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**Tribal Warfare** · 05-16-2013, 02:23 PM

Chiefs searching for clear-cut second receiver alongside Dwayne Bowe
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
The signature moment for a Chiefs wide receiver during offseason practice happened this week when coach Andy Reid chewed out Jon Baldwin for being lackadaisical in getting to the line of scrimmage before a play.

It’s early, but that can’t be a positive sign for the Chiefs as they work to develop one or more receivers capable of helping Dwayne Bowe boost their passing game. Baldwin is the other starter with Bowe and leads the list of candidates, but hasn’t yet emerged as the dominant offseason player he was last season before faltering when the games started.

The Chiefs signed Donnie Avery, who caught 60 passes for the Colts last season, but he has mostly been a backup. Avery turned an ankle in practice on Tuesday and his participation has been limited since.

Other candidates are Dexter McCluster, who caught a career-high 52 passes last season, veteran Terrance Copper and a group of developmental players trying to establish themselves in the NFL, including Devon Wylie, a fourth-round draft pick last year.

But McCluster has provided the Chiefs few big plays since his arrival in 2010, Copper is a journeyman valued mainly for his special-teams ability and Wylie showed little in the playing time he received late last season.

Reid suggested the Chiefs might mix and match receivers to try to maximize their abilities.

“I don’t mind playing a bunch of wide receivers,” Reid said. “That’s what you do to keep them fresh.

“We’ve got a variety. We’ve got some speed guys. We’ve got some smaller, quick guys. We’ve got big, strong guys and kind of those intermediate guys and that’s OK. We’ll work to all their strengths and allow them to make plays.’’

Baldwin, the Chiefs’ first-round draft pick in 2011, was a major disappointment last season. He repeatedly made impressive catches during offseason work, leading to hopes he would have a breakthrough season.

He didn’t. Baldwin caught just 20 passes, one for a touchdown.

Baldwin was drafted by the Chiefs when their general manager was Scott ***** and coach was Todd Haley. Both are gone, so this season may be Baldwin’s last chance to establish himself with the Chiefs.

“That’s always for everybody,’’ he said. “It doesn’t matter, the coaching staff. You know you’ve got to go and prove it every year. You can’t take any steps backward and think you’ve made it. You’ve just got to continue to work.

“You’ve just got to make steps forward. Coach Reid and (receivers coach David) Culley, those guys are going to work us all hard, going to coach me up pretty hard and I’m looking forward to getting out there and getting the opportunity this year.’’

Perhaps mindful of how Baldwin’s 2012 season turned out, nobody has predicted he will have a breakout year this time. But the Chiefs don’t appear ready to give up on the possibility, either.

“He’s more consistent in his route running,’’ Bowe said. “He’s going to be better because we’ve got a better coach and we’ve got a great quarterback and he’s got a guy like me that’s going to bring him along.’’

The Chiefs signed Avery to be the deep threat they otherwise lacked. The 60 receptions he has last season were a career high.

“I can go over the top and get some yards after the catch,’’ Avery said. “But whatever the coaches dial up, I’ll be happy to do. If it’s going deep, I’ll go deep. If it’s running a slant, I’ll run a slant. Andy Reid runs the show and his mindset is to attack, attack, attack. That’s what we’re doing.

“This is a good group of receivers. Everybody has their attributes. We’ve just got to use them all. Every game somebody is going to be upset because they didn’t get enough touches.’’

The Chiefs for now can only hope that’s the case. New Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith is familiar with the arrangement of receivers where the top player, in this case Bowe, stands out among the group.

Smith, acquired in March in a trade with San Francisco, last year threw to Michael Crabtree, who caught 85 passes and scored nine touchdowns. The 49ers’ second-leading receiver was Mario Manningham, who has 42 catches and one touchdown.

“We’ve got a big group, a lot of talent, a lot of guys with a lot of strengths is really what jumps out at you at first,’’ Smith said. “For right now, we’re all just trying to pick up the offense, get on the same page, work on timing.’’

