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Old 09-25-2012, 07:30 AM  
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Would you rappel down the St. Louis Arch?

They will be looking for people to inspect and wash it soon. Rappeling was determined to be the best method.


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St. Louis Arch is sound, but cleaning will present challenge
By NICHOLAS J.C. PISTOR
St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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ST. LOUIS -- Stains on the outer surface of the Gateway Arch may be caused by the welds that hold the 630-foot monument together, and crews should rappel from the upper reaches for a closer look, a new engineering report suggests.
The report says the Arch is structurally safe but needs further attention to protect its beauty and address growing signs of age.

Its recommendations effectively create a new extreme sport in which trained technicians would become monument mountain rappellers. They would strap themselves on industrial “choker hitched ropes” to descend the long curved legs of the unique structure.
There is no timetable for the inspection or ultimate cleaning.

Corrosion and stains visible on the surface and interior are cosmetic and don’t threaten the structure, according to the report by engineering firm Wiss, Janney, Elstner Associates, in Chicago.

The firm said that encircling the Arch legs with “belt-and-choker-hitched” ropes would allow workers close-up access without damaging the stainless steel skin. A system of redundant hitches would prevent technicians from experiencing “a dangerously large swing should they be blown by the wind.”

The Arch would have to be closed while this operation is performed, the report states. It would take an estimated five days and would surely become a tourist draw of its own. The report warns that it would attract “significant media attention” which could delay the work and “detract from the primary focus of performing the work safely.”

A news release by the National Park Service says the Arch is in “excellent structural shape.” Arch officials have been investigating corrosion and stains for more than six years.
The most recent study is the second in a four-step process, according to the park service. The next will include the rappelling for “close-up testing of the welds to determine the best method of cleaning the metal and stopping the streaking at its source.”

Frank Mares, the deputy superintendent of the Jefferson National Expansion Memorial, said this step can “only proceed after funding is secured.” The estimated cost is $180,000, including crew planning, preparation, and travel time.

The engineering firm studied ways to access the upper reaches, ranging from scaffolding to cranes. It ultimately decided that rope access was best. It did not offer a timeline for the final step, a full cleaning. A 2006 corrosion report recommends that the skin be cleaned by 2016.

Officials said the structural analysis and cleaning are separate from — and would not compete for funding with — plans to reshape the grounds surrounding the Arch.

“The Arch may be a little discolored in some places, but we are now certain that it is part of the aging process, and we will work to keep this one-of-a-kind structure in the best shape possible for future generations,” said Tom Bradley, its superintendent, in a written statement. “It may take some time to get up there to clean it, but we will get it done.”
The surface of the monument, completed in 1965, has never been cleaned.

No cost estimates for cleaning are included in the report. A previous study, however, noted “the initial cleaning will be expensive due primarily to access requirements, but a reusable means of access should be designed as part of the cleaning procedure.”
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:17 AM   #16
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Can you see out when you are up there? Does that bother you?

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Yes, there are some small windows at the very top. You are fully enclosed but still.....
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:24 AM   #17
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I'd do it.

What I wouldn't do was what Mike Rowe did in an episode of Dirty Jobs. He was cleaning windows on a skyscraper, but to reach his seat to rappel down he had to hang over the edge with NO safety what so ever.

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Old 09-25-2012, 10:40 AM   #18
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I'd do it. You don't get to do stuff like that every day.
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:42 AM   #19
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No, but there are a few people I'd like to throw off from the top of the Arch, or any tall building for that matter.
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:14 AM   #20
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:19 AM   #21
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:00 PM   #22
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I'm air assault trained and wouldn't rappel over 700 ft. I still find it amazing nobody was killed putting it up. It went up about the same time Busch Stadium was being built.
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:37 PM   #23
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I wonder what the worst phobia would be (excluding Mr. Phobia, of course)? To have, I mean.

It wouldn't be heights because you can avoid them. Spiders can be handled with an exterminator and a shoe. Maybe claustrophobia because it's difficult to stay out of enclosed spaces like elevators or stairwells. Or maybe the one where you're scared to go outside. Or the one where you are afraid to take a pee.

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I wonder what the worst phobia would be (excluding Mr. Phobia, of course)? To have, I mean.

It wouldn't be heights because you can avoid them. Spiders can be handled with an exterminator and a shoe. Maybe claustrophobia because it's difficult to stay out of enclosed spaces like elevators or stairwells. Or maybe the one where you're scared to go outside. Or the one where you are afraid to take a pee.

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I still find it amazing nobody was killed putting it up.
Yea, thats amazing. I remember they used to show a film about the building of it in the museum underneath. Pretty cool film.
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Phonophobia.
That would be bad, no doubt, Mr. jd1020. But you could always wear earplugs.

That fear of sleeping thing might be pretty damn irritating.

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I wonder what the worst phobia would be (excluding Mr. Phobia, of course)? To have, I mean.

It wouldn't be heights because you can avoid them. Spiders can be handled with an exterminator and a shoe. Maybe claustrophobia because it's difficult to stay out of enclosed spaces like elevators or stairwells. Or maybe the one where you're scared to go outside. Or the one where you are afraid to take a pee.

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I think it's probably that one where you're afraid to get out of your recliner and your skin melds with the fabric because you won't get out of the recliner. That's the worst one, I think. Who pays your bills then? And why wouldn't that person just carry you in your recliner out and drop you on a busy highway?
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I think it's probably that one where you're afraid to get out of your recliner and your skin melds with the fabric because you won't get out of the recliner. That's the worst one, I think. Who pays your bills then?
The government, I suppose. Unless you had Obamaphobia.

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