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Old 03-11-2010, 10:14 PM  
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Whats everyones opinon about Todd McShay?

Someone said he has Clausen ranked the 36th best player.
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Old 03-12-2010, 11:59 AM   #16
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I think some of the resident gurus are more informed than McShay. I've never understood how he got the gig, his picks suck.
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Old 03-12-2010, 12:27 PM   #17
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Old 03-12-2010, 01:21 PM   #18
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McShay is the suckiest suck that ever sucked. How he has a job at ESPN is beyond me.
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Old 03-12-2010, 01:24 PM   #19
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McShay is the suckiest suck that ever sucked. How he has a job at ESPN is beyond me.
Well you don't exactly have to be a genius to work at ESPN. I much prefer NFLN over ESPN unless I want some MLB action. In that case, I just tune to channel 213 and watch MLB Network.
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Old 03-12-2010, 03:37 PM   #20
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McShay is the suckiest suck that ever sucked. How he has a job at ESPN is beyond me.
and yet ... he still knows more about the players in the draft, on a bad day, than you ever will.
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Old 03-12-2010, 06:33 PM   #21
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I love how Kiper has McShay pissing down his leg in this video

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Old 03-12-2010, 06:43 PM   #22
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I think some of the resident gurus are more informed than McShay. I've never understood how he got the gig, his picks suck.
I still don't understand how he seems to be the number 1 draft guy now at ESPN. I actually enjoy listening to Kiper but McShay just seems to try and throw shit out there to go against the grain and make himself look smarter than everyone else. And has there been a QB McShay has actually liked in the last few years?
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Old 03-12-2010, 07:24 PM   #23
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wasnt he just a regular guy that started his own scouting thing on teh intrawebz like 10 years ago? Kiper makes him look like a moron most of the time
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Old 03-12-2010, 08:10 PM   #24
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Mayock is even worse at this point, all of his rankings just read like a guy who will put outlandish shit up just to get people to mention his name.
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Old 03-12-2010, 09:12 PM   #25
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I think Mayock gets paid by agents to raise their players artificial stock.
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Old 03-12-2010, 11:07 PM   #26
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Old 03-13-2010, 06:51 AM   #27
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Has anyone ever seen Kiper, McShay, Mayock Wright or the others come out after the fact and say, damn I was wrong about that guy? I usually have to mute McShay, he just annoys me.
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Old 03-13-2010, 01:46 PM   #28
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Someone did a study of the accuracy of mock drafts and player rankings over the last few years by various draft tards. I can't remember where it is, but Mayock came out ahead. The ESPN tards finished way in the back.

The thing about Mayock is he ranks players according to what he sees, not what hears. I don't think any of the other draft tards even watch tape. They look at what other people (usually other non-football peopel) are saying and change things accordingly. Most of these ****s don't even know the difference between a 4-3 D end and 3-4 OLB.

I'll never understand the idiocy around mock drafts anyway. Even a good one is 70% wrong and all anyone ever foucses on (including the networks) are 1st round picks. How about the other 6 rounds? Turn on ESPN or NFL network and see how many clips they over show of some of these mid to late round prospects.

It pisses me off to no end on draft day when they spend the entire 2nd day of the draft sitting around talking about and interviewing guys like Tebow, (or whoever their day 1 darlings are) and barely even mention the guys coming off the board in rnds 4, 5, 6, 7. Be ready for about 8 hours of Tebow this year.

I wish someone would put together a website with video clips on 300 or so of the top prospects. Now I could get into that.
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Old 03-13-2010, 02:38 PM   #29
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Someone did a study of the accuracy of mock drafts and player rankings over the last few years by various draft tards. I can't remember where it is, but Mayock came out ahead. The ESPN tards finished way in the back.

The thing about Mayock is he ranks players according to what he sees, not what hears. I don't think any of the other draft tards even watch tape. They look at what other people (usually other non-football peopel) are saying and change things accordingly. Most of these ****s don't even know the difference between a 4-3 D end and 3-4 OLB.

I'll never understand the idiocy around mock drafts anyway. Even a good one is 70% wrong and all anyone ever foucses on (including the networks) are 1st round picks. How about the other 6 rounds? Turn on ESPN or NFL network and see how many clips they over show of some of these mid to late round prospects.

It pisses me off to no end on draft day when they spend the entire 2nd day of the draft sitting around talking about and interviewing guys like Tebow, (or whoever their day 1 darlings are) and barely even mention the guys coming off the board in rnds 4, 5, 6, 7. Be ready for about 8 hours of Tebow this year.

I wish someone would put together a website with video clips on 300 or so of the top prospects. Now I could get into that.
I'd like to see that study.

I also agree that second day material gets awfully thin. They seem to love interviewing coaches and GMs about how excited they are with their picks from the first three rounds than focus on the value picks remaining, and why.
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Old 03-13-2010, 04:49 PM   #30
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I hate both Kiper and McShay. I used to have a lot of respect for Mike Mayock, but I don't even like him too much anymore. When I want "expert" opinions I search the web and see a variety of different views. But, rather than leech off those guys, I always try to form my own opinion on a player, and take Mayocks view with a grain of salt.
I actually think Mayock is the best of the "analysts" on television. Watching the combine you can see that he knows what he's talking about but I think most of these guys get a big head and try to be smarter than the system. Mayock needs to go work for a team for a couple of years in the player personnel dept and then come back to the studio. He'd gain an appreciation and regain some perspective.

I do like Lombardi as well. I love how he'll tell shit about Al Davis.
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