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Old 01-09-2013, 11:19 AM  
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WalterFootball mocks 2013
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1. Kansas City Chiefs: Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M

2. Kansas City Chiefs: Margus Hunt, DE/DT, SMU

3. Kansas City Chiefs: Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State

4. Kansas City Chiefs: Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas
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Old 01-15-2013, 03:08 PM   #16
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1. Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
I wrote earlier that this pick largely depended on what would happen with Scott Pioli. If Pioli were retained, he'd draft Star Lotulelei or Luke Joeckel and then use his second-round pick on Mike Glennon, whom he likes. If Pioli were fired, however, as the awesome @saveourchiefs movement was pushing for, the new general manager would almost have to take a franchise quarterback.

Well, it was the latter situation that occurred. Andy Reid was hired, while Pioli was axed. New regimes mean new quarterbacks, but whether that means Reid will spend this selection on a quarterback or sign his aging, scrambling signal-caller from Philadelphia remains to be seen. But if history is any indication, Reid will use this pick on Geno Smith.

Reid eschewed all the top free-agent quarterbacks when he took over as the Eagles' head coach, taking a mobile, Big East product with a good deep ball and upside instead. Well, Smith is a mobile, (former) Big East product with a good deep ball and upside. He fits perfectly into Reid's offense.

ESPN and other outlets will tell you that Smith nor any other signal-caller is worth taking No. 1 overall, but that could easily change. Remember two years ago when ESPN was mocking Da'Quan Bowers and Nick Fairley to the Panthers? Well, Cam Newton ballooned to the top, as will some other quarterback this year. It could be Smith, Tyler Wilson, Matt Barkley or Glennon. We'll see. Four months is a long time. If this doesn't happen, the Chiefs could always trade down.

By the way, I'm doing this live because I thought it'd be fun to get instant feedback. I'm going to post my mock anyway, so why not do it this way? Follow @walterfootball for updates.
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34. Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee
Kansas City's new quarterback will need a new receiver if Dwayne Bowe leaves. I wouldn't spend the money on Bowe; he's overrated because he's inconsistent and piles up most of his stats in garbage time. He was responsible for a ton of turnovers, including both of Matt Cassel's interceptions against the Ravens.
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63. William Gholston, DE/DT, Michigan State
Glenn Dorsey will be a free agent in March and Tyson Jackson is due more than $14 million next year, so it appears as though their disappointing tenures in Kansas City are coming to an end.
I'll update this when he finishes our 4th round pick.
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Old 01-15-2013, 03:29 PM   #17
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I'll update this when he finishes our 4th round pick.
Gholston is a beast. I'm not sure he last that long.
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Old 01-15-2013, 03:56 PM   #18
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Gholston is a beast. I'm not sure he last that long.
Ummm...he had a pretty average year in 2012.

I'm telling you, if you want a guy of that size with a motor, Utah's Joe Kruger is your guy. He just declared for the draft and is 6'7", 280 lbs. and led the Utes in sacks this past season. Utah defensive guys are very well coached and come into the league prepared to play.
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Gholston didn't have a very good pass rushing year. Has the tools, but didn't develop.
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Ummm...he had a pretty average year in 2012.

I'm telling you, if you want a guy of that size with a motor, Utah's Joe Kruger is your guy. He just declared for the draft and is 6'7", 280 lbs. and led the Utes in sacks this past season. Utah defensive guys are very well coached and come into the league prepared to play.
That whole team had a down year really.

Definitely agree on Kruger though.
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Old 01-15-2013, 04:09 PM   #21
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Gholston didn't have a very good pass rushing year. Has the tools, but didn't develop.
He's not going to be a top-end pass rusher. He's more of a plugger.
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He's not going to be a top-end pass rusher. He's more of a plugger.
Yeah, and I assume he would play DE here? I'd like to find a little more pass rush up there.
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Yeah, and I assume he would play DE here? I'd like to find a little more pass rush up there.
He's provide more pass rush than Dorsey and Jackson.

Keep in mind that even in a 1-gap, you're not gonna get double-digit sacks from DE very often.
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He's provide more pass rush than Dorsey and Jackson.

Keep in mind that even in a 1-gap, you're not gonna get double-digit sacks from DE very often.
I know. I like Gholston, quite a bit.

I think he's a solid DE in the 34. I'm just looking for that next Keisel or Watt.
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I know. I like Gholston, quite a bit.

I think he's a solid DE in the 34. I'm just looking for that next Keisel or Watt.
Keisel <<< Watt
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I'll update this when he finishes our 4th round pick.
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Kansas City Chiefs: Jamie Collins, DE/OLB, Southern Miss
The Chiefs don't have much depth behind Tamba Hali and Justin Houston - as they discovered in the Week 1 loss to Atlanta - so they could spend an early 2013 NFL Draft pick on a rush linebacker.
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I think we should tag Albert and trade him to the Eagles for their 2nd. My dream scenario:

Restructure Jackson's contract, Re-sign Colquitt & Pitoitua, Sign Wallace (WR, Steelers), Vick, and Rodgers-Cromartie.

Draft
1a. Joeckel (LT, Texas A&M) - could be best LT in the league someday
1b. Barkley (QB, USC) - trade up with 4th and 6th, good fit for west coast offense
2. Hunt (DE, SMU) - JJ Watt measurables, drops due to rawness and age
3a. Brown (ILB, Kansas St) - Belcher's replacement
3b. Lattimore (RB, South Carolina) - value pick
If we were really going to tag and trade Albert, we would have to get two firsts for him per the new cba. It's a longshot but, I think St. Louis is the team that would do it. They need a LT bad and they aren't going to get one with the 16th or 22nd picks. Also, KC would have to be dead set in taking Joeckel #1. The trade would have to happen before the draft imo.
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This is what I would like to happen in the first four rounds.

1. QB
2. CB (Need a number 2 CB right behind Flowers)
3. WR (In Case we lose bowe to fa)
4. ILB (maybe a DE, who can replace Dorsey)
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As a Washington Husky guy I'll chime in that I'm not a big fan of Desmond Trufant. I think he's living off of his name right now as a 3rd round pick. He's not his brother...
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