Chiefs Is it starting to become pathetic how Patriots-like we're trying to be? - Page 2

TigerPig · 10:51 PM

I mean, do other teams and analysts think, "They are so smart for going after Weis, Cassel, and (possibly) Crennel, to try and bring that winning attitude to KC!" Or are they thinking, "How pathetic, they can't even make their own decisions on coaching and are just trying to copy New England as much as possible!"

Its pretty obvious we're ripping off the Patriots' philosophy. We're not copying it, we're literally trying to take the exact personnel and players they had and win with them here. Is this a smart, tactful thing? Or a sad and pathetic thing?

FTR I don't see a problem with it. If we start winning, they can change Cassel's name to Tom Brady and put Haley in a huge hoodie for all I care.

Mr. Laz · 01-06-2010, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerPig

That's right, stay positive!

There's a lot of love in this room...

you mean as positive as your OP?

BIG K · 01-06-2010, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerPig

I mean, do other teams and analysts think, "They are so smart for going after Weiss, Cassel, and (possibly) Crennel, to try and bring that winning attitude to KC!" Or are they thinking, "How pathetic, they can't even make their own decisions on coaching and are just trying to copy New England as much as possible!"

Its pretty obvious we're ripping off the Patriots' philosophy. We're not copying it, we're literally trying to take the exact personnel and players they had and win with them here. Is this a smart, tactful thing? Or a sad and pathetic thing?

FTR I don't see a problem with it. If we start winning, they can change Cassel's name to Tom Brady and put Haley in a huge hoodie for all I care.

Yes, in a new regime, it always pathetic to surround yourself with people who have superbowl rings. Whether or not, people will call this the patsification. Oh well, I would rather the Chiefs surround themselves with proven winners than the slapdick coaching staff they put together last year.

It's an improvement over last year......

Mr. Plow · 01-06-2010, 10:26 PM

God forbid....don't let us become like the Patriots and all the championships. Let's pick a better team to model after....maybe the Browns? Raiders?

Galileo Humpkins · 01-06-2010, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerPig

There's a lot of love in this room...

Every thread ends in a lovesome orgy.

Hope you brought lubricant.

LaChapelle · 01-06-2010, 10:27 PM

Don't let the KU fans get you down
Mr Brown

**Reaper16** · 01-06-2010, 10:28 PM

Aping the Patriots would be fine if we could acquire the one and only piece that made it all work.

**BossChief** · 01-06-2010, 10:29 PM

we could do worse...

Titty Meat · 01-06-2010, 10:30 PM

These are nice moves but like I've said I've seen this dance before. If this organization wants to be good again it's simply going to have to do a better job drafting.

TigerPig · 01-06-2010, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

you mean as positive as your OP?

My post is asking whether or not people think it is positive or negative. I see it as a great thing! It makes me really happy to see the Chiefs bringing in someone that I wholeheartedly trust will make things better. That hasn't happened very often. I didn't even do that with Vermeil. I did with Pioli, and now I am with Weiss.

I'm super positive. I just hope they can keep going. They could pick a million more ex-pats (lol), just as long as it brings in great coaches.

But I KNOW some people around here will disagree, which is why I asked.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-06-2010, 10:38 PM

Who gives a **** what "analysts" think?

Charlie Weis is a damn good offensive coordinator. Period. He'll bring so much to the Chiefs offensively that I would not be shocked to see us in the Top Ten next year.

Offense is all about play design. Cassel has limitations (as does every QB) but I fully expect Weis to design plays that will limit his deficiencies while creating plays that make him far more efficient.

Haley had some good ideas but he was stretched way too thin. He did a lot of stupid shit because there was no one around with a pedigree he respected to keep him in check. I guarantee that all those stupid, inappropriate trick plays and shit like trying a fake punt on your own 28 while only down one score has come to an end.

I'm shocked that anyone, ANYONE, can find a negative in his hiring.

Micjones · 01-06-2010, 10:40 PM

Guess I'm weird...

I care more about the success these coaches have had in their NFL careers that I do who their previous employers were. Name for me, if you would, a better Offensive Coordinator candidate going into the 2010 NFL regular season. Don't worry...I'll wait.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-06-2010, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

By my count this is the third time the Chiefs have tried to ape a more successful franchise.

Funny how no one seems to recognize this when it's so ****ing obvious.

**jAZ** · 01-06-2010, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Who gives a **** what "analysts" think?

Charlie Weis is a damn good offensive coordinator. Period. He'll bring so much to the Chiefs offensively that I would not be shocked to see us in the Top Ten next year.

Offense is all about play design. Cassel has limitations (as does every QB) but I fully expect Weis to design plays that will limit his deficiencies while creating plays that make him far more efficient.

Haley had some good ideas but he was stretched way too thin. He did a lot of stupid shit because there was no one around with a pedigree he respected to keep him in check. I guarantee that all those stupid, inappropriate trick plays and shit like trying a fake punt on your own 28 while only down one score has come to an end.

I'm shocked that anyone, ANYONE, can find a negative in his hiring.

Jason Whitlock hasn't posted his article yet.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-06-2010, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Guess I'm weird...

I care more about the success these coaches have had in their NFL careers that I do who their previous employers were. Name for me, if you would, a better Offensive Coordinator candidate going into the 2010 NFL regular season. Don't worry...I'll wait.

Considering hardly anyone has been fired, Mic, that's pretty hard to say.

And that's coming from someone who's generally happy with the Weis hire.

TheGuardian · 01-06-2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerPig

I mean, do other teams and analysts think, "They are so smart for going after Weiss, Cassel, and (possibly) Crennel, to try and bring that winning attitude to KC!" Or are they thinking, "How pathetic, they can't even make their own decisions on coaching and are just trying to copy New England as much as possible!"

Its pretty obvious we're ripping off the Patriots' philosophy. We're not copying it, we're literally trying to take the exact personnel and players they had and win with them here. Is this a smart, tactful thing? Or a sad and pathetic thing?

FTR I don't see a problem with it. If we start winning, they can change Cassel's name to Tom Brady and put Haley in a huge hoodie for all I care.

Damn you're a pathetically stupid MF'er. Find a grease fire to throw yourself into.

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TigerPig One with the Force Join Date: Jan 2010 Casino cash: $10004900	Is it starting to become pathetic how Patriots-like we're trying to be? I mean, do other teams and analysts think, "They are so smart for going after Weis, Cassel, and (possibly) Crennel, to try and bring that winning attitude to KC!" Or are they thinking, "How pathetic, they can't even make their own decisions on coaching and are just trying to copy New England as much as possible!" Its pretty obvious we're ripping off the Patriots' philosophy. We're not copying it, we're literally trying to take the exact personnel and players they had and win with them here. Is this a smart, tactful thing? Or a sad and pathetic thing? FTR I don't see a problem with it. If we start winning, they can change Cassel's name to Tom Brady and put Haley in a huge hoodie for all I care. Last edited by TigerPig; 01-06-2010 at 10:51 PM..
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DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	Who gives a **** what "analysts" think? Charlie Weis is a damn good offensive coordinator. Period. He'll bring so much to the Chiefs offensively that I would not be shocked to see us in the Top Ten next year. Offense is all about play design. Cassel has limitations (as does every QB) but I fully expect Weis to design plays that will limit his deficiencies while creating plays that make him far more efficient. Haley had some good ideas but he was stretched way too thin. He did a lot of stupid shit because there was no one around with a pedigree he respected to keep him in check. I guarantee that all those stupid, inappropriate trick plays and shit like trying a fake punt on your own 28 while only down one score has come to an end. I'm shocked that anyone, ANYONE, can find a negative in his hiring.
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