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Old 08-25-2016, 01:02 PM   #1
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2013 NFL Draft

1. Eric Fisher: 43 starts, just signed an extension

2. Luke Joekel: 35 starts, moved from tackle to guard

3. Dion Jordan: 1 start out of 48 possible starts, suspended for a year. 3 sacks.

4. Lane Johnson: 44 starts at right tackle, 4 game suspension in 2013, extended in 2016 before 10 game suspension in 2016

5. Ziggy Ansah: 128 tackles, 30 sacks, 2015 Pro Bowler

6. Barkevious Mingo: 16 starts, 7 sacks, traded to NE.

7. Johnathan Cooper: Missed 2013 w/broken leg, 24 starts, traded to NE.

8. Tavon Austin: 25 starts, 1,133 yards, 7 TD's

9. Dee Milliner: 14 starts, 3 INT's, 30 tackles

10. Chance Warmack: 46 starts at right guard on the worst team in the NFL.
Ansah might be the only top 10 pick that has arguably been better, and he's not really a fit in our 3-4. Great job Dorsey.
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Old 08-25-2016, 01:25 PM   #2
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Ansah might be the only top 10 pick that has arguably been better, and he's not really a fit in our 3-4. Great job Dorsey.
I like Fisher better for the future but Lane Johnson has also been better than him thus far.
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Old 08-25-2016, 01:34 PM   #3
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I like Fisher better for the future but Lane Johnson has also been better than him thus far.
Hard to be "better" when you're suspended all of the time. Johnson is also playing RT.
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Old 08-25-2016, 01:39 PM   #4
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I like Fisher better for the future but Lane Johnson has also been better than him thus far.
Lane Johnson's been a right tackle his entire NFL career, ****tard
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Old 08-25-2016, 05:17 PM   #5
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Lane Johnson's been a right tackle his entire NFL career, ****tard
Did you not see the red under his name? I quickly gathered how it accumulated with his post that you just responded to.
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Old 08-25-2016, 01:36 PM   #6
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2013 NFL Draft

1. Eric Fisher: 43 starts, just signed an extension

2. Luke Joekel: 35 starts, moved from tackle to guard in 2016

3. Dion Jordan: 1 start out of 48 possible starts, suspended for a year. 3 sacks.

4. Lane Johnson: 44 starts at right tackle, 4 game suspension in 2013, extended in 2016 before 10 game suspension in 2016

5. Ziggy Ansah: 128 tackles, 30 sacks, 2015 Pro Bowler

6. Barkevious Mingo: 16 starts, 7 sacks, traded to NE.

7. Johnathan Cooper: Missed 2013 w/broken leg, 24 starts, traded to NE.

8. Tavon Austin: 25 starts, 1,133 yards, 7 TD's

9. Dee Milliner: 14 starts, 3 INT's, 30 tackles

10. Chance Warmack: 46 starts at right guard on the worst team in the NFL.
God what a shit top 10 to draft from...
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Old 08-25-2016, 01:46 PM   #7
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God what a shit top 10 to draft from...

And just to prove that NFL drafting is more art than science -- more Pro Bowlers were drafted in the bottom 10 picks of the round than the top 10!



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_NFL_Draft
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Old 08-25-2016, 01:53 PM   #8
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And just to prove that NFL drafting is more art than science -- more Pro Bowlers were drafted in the bottom 10 picks of the round than the top 10!



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_NFL_Draft
I'm not surprised. Usually the top 10 has a pretty solid base of obvious NFL talent.
There wasn't one stand-out sure fire talent available in that whole round. Any other draft those guys are second rounders so it was a crap shoot from go.
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Old 08-25-2016, 01:54 PM   #9
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And just to prove that NFL drafting is more art than science -- more Pro Bowlers were drafted in the bottom 10 picks of the round than the top 10!



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_NFL_Draft
And the Chiefs best draft pick of 2013 was taken in the 3rd round
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Old 08-25-2016, 02:04 PM   #10
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I watched the Falcons/Browns game and Mingo was playing in the 4th quarter with the scrubs. The announcers were talking about how lost he was. I hope the pats only gave up a future 7th or something because this guy isn't going to amount to squat.
I was hoping they gave up 3 firsts. Why? Scott "Frachise Killer" Pioli left his mark here.
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Old 08-25-2016, 05:28 PM   #11
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And just to prove that NFL drafting is more art than science -- more Pro Bowlers were drafted in the bottom 10 picks of the round than the top 10!



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_NFL_Draft
I don't think that fact highlights what you're intending. Guys drafted later are on better teams; therefore, are surrounded by better talent and able to focus on their responsibilities. It could be the result of a better scout/GM drafting. They are also, most likely, better coached.

I think the info you just provided illustrates why the top teams are at the top, rather than the players' ability.
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God what a shit top 10 to draft from...
Most of that first round was crap.
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2013 NFL Draft

1. Eric Fisher: 43 starts, just signed an extension

2. Luke Joekel: 35 starts, moved from tackle to guard in 2016

3. Dion Jordan: 1 start out of 48 possible starts, suspended for a year. 3 sacks.

4. Lane Johnson: 44 starts at right tackle, 4 game suspension in 2013, extended in 2016 before 10 game suspension in 2016

5. Ziggy Ansah: 128 tackles, 30 sacks, 2015 Pro Bowler

6. Barkevious Mingo: 16 starts, 7 sacks, traded to NE.

7. Johnathan Cooper: Missed 2013 w/broken leg, 24 starts, traded to NE.

8. Tavon Austin: 25 starts, 1,133 yards, 7 TD's

9. Dee Milliner: 14 starts, 3 INT's, 30 tackles

10. Chance Warmack: 46 starts at right guard on the worst team in the NFL.
Redraft!

Leveon Bell and DeAdre Hopkins go top 10!!
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Old 08-25-2016, 05:55 PM   #14
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Redraft!

Leveon Bell and DeAdre Hopkins go top 10!!
Funny. NFL.com did a re-draft a while ago and the Chiefs took Hopkins at #1 overall.
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2013 NFL Draft

1. Eric Fisher: 43 starts, just signed an extension

2. Luke Joekel: 35 starts, moved from tackle to guard in 2016

3. Dion Jordan: 1 start out of 48 possible starts, suspended for a year. 3 sacks.

4. Lane Johnson: 44 starts at right tackle, 4 game suspension in 2013, extended in 2016 before 10 game suspension in 2016

5. Ziggy Ansah: 128 tackles, 30 sacks, 2015 Pro Bowler

6. Barkevious Mingo: 16 starts, 7 sacks, traded to NE.

7. Johnathan Cooper: Missed 2013 w/broken leg, 24 starts, traded to NE.

8. Tavon Austin: 25 starts, 1,133 yards, 7 TD's

9. Dee Milliner: 14 starts, 3 INT's, 30 tackles

10. Chance Warmack: 46 starts at right guard on the worst team in the NFL.
It was perhaps not 100% the right pick, hmm Mr. Staylor?

But hey, I'm sure Fisher is a valuable and regular customer of Bass PRO shop, so there's that.
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