Chiefs Daboll Didn't Make Adjustments - Page 2

Chiefnj2 · 09-10-2012, 09:16 AM

I've seen a lot of people making that claim this morning, but I don't see any evidence to support the claim.

Drive 1: KC got the ball to start the 2nd half and moved it from their 20 to Atlanta's 22 before a missed FG. They moved the ball and had a chance to put points on the board.

Drive 2: Albert whiff and Cassel sack fumble. No real chance to get a drive going before the turnover.

Drive 3: KC converts a 3rd and 14. Tipped ball by Moeaki leads to an INT. Not Dabolls fault.

Drive 4: Cassel's horrible INT on 3rd and 1. Probably should have been a run. Perhaps poor playcalling by Daboll.

Drive 5: KC starts at their own 10 and then has a 15 yard offensive facemask penalty that makes it 2nd an 22.

Drive 6: TD.

IMHO, Daboll engineered 2 decent drives (even if 1 was "garbage time"). 3 drives ended prematurely with turnovers before you could tell if Daboll made adjustments or not, and 1 drive just had a bad penalty and field position.

Black Bob · 09-10-2012, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Lou_Zare

Seems to me the middle of that OL got pummeled every play after the INT/TD. Winston/Albert played okay, but that interior OL sucks balls. They didn't block worth shit.

Is that the scheme? No.

LILJA.... He's the biggest problem on the line and he has been since moving to LG.

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Daboll did a fantastic job imo. There were a couple of times that I could easily predict the playcall, but NOTHING like the past couple years.

Nolan figured out what he was doing with the running game but it was light years better than Haley. Cassel was alot better in that offense.

KCrockaholic · 09-10-2012, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

Eachus at FB was really really bad. It was a big mistake keeping him if that's the role they have planned for him. He should be on the practice squad or just gone all together imo. It's great that he played hard but he got his ass kicked out there. We let Gordon go so we could keep Eachus? Really?

Eachus is a waste of a roster spot. Complete waste. He offers little to no help regardless of where he's at. He's a horrible fullback. And a very overrated runningback.

**Dartgod** · 09-10-2012, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

The first drive in the second half is rehearsed and game planned in practice so you can't count that one.

What?

Did you get hit in the head repeatedly with a baseball bat when you were a child?

**HemiEd** · 09-10-2012, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

Eachus is a waste of a roster spot. Complete waste. He offers little to no help regardless of where he's at. He's a horrible fullback. And a very overrated runningback.

But, but, but he got almost a 100 yards at garbage time in the preseason game.

Mr. Laz · 09-10-2012, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

Daboll did a fantastic job imo. There were a couple of times that I could easily predict the playcall, but NOTHING like the past couple years.

he did a pretty good job until the 2nd half when Atlanta started stacking the LOS on 1st down, anticipating a run.

we should of had a run/pass called each time and let Cassel choose to deal with that.

but after a possession or 2 he adjusted ... too slow, but he adjusted.

it just so happens that that 2 crucial turnovers happened during that same time.

Ace Gunner · 09-10-2012, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

One thing I noticed is we run a lot of pulling guards in our 3 wide formation. It works with Charles fairly well. But I didn't see nearly as many 2 TE sets as I was hoping for. We ran 3 wide almost the whole game.

Good post. Well, they were matching speed with speed imo. I guess they could have tried going back to the 2TE formations they ran so often during pre season, but I don't think it would have been the key to this since they were okay blocking the ends.

They did actually make adjustments when they trotted Eachus out to try and help the inside blocking. It just did not work.

I been saying Hudson is going to need time this season, yesterday kind of illustrated my point.

htismaqe · 09-10-2012, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Lou_Zare

Seems to me the middle of that OL got pummeled every play after the INT/TD. Winston/Albert played okay, but that interior OL sucks balls. They didn't block worth shit.

Is that the scheme? No.

The interior of the offensive line was flat great in the 1st half. Asamoah especially.

There were a couple of miscues with penalties and then the blown block that resulted in a fumble. Can't play from behind the chains - 1st and 20 equals 3 and out.

Cassel had ALL DAY to throw in the 1st half.

Reerun_KC · 09-10-2012, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

The interior of the offensive line was flat great in the 1st half. Asamoah especially.

