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Old 04-01-2015, 05:35 PM   #1
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Tony Romo is the most underrated QB in NFL history.

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Without question. Put him on a better team in his career than Dallas and he's a no-doubt HOFer.
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Old 04-01-2015, 05:39 PM   #2
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It's beyond dispute regardless of what any insufferable Boston sports fan wants to believe. The numbers are all there.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...f-fame-chances

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Old 04-01-2015, 06:12 PM   #3
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It's beyond dispute regardless of what any insufferable Boston sports fan wants to believe. The numbers are all there.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...f-fame-chances

Romo has never been underrated.. not ever.
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Old 04-01-2015, 05:05 PM   #4
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Old 04-01-2015, 05:11 PM   #5
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Tony Romo deserves to be hated simply because he is a Cowboy. I don't want anything positive to ever happen for that franchise and I'm really, really cool with Romo getting no positive press for this.
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Old 04-01-2015, 06:25 PM   #6
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Tony Romo deserves to be hated simply because he is a Cowboy. I don't want anything positive to ever happen for that franchise and I'm really, really cool with Romo getting no positive press for this.
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Old 04-01-2015, 05:31 PM   #7
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Old 04-01-2015, 07:19 PM   #8
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Old 04-01-2015, 10:21 PM   #9
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(of course, like JJ Watt and Tom Brady, it means nothing, since they don't lose a single $ in the deal)

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yet there are no articles on ESPN or Yahoo or anywhere talking about how great of a person this guy is!

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Romo's a cheater! He's clearly being paid off under the table!
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Old 04-01-2015, 10:24 PM   #10
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Old 04-01-2015, 10:30 PM   #11
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So, I'll be the jackass that asks a jackass question.
When players' contracts like this are converted to signing bonuses, how does the team get away with that? Couldn't a team just convert most of their high paid players to signing bonuses and in effect have endless money to use against the salary cap?

I'm sorry, I just really don't understand how the cap situation works with the NFL.
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Old 04-01-2015, 11:41 PM   #12
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So, I'll be the jackass that asks a jackass question.
When players' contracts like this are converted to signing bonuses, how does the team get away with that? Couldn't a team just convert most of their high paid players to signing bonuses and in effect have endless money to use against the salary cap?

I'm sorry, I just really don't understand how the cap situation works with the NFL.
It isn't endless money. It'll all come back around the bend eventually. It saves them more money this year, but will make him cost more against the cap the rest of his contract.

Romo was already going to make (X) amount in signing bonus. His base salary this year would've been $17 million + that original signing bonus number. That's the total cap hit. (Base + bonus)

By converting $16M of that 17 to "signing bonus," they can spread it out evenly. His base salary is now only $1 million + original signing bonus + the $3.2 million of "new" signing bonus. (16M bonus over 5 years of contract = 3.2M/year).

The catch is... that will now be an extra 3.2 cap hit next year. And the next year. And the next year. So his cap number will actually be higher in future years. He still gets the $17 million he was already making, doesn't lose a dime. It just changes the way Dallas files the numbers.
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Old 04-01-2015, 11:10 PM   #13
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The most underrated QB in history is Kurt Warner. I don't think it's even close. Basically a HOF caliber QB that was so highly thought of he was bagging groceries and playing in the Arena League. Even with the lull in the middle, the guy led three teams to a Super Bowl.

Romo's a victim of his position. QB's are remembered what they did in big moments. And Romo is kind of the anti-Jeter. He's a great QB who just had some big gaffes at bad times. But that's the difference between being remembered like Tony Romo and being remembered like Joe Namath.
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Old 04-02-2015, 07:06 AM   #14
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The most underrated QB in history is Kurt Warner. I don't think it's even close. Basically a HOF caliber QB that was so highly thought of he was bagging groceries and playing in the Arena League. Even with the lull in the middle, the guy led three teams to a Super Bowl.

Romo's a victim of his position. QB's are remembered what they did in big moments. And Romo is kind of the anti-Jeter. He's a great QB who just had some big gaffes at bad times. But that's the difference between being remembered like Tony Romo and being remembered like Joe Namath.
I still contend that Terry Bradshaw is the most underrated ever.

Sure, he was surrounded by outstanding talent, but those Steelers had to go through somr other outstanding teams, and Bradshaw consistently made big plays in big mome3nts, including outdueling Roger Staubaugh in the SB that still stands as the best ever.
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Old 04-02-2015, 08:12 AM   #15
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I still contend that Terry Bradshaw is the most underrated ever.

Sure, he was surrounded by outstanding talent, but those Steelers had to go through somr other outstanding teams, and Bradshaw consistently made big plays in big mome3nts, including outdueling Roger Staubaugh in the SB that still stands as the best ever.
Bart Starr.

The guy was putting up modern rate stats in the 60s when you could all but murder any offensive player. 90 passer ratings, 60+% completion percentages, 8+ YPA.

When you look at guys like Bradshaw and Lenny you have to really adjust for era before the numbers look even tolerable. Starr, OTOH, has numbers that would play all the way through the last decade and he did when cavemen ruled the earth.

Dipshit Clay would just call him a game manager.
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