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Mr. Laz · 10-20-2011, 03:02 PM

Haley: Baldwin to be game-time decision

Coach Todd Haley indicated today the Chiefs were no closer to deciding whether their first-round draft pick, wide receiver Jonathan Baldwin, would make his NFL debut Sunday against the Raiders in Oakland.

Baldwin broke his thumb in a training camp fight with teammate Thomas Jones. He was well enough to play in the Chiefs most recent game two weeks ago in Indianapolis, but was inactive.

''When I say somebody’s ready to go, he’s ready to go,'' Haley said. ''But at the same time as the head coach you’ve got to make the right decision for the team and for the Indy game that was the right decision because we won the game. But there’s a lot more that goes into it than Jonathan Baldwin.

''He was ready to go for the Indy game. I’m glad now he’s had a couple more weeks. At the same time, that decision will come down to game day, I believe. Not because of him really, but there are a lot of different things to think about.

''I have to think about Steve Breaston and Dwayne Bowe a little bit. They’ve been playing really well the last couple of weeks specifically and I don’t want to disrupt them a whole bunch.''

Two of the other backup wide receivers, Terrance Copper and Jeremy Horne, have been among the Chiefs’ better special teams players. If the Chiefs let Baldwin play, he would probably replace Horne on the active roster but Haley said Baldwin can’t yet make up for what Horne gives them on special teams.

''He’s practicing it and working at it,'' Haley said. ''But you’re talking about somebody that hasn’t had a lot of developmental time on special teams here for a lot of different reasons, number one because he was injured and couldn’t participate on special teams while everybody else was stacking practices under their belt.''

By Adam Teicher on October 20, 2011 - 2:11pm
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mcaj22 · 10-20-2011, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HIChief

Are receivers even worth 1st round picks anymore? Or, are they really a-dime-a-dozen?

As you can see unless its cant miss talent like what AJ Green is doing right now (literally putting a dumpy franchise on his back) then yes they are worth it

but picking a WR in the late first, probably not.

**HemiEd** · 10-20-2011, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

What does he gain by saying that Baldwin is going to play right now?

I don't have a problem with what he's doing.

I don't either, and the improvement of Bowe, is clear enough evidence that Haley knows what he is doing with WRs.

Larry Fitzgerald was thankful to Haley, but we have watched it with Bowe.

Micjones · 10-20-2011, 03:57 PM

I'm not at all bothered by Haley bringing Baldwin along slowly.
Breaston's played well as of late. No sense in disrupting the little rhythm the passing game has had here recently.

suds79 · 10-20-2011, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

I'm not at all bothered by Haley bringing Baldwin along slowly.
Breaston's played well as of late. No sense in disrupting the little rhythm the passing game has had here recently.

Breaston would still be active if Baldwin played.

We're talking about putting in Blaldwin out for the likes of Terrance Copper or Keary Colbert.

It's a no brainer.

BoneKrusher · 10-20-2011, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79

Is Todd Haley trying to get fired?

Not playing Scott's first round pick probably isn't doing him any favors.

Freaking play the kid. Lets see what he's got.

Agreed.

Baldwin has to be a better option than the Urban Cowboy.

Three7s · 10-20-2011, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

He's obviously playing.

People said the same thing against the Colts. I wonder what that result was.

whoman69 · 10-20-2011, 05:58 PM

Ok, we get it. Haley is trying to get Baldwin to work harder to get into the line-up. This team could use the talent infusion, even if its for a slot receiver.

**mlyonsd** · 10-20-2011, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

''I have to think about Steve Breaston and Dwayne Bowe a little bit. They’ve been playing really well the last couple of weeks specifically and I don’t want to disrupt them a whole bunch.''

Here's an idea, send all three of them out at once.

Okie_Apparition · 10-20-2011, 06:57 PM

Haley is gaming for his job. Since WRs are his known quanity, how Baldwin turns out could be huge for him. Got to make the boss look smart taking Baldwin #1

Chief Roundup · 10-20-2011, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd

Here's an idea, send all three of them out at once.

