Football What's with "Half the distance to the goal?" - Page 2

jLoy88 · 11-10-2014, 06:23 PM

Section 2 Location of Foul
HALF DISTANCE PENALTY
Article 1 If a distance penalty, enforced from a specific spot between the goal lines would place the ball
more than half the distance to the offender’s goal line, the penalty shall be half the distance from that spot
to their goal line.

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15 yard penalty on the 30 yard line = 15 yard line.
15 yard penalty on the 26 yard line = 13 yard line.

If the result of the penalty would otherwise be greater than half the distance between the line of scrimmage and the goal line, than half the distance is enforced. So for measurements;
5 yard penalties - can only be 1/2 distance within the 10 yard line
10 yard penalties - can only be 1/2 distance within the 20 yard line
15 yard penalties - can only be 1/2 distance within 30 yard line.

this applies inversely for moving forward as well as backwards on a penalty.

**Shaid** · 11-10-2014, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jLoy88

Section 2 Location of Foul
HALF DISTANCE PENALTY
Article 1 If a distance penalty, enforced from a specific spot between the goal lines would place the ball
more than half the distance to the offender’s goal line, the penalty shall be half the distance from that spot
to their goal line.

----
15 yard penalty on the 30 yard line = 15 yard line.
15 yard penalty on the 26 yard line = 13 yard line.

If the result of the penalty would otherwise be greater than half the distance between the line of scrimmage and the goal line, than half the distance is enforced. So for measurements;
5 yard penalties - can only be 1/2 distance within the 10 yard line
10 yard penalties - can only be 1/2 distance within the 20 yard line
15 yard penalties - can only be 1/2 distance within 30 yard line.

this applies inversely for moving forward as well as backwards on a penalty.

Pretty sure we all knew that.

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 11-10-2014, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

I've never really understood it either. If you are on the 20 yard line and take a personal foul, it sure seems to me like the ball should be placed on the 5 yard line, but it's placed on the 10 instead.

I tend to agree that they should just enforce it with no "half the distance" and just put it on the 1 yard line if the penalty would take it beyond the end zone. But I don't think that one's changing any time soon.

Problem is that of the ball is at the 1 then that results in no penalty.

**DaFace** · 11-10-2014, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

Problem is that of the ball is at the 1 then that results in no penalty.

You say that as if moving it from the 1 yard line to the 0.5 yard "line" really makes any difference.

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 11-10-2014, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

You say that as if moving it from the 1 yard line to the 0.5 yard "line" really makes any difference.

you say that as if multiples times per game a team fails to achieve a first down by 0.5 yard (or less).

tk13 · 11-10-2014, 06:32 PM

Why do they even have yards? Or quarters? Or goal lines? Why don't they just put the ball out there... and play.

ToxSocks · 11-10-2014, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Why do they even have yards? Or quarters? Or goal lines? Why don't they just put the ball out there... and play.

I agree. 1st downs are dumb.

Every team should just get 4 chances to score a TD. If they can't, too ****ing bad it's the other team's turn now.

**Gonzo** · 11-10-2014, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I agree. 1st downs are dumb.

Every team should just get 4 chances to score a TD. If they can't, too ****ing bad it's the other team's turn now.

You know what... That would be kinda cool but give them 10 downs, (including the kickoff). Pretty cool shit right there.

**Rain Man** · 11-10-2014, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Why do they even have yards? Or quarters? Or goal lines? Why don't they just put the ball out there... and play.

That would be more pure to the roots of the game.

ClevelandBronco · 11-10-2014, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Why do they even have yards? Or quarters? Or goal lines? Why don't they just put the ball out there... and play.

You mean smear one of the partners in a loving, committed, same sex union?

Hydrae · 11-10-2014, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

You mean smear one of the partners in a loving, committed, same sex union?

**Gonzo** · 11-10-2014, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Why do they even have yards? Or quarters? Or goal lines? Why don't they just put the ball out there... and play.

The native Americans used to do this. It was a form of lacrosse actually and it would last for days...
I think of someone actually formed a league that played that form of the sport, it would be a big hit.

Garcia Bronco · 11-10-2014, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

The native Americans used to do this. It was a form of lacrosse actually and it would last for days...
I think of someone actually formed a league that played that form of the sport, it would be a big hit.

They were to the death contests and that is where LaCrosse comes from.

tk13 · 11-10-2014, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

The native Americans used to do this. It was a form of lacrosse actually and it would last for days...
I think of someone actually formed a league that played that form of the sport, it would be a big hit.

That's what I'm talking about. Men are men. A sport where success is not measured by the amount of points you score, but by the number of concussions you endure.

Hydrae · 11-10-2014, 07:07 PM

To the OP, what drives me nuts is that a defense has an offsides with the ball on the 6, the ball is moved to the 3 for a 3 yard penalty. Then the offense false starts and the ball is moved to the 8. So offsetting penalties leaves the ball 2 yards farther out. Something about that just doesn't seem balanced.

11-10-2014, 06:23 PM	#1
jLoy88 Starter Join Date: Dec 2013 Casino cash: $9957641	Section 2 Location of Foul HALF DISTANCE PENALTY Article 1 If a distance penalty, enforced from a specific spot between the goal lines would place the ball more than half the distance to the offender’s goal line, the penalty shall be half the distance from that spot to their goal line. ---- 15 yard penalty on the 30 yard line = 15 yard line. 15 yard penalty on the 26 yard line = 13 yard line. If the result of the penalty would otherwise be greater than half the distance between the line of scrimmage and the goal line, than half the distance is enforced. So for measurements; 5 yard penalties - can only be 1/2 distance within the 10 yard line 10 yard penalties - can only be 1/2 distance within the 20 yard line 15 yard penalties - can only be 1/2 distance within 30 yard line. this applies inversely for moving forward as well as backwards on a penalty. Last edited by jLoy88; 11-10-2014 at 06:24 PM.. Reason: clarify
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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1667500	Why do they even have yards? Or quarters? Or goal lines? Why don't they just put the ball out there... and play.
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Hydrae MVP Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Newport, Or Casino cash: $-963000	To the OP, what drives me nuts is that a defense has an offsides with the ball on the 6, the ball is moved to the 3 for a 3 yard penalty. Then the offense false starts and the ball is moved to the 8. So offsetting penalties leaves the ball 2 yards farther out. Something about that just doesn't seem balanced.
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