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Old 12-06-2011, 12:08 PM   #1
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Obviously I hate to see him go, but if he does we got his best years and two world championships out of him.

I guess if he does go to Miami DaKC will suddenly become the world's biggest life-long Marlins fan.
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:08 PM   #2
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Hold tight, Mo.

The last offer you made was more than fair. If he wants to go to Miami, he's earned that right. We got the best decade of his career, 3 pennants and 2 World Championships for his efforts. He has every right to do what he feels is best for him and his family.

I think he's making a mistake (Miami is a shitty sports town; especially in the summer), but it's his to make.

The Cardinals need to do what they always did during the Jocketty days - offer the amount you think is the right amount and pull the chute if some other team is willing to be stupid. Do not allow the largess of an idiot owner to force you into making a foolish decision.

Thanks for the memories, Albert. Have fun playing #3 to LeBron and Wade down there; I hope you didn't get used to living in a baseball town because the fans will forget about you fellas the moment you don't win 95 games. Miami and Atlanta are the 2 worst sports towns in the country.
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:11 PM   #3
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I'm sure Pujols isn't going to miss Stl.

The only reason to go to Florida, in any sport, is the lifestyle.
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:17 PM   #4
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I'm sure Pujols isn't going to miss Stl.

The only reason to go to Florida, in any sport, is the lifestyle.
Does Pujols strike you as the cabanas and Cubans type?

Obviously I could be wrong, but I just don't see AP hitting the night-clubs and closing the bars with LeBron and the boys.

Besides, baseball's a lot different animal than most other sports when it comes to lifestyle decisions.

During the baseball season, you really don't have the energy to go out there and party all the time, not if you value your craft. You spend a hell of a lot of time on the road and when you're home you try to spend some time with your family (presuming you have one. Albert is, by all accounts, a family man). Baseball's a hell of a grind; you play every day and if you don't want to go out there with dead legs, you don't go hitting the club after your 10:30p finish.

During the offseason, you can play in St. Louis and travel to Miami for the winter if need be.

I get it for NBA players; living in Miami for a winter sport when you're going to spend 2/3 of your time in your home city is a hell of a deal. But there's a reason that hasn't extended to baseball players.

If he moves to the Marlins; it's purely for the money. It's his choice to make, but don't make it more than it is.
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:21 PM   #5
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Does Pujols strike you as the cabanas and Cubans type?

Obviously I could be wrong, but I just don't see AP hitting the night-clubs and closing the bars with LeBron and the boys.

Besides, baseball's a lot different animal than most other sports when it comes to lifestyle decisions.

During the baseball season, you really don't have the energy to go out there and party all the time, not if you value your craft. You spend a hell of a lot of time on the road and when you're home you try to spend some time with your family (presuming you have one. Albert is, by all accounts, a family man). Baseball's a hell of a grind; you play every day and if you don't want to go out there with dead legs, you don't go hitting the club after your 10:30p finish.

During the offseason, you can play in St. Louis and travel to Miami for the winter if need be.

I get it for NBA players; living in Miami for a winter sport when you're going to spend 2/3 of your time in your home city is a hell of a deal. But there's a reason that hasn't extended to baseball players.

If he moves to the Marlins; it's purely for the money. It's his choice to make, but don't make it more than it is.
There's more to Florida than clubs.
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:29 PM   #6
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So again - why are the Marlins having to overpay like the Royals would to attract FA talent outside of the NBA?

After nearly 2 decades of existence, I have yet to see any indications that there are 'lifestyle' considerations that are driving forces to FA defections to Miami.
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:12 PM   #7
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The Royals countered with a 5 year 15 million dollar deal and offered him the "Keys to the city of Independence"
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:02 PM   #8
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:12 PM   #9
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Read an interesting article that a lot of these moves might be a way of invigorating the hispanic fan base in Miami. If that's the case, and it's actually kind of brilliant, then I don't see that fan base being the same as the shitty fan base that roots for the Heat or the Dolphins.

Not to say that they want Pujols for his hispanic descent. Guillen, Reyes, Pujols... this is quickly becoming Latin America's team. And it's the perfect market to do that.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:33 PM   #10
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Read an interesting article that a lot of these moves might be a way of invigorating the hispanic fan base in Miami. If that's the case, and it's actually kind of brilliant, then I don't see that fan base being the same as the shitty fan base that roots for the Heat or the Dolphins.

Not to say that they want Pujols for his hispanic descent. Guillen, Reyes, Pujols... this is quickly becoming Latin America's team. And it's the perfect market to do that.
this is a city where a pro soccer team flopped (pretty sure it was full of Latin players), there IS no market here. People here are too self involved to give a shit about pro sports. This is just throwing good money after bad.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:39 PM   #11
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this is a city where a pro soccer team flopped (pretty sure it was full of Latin players), there IS no market here. People here are too self involved to give a shit about pro sports. This is just throwing good money after bad.
Point taken. I hate the other Miami sports. Thought it could have been an interesting angle, but you never know.

It could also be that hispanic fans don't hate the Miami soccer team as much as it is that they hate MLS.
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And 2 meth labs. Don't forget that. It sure sweetens the pot, IMO.
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:49 PM   #13
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God, that area is two completely different worlds from the 90's to now.. My old neighborhood of 3bedroom2bath's are all hud homes now.. Driving through on thanksgiving what do I see?? Little wanna be gangbangers with their asses hanging out... Shit, in the 90s it was kids outside playing sports..

Well East Independence (fort osage area) was.. West has always been garbage..
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I think anyone would be stupid to go to Miami. They are "trying" baseball out in their new market, and are probably thinking they can dump everyone if they aren't selling out games. That's why the trade clause is the hang-up.

Anyone who signs there better be ready to have very little input on where they are traded after a year or so.
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