There were a couple of miscues with penalties and then the blown block that resulted in a fumble. Can't play from behind the chains - 1st and 20 equals 3 and out.

Cassel had ALL DAY to throw in the 1st half.

Which is wonderful... 2nd half not so much..

**Rausch** · 09-10-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

The interior of the offensive line was flat great in the 1st half. Asamoah especially.

There were a couple of miscues with penalties and then the blown block that resulted in a fumble. Can't play from behind the chains - 1st and 20 equals 3 and out.

Cassel had ALL DAY to throw in the 1st half.

The one thing I don't get was when Hillis was in there the guy had almost no blocking. I couldn't tell if they just saw him and run blitzed every time or we just didn't block for him.

Either way it seemed like Charles had some holes to work with but Hillis was hitting a wall at the line...

htismaqe · 09-10-2012, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Which is wonderful... 2nd half not so much..

There wasn't all that much pressure in the 2nd half either. We ran some plays that took way too long to develop but other than the Albert big whiff fumble, the offensive line didn't do bad.

The Atlanta defense adjusted to our running game and we just didn't handle it.

htismaqe · 09-10-2012, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

The one thing I don't get was when Hillis was in there the guy had almost no blocking. I couldn't tell if they just saw him and run blitzed every time or we just didn't block for him.

Either way it seemed like Charles had some holes to work with but Hillis was hitting a wall at the line...

Hillis was awful yesterday, especially in pass protection. Awful...

Ace Gunner · 09-10-2012, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

LILJA.... He's the biggest problem on the line and he has been since moving to LG.

True, mugs, but the other two weren't much better. Asamoah had some real whiffs in that game and Hudson got plowed into the QB during several plays.

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

Nolan figured out what he was doing with the running game but it was light years better than Haley. Cassel was alot better in that offense.

Same offense, some new twists but same offense. Cassel looks decent with blocking and I agree he played perhaps his best yesterday, but when he can't step up in the pocket he is inneffective.

**Rausch** · 09-10-2012, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

the fact they people are talking about the offense just shows how gawd dam stupid it's become around here.

Defense allowed a score ON EVERY POSSESSION until kneel down time with 4 minutes left. EVERY DAM POSSESSION.

Idiots

Was it just me or did it seem like we didn't blitz as much the 2nd half because we wanted to protect our torched secondary?

The way the refs weren't calling much and were "just letting them play" I would have preferred to blitz the $3it outta' Ryan and give him less time to pick apart a weak secondary...

KCrockaholic · 09-10-2012, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

But, but, but he got almost a 100 yards at garbage time in the preseason game.

Too many fans cling to any sign of hope they see.

"Ohh blood on him arm, he must be trying hard. I like this Eachus kid."

It's bullshit. The guy has no business being on a 53 man roster unless he can tackle on special teams. And I don't think he can do that either.

Ace Gunner · 09-10-2012, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

The interior of the offensive line was flat great in the 1st half. Asamoah especially.

There were a couple of miscues with penalties and then the blown block that resulted in a fumble. Can't play from behind the chains - 1st and 20 equals 3 and out.

Cassel had ALL DAY to throw in the 1st half.

True, but that was only half true

09-10-2012, 09:16 AM
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6674388	Daboll Didn't Make Adjustments I've seen a lot of people making that claim this morning, but I don't see any evidence to support the claim. Drive 1: KC got the ball to start the 2nd half and moved it from their 20 to Atlanta's 22 before a missed FG. They moved the ball and had a chance to put points on the board. Drive 2: Albert whiff and Cassel sack fumble. No real chance to get a drive going before the turnover. Drive 3: KC converts a 3rd and 14. Tipped ball by Moeaki leads to an INT. Not Dabolls fault. Drive 4: Cassel's horrible INT on 3rd and 1. Probably should have been a run. Perhaps poor playcalling by Daboll. Drive 5: KC starts at their own 10 and then has a 15 yard offensive facemask penalty that makes it 2nd an 22. Drive 6: TD. IMHO, Daboll engineered 2 decent drives (even if 1 was "garbage time"). 3 drives ended prematurely with turnovers before you could tell if Daboll made adjustments or not, and 1 drive just had a bad penalty and field position.
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