**Rausch** · 05-16-2013, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

This is where I say "Baldwin can't seperate" followed by the response "He was open, but our shit QB's couldn't get him the ball".

Which is it?

Baldwin is as dumb as $#it on a shoe.

He runs routes for $#it and gets abused by CB's half his size...

**ptlyon** · 05-16-2013, 02:46 PM

Ha. 3 different answers. I will qualify further, Cassell usually looked at Bowe

Thig Lyfe · 05-16-2013, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Especially when you consider ***** took Baldwin instead of Kapernick when everyone in the war room wanted Kapernick.

welp now im gonna puke

mcaj22 · 05-16-2013, 02:49 PM

its sad to think our first round pick WR is more of a "raw" development at his position than our first round pick NT who played in Conference USA.

both workout warriors and both are purely based on hope and hype, not any actual NFL production.

That's really sad. Especially when you should be drafting in the first round for plug and play production

Titty Meat · 05-16-2013, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Especially when you consider Pioli took Baldwin instead of Kapernick when everyone in the war room wanted Kapernick.

Is this true?

Halfcan · 05-16-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Baldwin is as dumb as $#it on a shoe.

He runs routes for $#it and gets abused by CB's half his size...

**Rausch** · 05-16-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Is this true?

This is the first time I've ever heard this $#it...

Halfcan · 05-16-2013, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Is this true?

Not sure but I know Many wanted kape on here- go back and check the threads.

Rasputin · 05-16-2013, 02:52 PM

Last year we had reports in OTAs and TC that Baldwin was kicking ass and turned in an F for the season.

Maybe this is opposite year we get reports he sucks in OTAs and TC and he turns in an A for the season?

Shaw and monkeys will fly out my butt.

mcaj22 · 05-16-2013, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Is this true?

the one dude on here with the inside connections reported it long ago.

i forget but i am pretty sure the Scouts wanted a different first round pick every year besides the no brainer Berry.

**Bowser** · 05-16-2013, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Is this true?

According to The Bad Guy's source it is. He's talked about it a few times. According to the story, the war room was 100% agreed on taking Kapernick in the first round in 2011, but Pioli overrode everyone and took Baldwin instead.

**notorious** · 05-16-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Last year we had reports in OTAs and TC that Baldwin was kicking ass and turned in an F for the season.

Maybe this is opposite year we get reports he sucks in OTAs and TC and he turns in an A for the season?

Shaw and monkeys will fly out my butt.

The KC media was propping him up like he was Terrell Owens, and he ended up being nothing but a long striding, no burst piece of shit.

**notorious** · 05-16-2013, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser

According to The Bad Guy's source it is. He's talked about it a few times. According to the story, the war room was 100% agreed on taking Kapernick in the first round in 2011, but ***** overrode everyone and took Baldwin instead.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**Rausch** · 05-16-2013, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22

the one dude on here with the inside connections reported it long ago.

i forget but i am pretty sure the Scouts wanted a different first round pick every year besides the no brainer Berry.

Not before draft day.

There were absolutely NO indications we had any interest at all in the Kap during the draft...

Rasputin · 05-16-2013, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser

According to The Bad Guy's source it is. He's talked about it a few times. According to the story, the war room was 100% agreed on taking Kapernick in the first round in 2011, but ***** overrode everyone and took Baldwin instead.

You do know that if anything at all ever happens to Scott Pioli we all at Chiefs Planet will be suspects right?

