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Old 05-03-2011, 11:58 AM   #1
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im not sure which 3-4 teams draft coverage Outside linebackers. Woodley is 270 and Harrison is far from a cover lb.
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Old 03-02-2011, 07:29 PM   #2
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Good player that i would love to have.. if it wasnt for our system. no way he can rush the passer and cover equally well in the nfl..
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Old 01-09-2012, 12:37 AM   #3
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Good player that i would love to have.. if it wasnt for our system. no way he can rush the passer and cover equally well in the nfl..
Hmm well i was wrong to an extent. But only when RAC went ahead and changed the defense to bring more pressure.
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Old 03-02-2011, 08:45 PM   #4
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If we're talking about a coverage linebacker Ayers might be the best guy then. Andy Studebaker ****ing sucks.
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Old 03-02-2011, 10:59 PM   #5
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If we're talking about a coverage linebacker Ayers might be the best guy then. Andy Studebaker ****ing sucks.
Herzlich has substantially better coverage skills than Ayers and has shown a much greater passion for the game itself. I watched a number of Boston College games this past season and Herzlich got better every single game. In their final bowl game against Nevada, the guy was all over the field and in on nearly every play. He ended the season with four interceptions.

He ran a bad 40 at the combine, but if you watched him in the rest of the drills, he was by far and away the most polished guy out there with the best footwork and instincts.

And Milk is correct and he's saying exactly what I was inferring from the start of this thread. The LOLB in a 3-4, and specifically Crennel's 3-4 defense, is dropping a lot in zone coverage and is asked to man cover the tight end a lot. You don't want two pure pass rushers in this defense.

Like I stated, Houston isn't a good choice for this defense because we've already got the same guy in Hali, who is coming into his prime and has been a force rushing the passer. He's a proven commodity and it would be redundant to bring in another guy just like him. Neither Hali or Houston are ideal LOLBs in this system.
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Old 03-02-2011, 08:57 PM   #6
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See maybe that's where I get all crazy.

Because I consider the ILBs to be the coverage backers.

This is so stupid. Like it's a bad thing for a team to have two Tamba Halis.
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Old 03-02-2011, 08:59 PM   #7
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See maybe that's where I get all crazy.

Because I consider the ILBs to be the coverage backers.

This is so stupid. Like it's a bad thing for a team to have two Tamba Halis.
I think the playoff game vs the Ravens showed just how bad our linebackers were in coverage.
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Old 03-02-2011, 09:13 PM   #8
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I think the playoff game vs the Ravens showed just how bad our linebackers were in coverage.
Yeah, the defense didn't lose us that game.
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Old 03-02-2011, 09:19 PM   #9
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Yeah, the defense didn't lose us that game.
Todd Heap abused the LBs over the middle in that game.
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Old 03-02-2011, 09:19 PM   #10
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Yeah, the defense didn't lose us that game.
It doesn't mean they weren't horrible in coverage.
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Old 03-02-2011, 09:24 PM   #11
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Todd Heap abused the LBs over the middle in that game.
Over the middle, you say?

Shit. I mean I don't know much about football, but I could have sworn we had players in the middle of the field in that linebacker range?



Really, I'm not a coordinator or anything, but it would seem to me that the only time you should have an OLB play a ton of snaps in coverage is if your opponent is running 4 or 5 wide on a regular basis.
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Yeah, the defense didn't lose us that game.
No but we made Todd Heap look all pro
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See maybe that's where I get all crazy.

Because I consider the ILBs to be the coverage backers.

This is so stupid. Like it's a bad thing for a team to have two Tamba Halis.
No one is saying it's a bad thing to have two Halis.

I even said that is what I would want.

But that's not Crennel's system.
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Old 03-03-2011, 01:52 AM   #14
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Heap tore the Chiefs up over the middle and the linebackers sucked in space against Rice.

I'm sorry but i'm not spending a first on Herzlich. This will likely come off as assholish but i'm not sure how much stock you can put into a guy who had cancer. I mean i'm sure the treatment had to have done a number on his body I question how long he'll be able to hold up.

Ayers would be an interesting pick but I think in this spot you go with the famous trade down option.
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Go back and watch the Ravens game...the only guy getting pressure on Flacco was Hali...he had ALL DAY to throw most of the time.

That's why he was able to sit there and look down the field and when no one was open, dump it off comfortably with absolutely no one in his face.
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