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Old 01-15-2017, 11:02 PM  
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As a ref, how can you possibly make that call??

Besides all the bullshit, How, as a ref, can you make that call in a playoff game. Team is trailing by 2, going for a 2pnt conversion, and you call a holding call, something both teams have been doing all game.. if youve been calling them all game, sure call it, but you werent, and havent been. How could you not see the hold did not affect the outcome of the play? By the time the "hold" even occured which was more of harrison just deciding to flail to the ground like a little bitch, the ball was WELL out of smiths hands and going to the endzone at the point of this "hold"... So again, as a ref, how can you not look at the hold, then look at Smith and see the hold wouldve not affected the outcome of the play? Its BULL SHIT to make that call in a situation like that... And btw, this is the same crew working the superbowl.
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Old 01-15-2017, 11:08 PM   #16
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That flag was thrown before the ball was snapped....there were worse calls all game long that were not called. Refs bent us over on our own field.
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Old 01-15-2017, 11:09 PM   #17
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Old 01-15-2017, 11:09 PM   #18
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Old 01-15-2017, 11:10 PM   #19
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That flag was thrown before the ball was snapped....there were worse calls all game long that were not called. Refs bent us over on our own field.
Yup. Hard to beat the refs and the Steelers while overcoming shit play calls.
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Old 01-15-2017, 11:12 PM   #20
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Wasn't Goodell at the game tonight? Perhaps keeping an eye on things to make sure the correct pieces fall where they should?
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Old 01-15-2017, 11:13 PM   #21
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Watch the replay again. Harrison shoots outside quick and Fisher is just leading him out, it was a good play. Then watch again and see that Harrison loses his footing and falls.

If that's a hold then they better be calling a hold on every play.

Get off your high horse.


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Old 01-15-2017, 11:14 PM   #22
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That flag was thrown before the ball was snapped....there were worse calls all game long that were not called. Refs bent us over on our own field.
I don't tend to agree with Pete, but I do here.
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Old 01-15-2017, 11:33 PM   #23
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All you guys acting like it was a good call are full of shit and you know it
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Old 01-15-2017, 11:40 PM   #24
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Fisher better have the offseason of his life. His footwork is ****.
It's not just the footwork. He doesn't punch his hands. First thing we were taught as a young OL.
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Old 01-15-2017, 11:42 PM   #25
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Definition of Holding:

Use his hands or arms to materially restrict an opponent or alter the defender’s path or angle of pursuit. It is a foul regardless of whether the blocker’s hands are inside or outside the frame of the defender’s body. Material restrictions include but are not limited to:
grabbing or tackling an opponent;
hooking, jerking, twisting, or turning him; or
pulling him to the ground.


Exception: Holding will be called if the defender’s feet are taken away from him by the offensive player’s action.

If a blocker falls on or pushes down a defender whose momentum is carrying him to the ground, Offensive Holding will not be called unless the blocker prevents the defender from rising from the ground.
If the official has not seen the entire action that sends a defender to the ground, Offensive Holding will not be called.
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Old 01-15-2017, 11:44 PM   #26
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So the last part clearly states that it should not have been called. Harrison lost his footing and Fisher fell on him.
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It seems clear to me that fisher did not grab or tackle, hook, jerk, twist, turn or pull him to the ground.

Harrison hooks his arm to lean into fisher to get around the edge and then slips. This clearly falls under the exception that
"If a blocker falls on or pushes down a defender whose momentum is carrying him to the ground, Offensive Holding will not be called unless the blocker prevents the defender from rising from the ground."
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Old 01-15-2017, 11:46 PM   #28
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Fisher wont ever live up to his draft selection.

Won't even come close to it. He's improved a great deal since he was drafted, but he's just an average OT.
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Definition of Holding:

Use his hands or arms to materially restrict an opponent or alter the defender’s path or angle of pursuit. It is a foul regardless of whether the blocker’s hands are inside or outside the frame of the defender’s body. Material restrictions include but are not limited to:
grabbing or tackling an opponent;
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Exception: Holding will be called if the defender’s feet are taken away from him by the offensive player’s action.

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If the official has not seen the entire action that sends a defender to the ground, Offensive Holding will not be called.






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