05-16-2013, 02:23 PM
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-2767187	Teicher:Chiefs searching for clear-cut second receiver alongside Dwayne Bowe Chiefs searching for clear-cut second receiver alongside Dwayne Bowe By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star The signature moment for a Chiefs wide receiver during offseason practice happened this week when coach Andy Reid chewed out Jon Baldwin for being lackadaisical in getting to the line of scrimmage before a play. It’s early, but that can’t be a positive sign for the Chiefs as they work to develop one or more receivers capable of helping Dwayne Bowe boost their passing game. Baldwin is the other starter with Bowe and leads the list of candidates, but hasn’t yet emerged as the dominant offseason player he was last season before faltering when the games started. The Chiefs signed Donnie Avery, who caught 60 passes for the Colts last season, but he has mostly been a backup. Avery turned an ankle in practice on Tuesday and his participation has been limited since. Other candidates are Dexter McCluster, who caught a career-high 52 passes last season, veteran Terrance Copper and a group of developmental players trying to establish themselves in the NFL, including Devon Wylie, a fourth-round draft pick last year. But McCluster has provided the Chiefs few big plays since his arrival in 2010, Copper is a journeyman valued mainly for his special-teams ability and Wylie showed little in the playing time he received late last season. Reid suggested the Chiefs might mix and match receivers to try to maximize their abilities. “I don’t mind playing a bunch of wide receivers,” Reid said. “That’s what you do to keep them fresh. “We’ve got a variety. We’ve got some speed guys. We’ve got some smaller, quick guys. We’ve got big, strong guys and kind of those intermediate guys and that’s OK. We’ll work to all their strengths and allow them to make plays.’’ Baldwin, the Chiefs’ first-round draft pick in 2011, was a major disappointment last season. He repeatedly made impressive catches during offseason work, leading to hopes he would have a breakthrough season. He didn’t. Baldwin caught just 20 passes, one for a touchdown. Baldwin was drafted by the Chiefs when their general manager was Scott ***** and coach was Todd Haley. Both are gone, so this season may be Baldwin’s last chance to establish himself with the Chiefs. “That’s always for everybody,’’ he said. “It doesn’t matter, the coaching staff. You know you’ve got to go and prove it every year. You can’t take any steps backward and think you’ve made it. You’ve just got to continue to work. “You’ve just got to make steps forward. Coach Reid and (receivers coach David) Culley, those guys are going to work us all hard, going to coach me up pretty hard and I’m looking forward to getting out there and getting the opportunity this year.’’ Perhaps mindful of how Baldwin’s 2012 season turned out, nobody has predicted he will have a breakout year this time. But the Chiefs don’t appear ready to give up on the possibility, either. “He’s more consistent in his route running,’’ Bowe said. “He’s going to be better because we’ve got a better coach and we’ve got a great quarterback and he’s got a guy like me that’s going to bring him along.’’ The Chiefs signed Avery to be the deep threat they otherwise lacked. The 60 receptions he has last season were a career high. “I can go over the top and get some yards after the catch,’’ Avery said. “But whatever the coaches dial up, I’ll be happy to do. If it’s going deep, I’ll go deep. If it’s running a slant, I’ll run a slant. Andy Reid runs the show and his mindset is to attack, attack, attack. That’s what we’re doing. “This is a good group of receivers. Everybody has their attributes. We’ve just got to use them all. Every game somebody is going to be upset because they didn’t get enough touches.’’ The Chiefs for now can only hope that’s the case. New Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith is familiar with the arrangement of receivers where the top player, in this case Bowe, stands out among the group. Smith, acquired in March in a trade with San Francisco, last year threw to Michael Crabtree, who caught 85 passes and scored nine touchdowns. The 49ers’ second-leading receiver was Mario Manningham, who has 42 catches and one touchdown. “We’ve got a big group, a lot of talent, a lot of guys with a lot of strengths is really what jumps out at you at first,’’ Smith said. “For right now, we’re all just trying to pick up the offense, get on the same page, work on timing.’’
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mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	its sad to think our first round pick WR is more of a "raw" development at his position than our first round pick NT who played in Conference USA. both workout warriors and both are purely based on hope and hype, not any actual NFL production. That's really sad. Especially when you should be drafting in the first round for plug and play production
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