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Old 11-09-2014, 06:44 PM  
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"Nobody Knows Anything"

William Goldman quote is more apt for this season than any I've seen.

Roethlisberger plays the last two games against good teams on All-Madden Rookie level? Shits his pants against one of the worst secondaries in the league.

New Orleans hasn't lost at home w/ Peyton and Brees since 2011? San Fran takes them out.

New England gets its jejunum pulled through its ass against the Chiefs and Dolphins? They turn into the best offense in the league without a decent #2 WR to even masquerade as a #1.

Cincinnati looks like a Super Bowl bet after three weeks? Now they play like KansaIowa State.

This is parity. Parody, too. There are about 15 teams that could win the Super Bowl right now.

Football games have turned into baseball games.

The only prediction I'm going to make for the rest of the season is I have no ****ing idea what to expect.
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Old 11-09-2014, 07:36 PM   #16
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TimBone thinks we are good because we beat Patriots and Bills lol
And?

We're not good because we beat the Patriots and Bills?

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Old 11-09-2014, 07:39 PM   #17
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absolute scum team. I hate the Steelers

that bullshit they tried to pull while the Jets where in Victory formation. They are the only team in the NFL that tries that crap where the safety jumps the center.

I'm happy Mangold ****ed that guy up
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Old 11-09-2014, 07:40 PM   #18
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Old 11-09-2014, 07:44 PM   #19
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Old 11-09-2014, 07:51 PM   #20
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I lost my ass betting on football this year. Never again.
Went 3-0 today. Jets and Chiefs ML and Detroit -3
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Old 11-09-2014, 07:54 PM   #21
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I lost my ass betting on football this year. Never again.
Steelers ****ed me big time. Packers can make up for it with a cover tonight
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Old 11-09-2014, 07:58 PM   #22
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More than anything, the biggest problem is that there are too many teams out there who are flat out terrible. Jacksonville, Atlanta, Oakland, Jets, Tennessee. Flat out terrible.

One division where it's most obvious is the NFC East. Dallas and Philly are both above .500. Would you believe those teams are a combined 10-2 against sub-.500 teams? So we know the problem there.

The AFC North is the heart of the next problem. I would argue you have 4 average teams fighting against each other. None of them are good. With the AFC West's schedule, would bet every one of those teams is a sub .500 team. But on paper, it looks like they're racking up quality wins because they're basically beating each other up. Why does that matter? Here's a fun fact. Would you believe there are only 4 AFC North games left? So basically, the AFC North are just playing each other and when they're not playing each other, they have a pattycake schedule where they're all playing 4 or 5 games against teams you would consider to be the 5 worst in the league.

Basically, we're going to see a situation where the AFC North and NFC East are probably going to have playoff representation for really, really bad reasons. Because of their strength of schedule. In the AFC North's case, the strength of schedule on paper is going to look a hell of a lot better than it actually is.
If those teams were really flat out terrible, the Jets wouldn't have beaten the Steelers and the Titans wouldn't have whipped the Chiefs. Hell, Atlanta should have beaten the Lions and they beat the Bucs by six touchdowns.

And if the AFC North were really a joke, Pittsburgh wouldn't have demolished Indianapolis.

People are expecting these results to be ordered into definable tiers. The truth is, there are a few bad teams and almost every other team is somewhere from mediocre to good, and even that spread is about as wide as a gnat's dick.

The Rams went on the road against San Fran, got 100 yards passing from their QB, and won. San Fran then went into a house of horrors in New Orleans and won.

Prognostication is totally meaningless this year. Most of these games are like baseball: 60-40 at best, probably 55-45 in most cases.
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:00 PM   #23
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Went 3-0 today. Jets and Chiefs ML and Detroit -3
Got pounded early but looking to cash a 4 team parlay for a grand if the pack cover 7.5. Had Denver, Sea, and the Cards all cover earlier
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:03 PM   #24
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If those teams were really flat out terrible, the Jets wouldn't have beaten the Steelers and the Titans wouldn't have whipped the Chiefs. Hell, Atlanta should have beaten the Lions and they beat the Bucs by six touchdowns.

