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Old 09-17-2012, 09:46 AM  
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Soooo rebuild..
Besides the obvious front office changes that need to be made and finding a franchise QB, how far is KC personnel wise from contending for playoffs / how long will it take to become contenders?
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:16 AM   #16
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It doesn't ****ing matter.

You get a QB you can win.

That's all that ****ing matters, people.

Only reason we think we have to spend more money is because we're trying to compensate for shitbag.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:24 AM   #17
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It seems to me that the team will need a HB and FB, TE, and 1-3 new OL... Not to mention replacement for Bowe and probably a new slot WR as well.

But that's just my non professional opinion.
def need a new RB and TE, a couple of new LBers(at least one young MLBer with potential)/pass rushers, new d-line, some new o-line, and at least a new CB and new safety.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:27 AM   #18
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how long will it take to become contenders?
Easy to answer. How long before the Chiefs draft a franchise QB? Once that happens, pretty much that year and for the foreseeable future if he hits.

My point is that I think people focus on the other core of this team and you hear "windows opening & closing" and I think it's all BS. Your window is open as long as you have that QB. That's it.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:28 AM   #19
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It doesn't ****ing matter.

You get a QB you can win.

That's all that ****ing matters, people.

Only reason we think we have to spend more money is because we're trying to compensate for shitbag.
It is without a doubt the most important position on the field and the one that truly determines post-season success.
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:13 PM   #20
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We can't do nothing with Hunt as our owner. No matter what GM he brings in, he'll have to spend what Clark tells him to spend. We'll be picking up guys with one-year contracts every offseason. We'll get guys that'll make us content in free agency, only to release them a year or two down the road.

It's all up to Hunt and what he wants to spend. We are **** forever until he opens his wallet. We can bring in Reid, Cowher, Gruden, or whoever. They'll still have to to work around Hunts budget. This is out main problem right now.
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:24 PM   #21
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We can't do nothing with Hunt as our owner. No matter what GM he brings in, he'll have to spend what Clark tells him to spend.
So now it's not Pioli's fault because Hunt told him he can't spend any money?

Where did you get this?
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:28 PM   #22
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So now it's not Pioli's fault because Hunt told him he can't spend any money?

Where did you get this?
It's both their faults. Pioli's for not drafting a QB and Hunts for always having the most cap space year to year. You lost bro?
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:29 PM   #23
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:38 PM   #24
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If we had a QB that didn't shit his pants our rebuild would be 99% complete
And change the defensive scheme to a 1-gap zone blitz.
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:40 PM   #25
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:58 PM   #26
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I would say that most teams are a QB away from competing in the playoffs and for championships. That's why its hard to take KC seriously, regardless of overall talent level...Cassel is a complete turd of an NFL QB.

Teams like Atlanta/Detroit didn't magically become good through years of great drafting...they became good because they drafted Matt Ryan/Matt Stafford and had a good young nucleus around him.

Anyway, as a Bronco fan, I've had the up close and personal experience of the failure that is anything Patriots outside of Belichick/Brady. Hell, Belichick himself was pretty much average to below average until Brady came along. The long list of failures that have benefited from suckling Brady's teat is mindboggling at this point.

Crennel, McDaniels, Pioli, Mangina, Weiss...when will people learn that the Patriots success is due to having a Hall of Fame QB at the reigns?
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def need a new RB and TE, a couple of new LBers(at least one young MLBer with potential)/pass rushers, new d-line, some new o-line, and at least a new CB and new safety.
So keep the punter and safety?
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This team doesn't need to re-build.

Get a new QB.

I would blow up the defensive line with the exception of Poe.

New LG.

I would replace Belcher.

Sign some safety depth.

Add another pass rusher.

Get another #2 WR.
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Old 09-17-2012, 01:49 PM   #29
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I hear Matt Flynn will be up for grabs??

No matter what way you slice it. He's 10 miles ahead of Cassel..

And you guys have shit to contend with
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Old 09-17-2012, 01:51 PM   #30
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I hear Matt Flynn will be up for grabs??

No matter what way you slice it. He's 10 miles ahead of Cassel..

And you guys have shit to contend with
Have some class, we're guests here. We're also a hit away from Osweiler at QB so watch the bad mojo talk.
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