard says. "It was shocking to get let go, but I'm a Texan, and I'm happy to be one." http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...aches-cursing/ Last edited by chiefforlife; 11-08-2009 at 08:38 AM.. Reason: add link
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wild1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: 31040 Casino cash: $10004900	Honestly, I'm not a fan of Haley's coaching style either. I don't see why you need to be that profane all the time and alienate players. Someone like Pollard who sucked and needed to go - who cares. But I don't see anyone other than perhaps Dorsey who's responded to it. Obviously things are not changing by virtue of this style alone. But I am a big believer in the idea that the culture of a workplace is contagious and it's a big factor in performance. If someone isn't on board they should be cut. I don't think you need this bawling-out culture all the time. They need a culture where success is not only rewarded but expected, for sure. But if the culture is extremely negative most people will not respond to it.
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