And if the AFC North were really a joke, Pittsburgh wouldn't have demolished Indianapolis.

People are expecting these results to be ordered into definable tiers. The truth is, there are a few bad teams and almost every other team is somewhere from mediocre to good, and even that spread is about as wide as a gnat's dick.

The Rams went on the road against San Fran, got 100 yards passing from their QB, and won. San Fran then went into a house of horrors in New Orleans and won.

Prognostication is totally meaningless this year. Most of these games are like baseball: 60-40 at best, probably 55-45 in most cases.
Marty was 20 years too early. Now it's just get in and anything can happen!
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:19 PM   #25
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Marty was 20 years too early. Now it's just get in and anything can happen!
Pretty much. Honestly, given the bizarrely cyclical nature of sports, I'd probably bet this is the year the Chiefs break their playoff drought given what the Royals did, which makes no sense, but nothing else does either.
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:45 PM   #26
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I think this is really a function of the dilution of the substance of football via all the rule changes that emphasize the QB and the passing game.

There are only a couple of teams with elite quarterbacks, and you have crapshoots elsewhere. The rule changes have made it such that the team with higher rated QB wins a game 75+% of the time. It causes seemingly random outcomes.

The system perpetuates itself too. If you stumble upon an Aaron Rodgers, then your coach and everyone else will be safe for a while because you win most games because they higher rated QB wins most games. This gives your franchise stability and continuity. On the other hand, if you draft Geno Smiths then your QB gets coaches fired, GMs fired, free agents don't prefer to go there over teams that do have a great QB to play with, etc. The rich stay at the top, the rest stay down fighting over scraps until they stumble upon a QB.

There aren't a whole lot of elite QBs rolling off the assembly lines. And today with the Steelers and Jets you can see the difference completely. The Steelers are miles better than the Jets this year, but Rapelisberger shits himself and the Jets beat them because they were the better QBed team that day. One of the worst teams in the league beats a first place team just due to some uneven QBing. Nothing else really.

I hope someone with the competition committee will eventually wake up and see that it's not as much fun to watch the NFL anymore. It's a QB's shooting gallery, not a football game.
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:47 PM   #27
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I think this is really a function of the dilution of the substance of football via all the rule changes that emphasize the QB and the passing game.

There are only a couple of teams with elite quarterbacks, and you have crapshoots elsewhere. The rule changes have made it such that the team with higher rated QB wins a game 75+% of the time. It causes seemingly random outcomes.

The system perpetuates itself too. If you stumble upon an Aaron Rodgers, then your coach and everyone else will be safe for a while because you win most games because they higher rated QB wins most games. This gives your franchise stability and continuity. On the other hand, if you draft Geno Smiths then your QB gets coaches fired, GMs fired, free agents don't prefer to go there over teams that do have a great QB to play with, etc. The rich stay at the top, the rest stay down fighting over scraps until they stumble upon a QB.

There aren't a whole lot of elite QBs rolling off the assembly lines. And today with the Steelers and Jets you can see the difference completely. The Steelers are miles better than the Jets this year, but Rapelisberger shits himself and the Jets beat them because they were the better QBed team that day. One of the worst teams in the league beats a first place team just due to some uneven QBing. Nothing else really.

I hope someone with the competition committee will eventually wake up and see that it's not as much fun to watch the NFL anymore. It's a QB's shooting gallery, not a football game.
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:47 PM   #28
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:49 PM   #29
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It's pretty crazy this season. I have never bet on sports. Especially the NFL. Even in seasons where things seem predictable, unpredictable things still happen often enough to **** me in the asshole until I'm left bleeding in the moonlight with no money in my wallet.
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It's pretty crazy this season. I have never bet on sports. Especially the NFL. Even in seasons where things seem predictable, unpredictable things still happen often enough to **** me in the asshole until I'm left bleeding in the moonlight with no money in my wallet.
That's why I bet a few parlays when I do bet. All you need is one hit to make some coin
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