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Old 04-23-2010, 10:29 AM  
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Cost to trade up?
lets say the Chiefs want Clausen and are worried about Cleveland and/or Buffalo trading up.

what is the cost to trade with the Rams? or do you just risk him falling to us?

Round 2

1 (33)Rams




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2 (34)Vikings (From Lions)




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3 (35)Buccaneers




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4 (36)Chiefs




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Old 04-23-2010, 10:53 AM   #16
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if it takes our 3rd round pick to get Clausen in a trade...I'd do it in a HEARTBEAT.
If I'm on the phone, I try to make a big deal about going no lower than my 4.

Then I offer my 3 and 2b if necessary.

And if nut-cutting time approaches, I'd give up 2a and our 3 in exchange for 2 and 4.

I'd have to swallow very very hard before giving up 2a and 3 for Clausen.
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:02 AM   #17
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Talking to a Viking buddy, he thinks Minn. is holding that pick in hopes of another team wanting Clausen bad enough to wheel and deal. If it doesn't happen, he thinks Mays is their pick. FWIW
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:04 AM   #18
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I think the cost to trade up now is more than it would have been to jump into the end of the 1st round because so many teams have the opportunity to sit down, think about it, put together the best package and start negotiating against each other.
Agreed. That is why I was hoping they would pull it off last night.

With Cleveland and Buffalo already contacting the Rams, it might drive the price too high. On the positive side though, that would help push additional talent down to us at 2a.
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:07 AM   #19
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I wouldn't move at all...if Clausen falls to us fine & if he gets picked before us then that leaves A LOT of talent on the board for #36 & #50.
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:10 AM   #20
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I wouldn't move at all...if Clausen falls to us fine & if he gets picked before us then that leaves A LOT of talent on the board for #36 & #50.
Warning bells should be going off for Pioli right now. If we want to trade up we should offer what we think is fair to move up three spots in the 2nd round and no more. We can't get suckered into a bidding war.
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:16 AM   #21
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you could have had him last night for a 4th, maybe even a swap in round 3 and a 5th


which is why I don't think the Chiefs are serious about him unless he drops in their lap and then maybe....
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:23 AM   #22
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I don't think Cleveland is interested in Clausen. If they wanted to give more time to a Weis disciple they could have kept Quinn. They also have enough picks to move around and get something done yesterday.
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:28 AM   #23
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you could have had him last night for a 4th, maybe even a swap in round 3 and a 5th


which is why I don't think the Chiefs are serious about him unless he drops in their lap and then maybe....
same could be said for Cleveland and Buffalo(or anyone really)

if they were serious about getting Clausen why didn't they trade back into round 1 and get Clausen last night?
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:43 AM   #24
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Talking to a Viking buddy, he thinks Minn. is holding that pick in hopes of another team wanting Clausen bad enough to wheel and deal. If it doesn't happen, he thinks Mays is their pick. FWIW
That makes sense to me. Picking Clausen just gives Favre even more reason to retire, and the Vikes want to take one more shot with him.
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If I'm on the phone, I try to make a big deal about going no lower than my 4.

Then I offer my 3 and 2b if necessary.

And if nut-cutting time approaches, I'd give up 2a and our 3 in exchange for 2 and 4.

I'd have to swallow very very hard before giving up 2a and 3 for Clausen.
If you swallowed well enough... you may not have to give up more than a fifth.
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I vote gamble the Vikes don't trade up.
That is a good gamble.... since they are already ahead of us.
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Clayton is now saying that the Rams don't want to trade down too far and miss out on a Wide Receiver which probably means Clevenland/Buffalo will have to pay a ton to get up there.
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Clayton is now saying that the Rams don't want to trade down too far and miss out on a Wide Receiver which probably means Clevenland/Buffalo will have to pay a ton to get up there.
They could trade down to #36 and still get a damn good WR.
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Michael Smith is now saying that he doesn't see Cleveland taking a QB today at all. They just have too many needs.
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