Chiefs Exposed - Page 2

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-18-2011, 07:06 PM

What else can you really say? This is a terrible football team.

What does it portend? That's a little harder to say.

1) I was willing to grant Haley some slack after the disastrous season opener, but seeing how this team responded, and how it has responded the last four games, he needs to be a dead man walking. The problem with Haley is the problem that happens with any hothead, whether it's Lou Piniella, Bobby Valentine, or Mangino: no one wants to play for, or listen to a prick when they are losing. If he could command respect it's one thing, but being a failed golfer who got into the NFL through daddy connections will kill him in a situation like this. It's the height of irony, really.

That team has a lot of quit in it.

2) Pioli may be one of the luckiest men in the NFL if this team is as bad as it looks right now. His own mismanagement of the team could literally cause the franchise to fall ass over teakettle into Andrew Luck, a pick for which he would take all the credit.

3) Romeo's defense is antiquated. You can't sit back and wait for a QB to pick you apart in a league where corners can't jam and you only have one legitimate pass rusher. This team needs to be shooting gaps and leaning on its corners, not expecting the linebackers and safeties to cover down the field or in the seams.

4) The telephone game is one of many things killing the offense. You can't say that multiple relays/filters is a good idea in a situation like that. It's one more potential area for failure. You don't need four sticks of RAM that have the same total capacity as two would.

5) The injuries have been disastrous, but you can't dodge that bug forever. I read an NFL preview on Grantland where Bill Barnwell pointed out the staggeringly low number of games lost by the Chiefs last year. This is the unlucky flip side of that coin. Given the schedule and the lack of focus, it's not the worst of all possible breaks to have it happen this year.

What can you say, really?

A lot of this stems from the 2009 offseason. By trading for Cassel in February, Pioli effectively passed on both Stafford and Sanchez. He hired Haley, a guy who looks daily more like the Reno airshow, and he made possibly the worst pick in Chiefs history at #3, and followed it up with maybe the worst draft in Chiefs history.

The ideology behind the roster construction is totally bankrupt, so it's hard to have much of any faith at this point.

**The Bad Guy** · 09-18-2011, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Within striking distance of a trade up, and trading for Cassel eliminated even the possibility of entertaining the idea.

There's a whole ton about the Cassel trade that I hate and will continue to hate, but eliminating the possibility of trading up isn't one of them.

If the Chiefs wanted that QB, they could have just taken Sanchez.

Deberg_1990 · 09-18-2011, 07:16 PM

Oh, Pioli also passed on Freeman, who BTW rallied his team from 17 down today....

Rams Fan · 09-18-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

There's a whole ton about the Cassel trade that I hate and will continue to hate, but eliminating the possibility of trading up isn't one of them.

If the Chiefs wanted that QB, they could have just taken Sanchez.

Or the best QB from the draft, Freeman.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-18-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

How did Pioli pass on Stafford? Sanchez, yes, but I don't know how he effectively passed on him.

Really, I would rather see Palko out there and go 0-16.

When you trade for a guy in February before another guy who was not a lock #1 is taken in April, you've passed on him.

It's pretty clear who Pioli thought his QBOTF was, and it was clearly established that Stafford and Sanchez were #1 and #2 for QBs in the draft.

There's a reason why the Lions also negotiated with Aaron Curry and other players at #1.

With that old pay system, I think it's reasonable to think that Detroit would have seriously considered swapping #1 with #3 had we sweetened the pot with something like our #34.

Rams Fan · 09-18-2011, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Oh, Pioli also passed on Freeman, who BTW rallied his team from 17 down today....

I don't understand why people prefer Sanchez over Freeman.

Don't give me that shit the he has been to two consecutive AFCCG.

Titty Meat · 09-18-2011, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Within striking distance of a trade up, and trading for Cassel eliminated even the possibility of entertaining the idea.

And drafting Sanchez would guarantee that we don't draft Luck. Good thing that didn't happen.

ChiefsCountry · 09-18-2011, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

The Lions wouldn't want to make their fans(whatever remained of them after 2008) pissed by trading down for a guy who started one season at USC.

Lions had two first round picks in 2009, there was talk about them trading the 20th overall to New England for Cassel and taking Jason Smith #1.

Brock · 09-18-2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

I don't understand why people prefer Sanchez over Freeman.

I doubt anyone does.

Rams Fan · 09-18-2011, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Lions had two first round picks in 2009, there was talk about them trading the 20th overall to New England for Cassel and taking Jason Smith #1.

But they didn't because Mayhew is a good GM.

Titty Meat · 09-18-2011, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

When you trade for a guy in February before another guy who was not a lock #1 is taken in April, you've passed on him.

It's pretty clear who Pioli thought his QBOTF was, and it was clearly established that Stafford and Sanchez were #1 and #2 for QBs in the draft.

There's a reason why the Lions also negotiated with Aaron Curry and other players at #1.

With that old pay system, I think it's reasonable to think that Detroit would have seriously considered swapping #1 with #3 had we sweetened the pot with something like our #34.

After going 0-16? No way.

Brianfo · 09-18-2011, 07:21 PM

Is portend a word? I feel dumber after reading your post.

Demonpenz · 09-18-2011, 07:21 PM

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'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-18-2011, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

After going 0-16? No way.

I actually know a number of Lions fans. I used to live around there, and several were apoplectic that they didn't draft Smith or Curry.

Rams Fan · 09-18-2011, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I actually know a number of Lions fans. I used to live around there, and several were apoplectic that they didn't draft Smith or Curry.

They should be happy now. Because so far, Smith and Curry have been shit.

el borracho · 09-18-2011, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

3) Romeo's defense is antiquated. You can't sit back and wait for a QB to pick you apart in a league where corners can't jam and you only have one legitimate pass rusher. This team needs to be shooting gaps and leaning on its corners, not expecting the linebackers and safeties to cover down the field or in the seams.

This occurred to me today, also. Our defense is far too passive. We have a pathetic pass rush and it is killing us. You simply cannot give offenses that much time in today's NFL. You cannot do it.

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