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cmh6476 · 10-25-2015, 12:54 PM

I admit, it has been a bit frustrating to watch the inconsistency in balls and strikes in such critical games, at such critical times this postseason. We know the technology is there, and then the boo jays can't cry about the umps.

What do you think?

Mr. Laz · 10-25-2015, 02:06 PM

I don't see why we can't give the home ump Google Glass set so that he can see strike zone and pitch track

**DaFace** · 10-25-2015, 02:07 PM

I only pretend to know the nuances of baseball strategy, but wouldn't having robots call strikes disproportionately benefit batters? Seems like half of the challenge of batting is making those split second decisions on whether or not to swing, and removing the uncertainty of what might get called around the edges would make their jobs quite a bit easier.

eDave · 10-25-2015, 02:13 PM

Let's just have computer simulations and be done with it.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-25-2015, 02:17 PM

Hell no. I like the gamesmanship of catchers framing pitches. And I like the uncertainty of borderline pitches being called strikes because it forces hitters to attack.

I also like that it rewards teams that do their homework. I read that Roger Clemens used to keep a detailed notebook of umpire tendencies and study the living shit out of it.

Valiant · 10-25-2015, 02:22 PM

No, and that pitch was a strike. Just because you crouch down before you swing does not make your zone smaller. Same with when a pitch breaks to the outside. It was still in the zone.

We had the same thing happen to us in Toronto. It is part of baseball.

Mr. Laz · 10-25-2015, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Hell no. I like the gamesmanship of catchers framing pitches. And I like the uncertainty of borderline pitches being called strikes because it forces hitters to attack.

I also like that it rewards teams that do their homework. I read that Roger Clemens used to keep a detailed notebook of umpire tendencies and study the living shit out of it.

So you like when umps squeeze pitchers they don't like and expand the strike zone for the popular pitchers.

An ump can practically decide a game when they do that.

The squeezed pitcher has to basically throw gopher balls while the expanded zone pitcher can force hitters to swing at crap.

KChiefs1 · 10-25-2015, 02:34 PM

ROYC75 · 10-25-2015, 02:35 PM

Absolutely not!

Just no F'en way!

Mr. Derek · 10-25-2015, 04:36 PM

It was time about 20 years ago.

**Shaid** · 10-25-2015, 05:47 PM

Allow 2 challenges a game.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-25-2015, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

So you like when umps squeeze pitchers they don't like and expand the strike zone for the popular pitchers.

An ump can practically decide a game when they do that.

The squeezed pitcher has to basically throw gopher balls while the expanded zone pitcher can force hitters to swing at crap.

Yeah, but like any other league, that's why you need good oversight to not put up with that shit. It should become obvious right away either to the pitcher or team, or to someone overseeing umpires, that this kind of shit happens.

I do agree that a good use of balls/strikes would be a similar system to tennis. Limited # of challenges per game, but those challenges can be made instantly. That way when pitches are really far off the plate, as with Revere, you can challenge it instantly. And maybe within that system you can build in "margin of error" so that it has to be x% off the strike zone to overturn a strike.

**wazu** · 10-25-2015, 06:05 PM

eDave · 10-25-2015, 06:14 PM

Quite ****ing with the game. Thank you.

Mr. Laz · 10-25-2015, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Yeah, but like any other league, that's why you need good oversight to not put up with that shit. It should become obvious right away either to the pitcher or team, or to someone overseeing umpires, that this kind of shit happens.

I do agree that a good use of balls/strikes would be a similar system to tennis. Limited # of challenges per game, but those challenges can be made instantly. That way when pitches are really far off the plate, as with Revere, you can challenge it instantly. And maybe within that system you can build in "margin of error" so that it has to be x% off the strike zone to overturn a strike.

It happens ALL the time in the MLB

inconsistent strike zone
squeezed pitchers
just plain missed calls

I don't want challenges for strikes because it will slow the game waaaaaaay down. Give the ump a google head set with a real time feed to pitch tracking so he can use technology to get the calls right.

The MLB can run test before implementation to see whether umps can accurately use it during a game or not.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-25-2015, 06:56 PM

I become as frustrated as anyone with bad strikes and ball calls but taking the game out of the umpire's hand would effectively ruin the game for me.

In many ways, I think that instant replay has destroyed the NFL and making strikes or balls the responsibility of a computer would dehumanize the game.

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DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $-1663101	I only pretend to know the nuances of baseball strategy, but wouldn't having robots call strikes disproportionately benefit batters? Seems like half of the challenge of batting is making those split second decisions on whether or not to swing, and removing the uncertainty of what might get called around the edges would make their jobs quite a bit easier.
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chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $-1555503	Hell no. I like the gamesmanship of catchers framing pitches. And I like the uncertainty of borderline pitches being called strikes because it forces hitters to attack. I also like that it rewards teams that do their homework. I read that Roger Clemens used to keep a detailed notebook of umpire tendencies and study the living shit out of it.
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