This isn't just about the offense. It is also about special teams.

Chief Roundup · 10-20-2011, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69

Ok, we get it. Haley is trying to get Baldwin to work harder to get into the line-up. This team could use the talent infusion, even if its for a slot receiver.

Baldwin is not a slot receiver. We are currently using the slot receiver, Steve Breaston, as a SE instead of the slot.

Mr. Arrowhead · 10-20-2011, 07:45 PM

Remember when Bowe wasnt starting, umm yea look at him now. Haley knows what he is doing.

Mr. Laz · 10-20-2011, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead

Remember when Bowe wasnt starting, umm yea look at him now. Haley knows what he is doing.

Yea, Haley did the same goofy stuff with Bowe.

Remember when Copper was the starter during preseason or something? Bowe was listed 3rd on the depth chart.

deltachief · 10-20-2011, 09:48 PM

It's called Haley love. First he beats all the prima donna, diva out of you then he molds you into an all pro. It has been proven to work. Yeah I would like to see the kid play but not at the expense of the team or is long term growth. I would come out with a 4 receiver set of Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin and Little DMC. Oakland does not have the secondary to cover all those guys at the same time.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-20-2011, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

Yea, Haley did the same goofy stuff with Bowe.

Remember when Copper was the starter during preseason or something? Bowe was listed 3rd on the depth chart.

Goofy? Whatever works man.

10-20-2011, 03:02 PM
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Baldwin to be a game day decision Haley: Baldwin to be game-time decision Coach Todd Haley indicated today the Chiefs were no closer to deciding whether their first-round draft pick, wide receiver Jonathan Baldwin, would make his NFL debut Sunday against the Raiders in Oakland. Baldwin broke his thumb in a training camp fight with teammate Thomas Jones. He was well enough to play in the Chiefs most recent game two weeks ago in Indianapolis, but was inactive. ''When I say somebody’s ready to go, he’s ready to go,'' Haley said. ''But at the same time as the head coach you’ve got to make the right decision for the team and for the Indy game that was the right decision because we won the game. But there’s a lot more that goes into it than Jonathan Baldwin. ''He was ready to go for the Indy game. I’m glad now he’s had a couple more weeks. At the same time, that decision will come down to game day, I believe. Not because of him really, but there are a lot of different things to think about. ''I have to think about Steve Breaston and Dwayne Bowe a little bit. They’ve been playing really well the last couple of weeks specifically and I don’t want to disrupt them a whole bunch.'' Two of the other backup wide receivers, Terrance Copper and Jeremy Horne, have been among the Chiefs’ better special teams players. If the Chiefs let Baldwin play, he would probably replace Horne on the active roster but Haley said Baldwin can’t yet make up for what Horne gives them on special teams. ''He’s practicing it and working at it,'' Haley said. ''But you’re talking about somebody that hasn’t had a lot of developmental time on special teams here for a lot of different reasons, number one because he was injured and couldn’t participate on special teams while everybody else was stacking practices under their belt.'' By Adam Teicher on October 20, 2011 - 2:11pm login or register to post comments
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Micjones Whose house? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10005180	I'm not at all bothered by Haley bringing Baldwin along slowly. Breaston's played well as of late. No sense in disrupting the little rhythm the passing game has had here recently. __________________ It's like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I could been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong.
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Okie_Apparition Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: floatin cobwebs n the sky Casino cash: $10004900	Haley is gaming for his job. Since WRs are his known quanity, how Baldwin turns out could be huge for him. Got to make the boss look smart taking Baldwin #1
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Mr. Arrowhead MVP Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wichita Casino cash: $10015708	Remember when Bowe wasnt starting, umm yea look at him now. Haley knows what he is doing.
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deltachief Rookie Join Date: Jan 2010 Casino cash: $9935634	It's called Haley love. First he beats all the prima donna, diva out of you then he molds you into an all pro. It has been proven to work. Yeah I would like to see the kid play but not at the expense of the team or is long term growth. I would come out with a 4 receiver set of Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin and Little DMC. Oakland does not have the secondary to cover all those guys at the same time.
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