Hall of Fame show (Roaf in, Shields out)

[Rain Man]

Willie Roaf was the most entertaining left tackle I've ever seen. He made me laugh often as he pulled out left to destroy some unfortunate defenders.

[kcxiv]

What the ****, Curtis Martin over Chris Carter? get the **** outta here.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

What the ****, Curtis Martin over Chris Carter? get the **** outta here.

In all seriousness, I half-wonder if Carter got caught selling drugs in a locker room or something. There's no public reason that he wouldn't be in by now. He should've been in a few years ago.

Originally Posted by Rain Man

In all seriousness, I half-wonder if Carter got caught selling drugs in a locker room or something. There's no public reason that he wouldn't be in by now. He should've been in a few years ago.

I think it's just that creepy eyebrow. It's frightening.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Phobia

I think it's just that creepy eyebrow. It's frightening.

Yeah, but that monobrow was the aerodynamic secret that helped him separate from defensive backs.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by Phobia

I think it's just that creepy eyebrow. It's frightening.

Agreed. In some circles it is known as "The Burt Complex"

[Rain Man]

Warren Moon has gained some weight.

And the voters must really hate Cris Carter. He's the most mysterious oversight among the finalists.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Cortez Kennedy, thoughts?

I love it, but I grew up watching him every Sunday that the Seahawks weren't blacked out.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Cortez Kennedy, thoughts?

I love it, but I grew up watching him every Sunday that the Seahawks weren't blacked out.

As good as he was, Charles Haley should be in there over him. Sometimes i wonder what the **** the Voters are thinking

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

As good as he was, Charles Haley should be in there over him. Sometimes i wonder what the **** the Voters are thinking

Haley and Kevin Greene should be in before him.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Cortez Kennedy, thoughts?

I love it, but I grew up watching him every Sunday that the Seahawks weren't blacked out.

Honestly, other than Roaf this class doesn't wow me.

Jack Butler. Before my time, and I've never heard of him.

Dawson was very good, but Shields went to almost twice as many pro bowls (12 vs. 7). I've got no problem with him getting in, but I think he got in over Shields only because it's Shields' first year.

Doleman was very good, and I guess I don't give him as much credit as I should. He averaged 10 sacks per year for 15 years. I think Kevin Greene was better, both statistically and on the field, but as a DE instead of an OLB Doleman may get more credit. Meh, I guess I'm okay with him getting in, but it's not like he scared me as a player.

Kennedy surprises me. I thought he was pretty darn good at his peak, but I never viewed him as dominating. I'm not sure I'd pick him.

Curtis Martin is one of those picks who annoys me. Elect him to the Hall of Never Injured. He was slightly above average for a long time. Big deal.

Roaf was dominant, and clearly the best LT in the league for some time. When you saw him shut down pass rushers, and particularly when you saw him pull on a sweep, you knew you were seeing something special. I would've said that even if he had been a Saint his whole career and not a Chief. This guy really belongs in the Hall of Fame.

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Curtis Martin is one of those picks who annoys me. Elect him to the Hall of Never Injured. He was slightly above average for a long time. Big deal.

Nah. Dude wasn't a flashy or sexy back but he's #4 on the all-time rushing list behind Smith, Payton, and Sanders. If he had 4 more years in him, he could have owned #1 over Smith; who set that mark in 14 years.

He also averages 103 yards from scrimmage per game. Averages.... over a 10 year career. Name two other HOF backs who did that. Faulk? Nope. Dickerson? Nope. Thurman Thomas? Nope.

[Crush]

Originally Posted by Phobia

Nah. Dude wasn't a flashy or sexy back but he's #4 on the all-time rushing list behind Smith, Payton, and Sanders. If he had 4 more years in him, he could have owned #1 over Smith; who set that mark in 14 years.

He also averages 103 yards from scrimmage per game. Averages.... over a 10 year career. Name two other HOF backs who did that. Faulk? Nope. Dickerson? Nope. Thurman Thomas? Nope.

I agree. Curtis Martin was one of those guys that always dependable.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Roaf was dominant, and clearly the best LT in the league for some time. When you saw him shut down pass rushers, and particularly when you saw him pull on a sweep, you knew you were seeing something special. I would've said that even if he had been a Saint his whole career and not a Chief. This guy really belongs in the Hall of Fame.

He's especially awesome in my mind because we got him after a nasty ACL tear when he was with New Orleans. I love Will Shields, dont get me wrong, but when Roaf missed a few games with that hamstring strain our offense simply crumbled. Trent Green was not the same QB without Willie protecting his blind side.

When he was out, it hurt and it hurt bad. The scary thing about Roaf is that as destructive as he was for us, he was playing a lot of games on a bad wheel. He was awesome, and he was a fucking warrior. Its a damn shame we didnt have the defense to help him get a ring.

[kcxiv]

What i fail to understand is why Tim Brown isnt in. Yet Curtis Martin obviously got in for his Longevity. Tim Brown (yeah i know he's a Raider) was the Curtis Martin of WR's. Shit just boggles my mind.