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Old 06-16-2016, 10:53 AM   #1
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What's the appeal in editing a player's stats mid-season?
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Old 06-16-2016, 10:55 AM   #2
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What's the appeal in editing a player's stats mid-season?
I think most people will use it to alter rookie classes. There's not enough variety as it is right now.

It was #1 on the community want list though, apparently.
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Old 06-16-2016, 12:45 PM   #3
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They really need to fix the defensive AI recognition. I hate when dudes online use the same three plays all game.
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Old 06-16-2016, 01:48 PM   #4
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They really need to fix the defensive AI recognition. I hate when dudes online use the same three plays all game.
That has nothing to do with AI recognition, but rather your calling the wrong defenses. If you keep calling 2 man press, and he is running a rub/mesh concept, you will get beat every single time. 4 verticals will trash cover 3 every single time. I didn't use any of those 'nano' glitch blitzes or anything like that to make it that high into ranked, just solid play calling. The trick is, most kids will 'show their hand' right away.. and then you just make one or two defensive adjustments and they are completely shut down. Nano blitzes are easy to stop as well with slide protection & additional hot routed blockers.

M17 has new corrected zones that defend passing concepts correctly, ie buzz zones will sit to corner routes and give the flat up correctly.
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Old 06-16-2016, 01:53 PM   #5
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That has nothing to do with AI recognition, but rather your calling the wrong defenses. If you keep calling 2 man press, and he is running a rub/mesh concept, you will get beat every single time. 4 verticals will trash cover 3 every single time. I didn't use any of those 'nano' glitch blitzes or anything like that to make it that high into ranked, just solid play calling. The trick is, most kids will 'show their hand' right away.. and then you just make one or two defensive adjustments and they are completely shut down. Nano blitzes are easy to stop as well with slide protection & additional hot routed blockers.



M17 has new corrected zones that defend passing concepts correctly, ie buzz zones will sit to corner routes and give the flat up correctly.

If a guy is literally using the same two plays all game my defense should recognize that shit.

I'm sure I could get better at calling correct plays and making pre-snap adjustments though.
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Old 06-16-2016, 02:00 PM   #6
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If a guy is literally using the same two plays all game my defense should recognize that shit.

I'm sure I could get better at calling correct plays and making pre-snap adjustments though.
You are correct- pre snap adjustments you can pretty much create your custom defense on the fly to stop them.

If they are running the same two plays, then YOU should recognize it. Let's say you play a cover 3 sky as base coverage, and he keeps running a bench/flood concept (go route, corner, flat all on one side). By default, Madden cover 3 has a defend in the deep third, and a defend in the flat.. which means he hits the corner route every single time. wide open. Now, you preplay adjustment that flat defender into a buzz zone, and the corner route is taken away. you have to do it with preplay adjustments OR call a defense with buzz zones or a zone that sits on that corner route.

Not a knock on your play calling- just trying to illustrate that there are defenses designed to take away the exact concepts they are beating you with.
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Old 06-16-2016, 02:03 PM   #7
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I can only control one guy and it's hard to do all of those individual pre-snap adjustments in time.

I guess it comes off as me bitching because I'm just not good enough to overcome this but most guys can't, I'd say. Going back to the last few Madden's I've owned I generally win 2 games for every 1 loss.

I just think it's common sense for them to allow your defenders to "remember" certain play calls if your opponent is abusing them.
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Old 06-16-2016, 02:22 PM   #8
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I can only control one guy and it's hard to do all of those individual pre-snap adjustments in time.

I guess it comes off as me bitching because I'm just not good enough to overcome this but most guys can't, I'd say. Going back to the last few Madden's I've owned I generally win 2 games for every 1 loss.

I just think it's common sense for them to allow your defenders to "remember" certain play calls if your opponent is abusing them.
To be fair, defensive zones did not play correctly in M16, which is why so pre-play adjustment was needed to really stop a lot of the 'money' routes. This year should work out well. Eventually, they will get frostbite engine rolled into it, and hopefully we start seeing the Madden series everyone has dreamed of.
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Old 06-19-2016, 08:46 AM   #9
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It'll be the same garbage game as always, with a few tweaks to make you think they've actually improved upon something.
Like my blitzing from the QBs blind side and having a run at the qb for a big hit,only to be foiled at the last moment by the right ****ing tackle kick sliding -all the way across the ****ing pocket , in front of the Qb, to pick me up /block me.

Or the kick off return "blocking", when when you get tackled there are literally 10 opposing players when you're tackled.

It's comical.
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Old 06-20-2016, 07:03 AM   #10
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It'll be the same garbage game as always, with a few tweaks to make you think they've actually improved upon something.
Like my blitzing from the QBs blind side and having a run at the qb for a big hit,only to be foiled at the last moment by the right ****ing tackle kick sliding -all the way across the ****ing pocket , in front of the Qb, to pick me up /block me.

Or the kick off return "blocking", when when you get tackled there are literally 10 opposing players when you're tackled.

It's comical.
Damn, sound like you haven't played since around Madden 15'. Haven't seen a tackle slide across in a few years.
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Old 06-22-2016, 05:20 PM   #11
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Damn, sound like you haven't played since around Madden 15'. Haven't seen a tackle slide across in a few years.
Yeah. I think I have 15 or 16. Which was a gift from my brother in law last year for my birthday. He wasn't aware of my Madden boycott. Lol. It was improved from my last copy which I think was '12 I think. But I can't imagine buying a new copy each year to arrive at what I have now with 15/16(I can't rmemenber).

That game, as it comes out now each year, should be a $35 game at best.
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The icing the kicker thing is stupid. Stats don't back it up and actually show a slight tick in improving chances on game-enders.
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The icing the kicker thing is stupid. Stats don't back it up and actually show a slight tick in improving chances on game-enders.
Yeah if they do make kicking a 3-click thing, meaning once to start the meter, once for power and then once for accuracy, a timeout making it disappear completely would be a bit much.
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Haven't played since 14. Use to love this game but once 2k went away the gameplay became garbage. Also changing the buttons and not allowing a person to change them to the old style.
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Some EA access footage starting to get released now. Looks smooth. I like the new swat feature to counter the aggressive catch from last year. Gonna miss lobbing it up to Kelce though


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