The First Round QB

[ILChief]

OK, everyone knows it is beyond ridiculous that the Chiefs haven't drafted a QB in round 1 since Todd Blackledge in 1983. As much as I love Derrick Johnson, I can't look at him without thinking of Aaron Rodgers. That got me thinking, how many first round QB's have the other teams taken in that time span? Has every other team taken multiple first round QBs since 1983? Well, here is the breakdown:

Patriots: Drew Bledsoe (93)
Bills: JP Losman (04), EJ Manuel (13)
Jets: Chad Pennington (00), Mark Sanchez (09)
Dolphins: Ryan Tannehill (12)

Steelers: Ben Roethlisberger (04)
Bengals: David Klingler (92), Akili Smith (99), Carson Palmer (03)
Old Browns/Ravens: Kyle Boller (03), Joe Flacco (08)
New Browns: Tim Couch (99), Brady Quinn (07), Branden Weeden (12), Johnny Manziel (14)

Texans: David Carr (02)
Oilers/Titans: Jim Everett (86), Steve McNair (94), Vince Young (06), Jake Locker (11), Marcus Mariota (15)
Jaguars: Byron Leftwich (03), Blaine Gabbert (11), Blake Bortles (14)
Colts: Jeff George (90), Peyton Manning (98), Andrew Luck (12)

Broncos: Tommy Maddox (92), Jay Cutler (06), Tim Tebow (10), Paxton Lynch (16)
Raiders: Todd Marinovich (91), Jamarcus Russell (07)
Chargers: Ryan Leaf (98), Philip Rivers (04)

Cowboys: Troy Aikman (89)
Eagles: Donovan McNabb (99), Carson Wentz (16)
Giants: Eli Manning (04)
Redskins: Heath Shuler (94), Patrick Ramsey (02), Jason Campbell (05), Robert Griffin III (12)

Packers: Aaron Rodgers (05)
Bears: Jim Harbaugh (87), Cade McNown (99), Rex Grossman (03)
Vikings: Daunte Culpepper (99), Christian Ponder (11), Teddy Bridgewater (14)
Lions: Chuck Long (86), Andre Ware (90), Joey Harrington (02), Matt Stafford (09)

Panthers: Kerry Collins (94), Cam Newton (11)
Bucs: Vinny Testaverde (87), Trent Dilfer (94), Josh Freeman (09), Jameis Winston (15)
Saints: None
Falcons: Chris Miller (87), Michael Vick (01), Matt Ryan (08)

49ers: Jim Druckenmiller (97), Alex Smith (05)
Seahawks: Dan McGwire (91), Rick Mirer (93)
Rams: Sam Bradford (10), Jared Goff (16)
Cardinals: Kelly Stouffer (87), Matt Leinart (06)

Notes:
The Saints are the only other team to not draft a first round QB in that time (although they have had a franchise QB for a decade plus so they haven't really needed one)

The teams that have only drafted one QB in that time frame have all had a franchise QB for an extended period (except the Texans and they are a new team)

Embarassing

[TribalElder]

The saints way


First round qb way too risky

Omaha Omaha

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Did not know that but that said Eli Manning was drafted by the Chargers and Rivers by the NYG...

Eli was a spoiled brat crybaby and Rivers manned up.

[keg in kc]

It'd be interesting to see it taken through 3 rounds. I think the focus is a little too intent on the first round. If you're taking a guy in the second you're still looking for him to start at some point. Third round is more borderline, but you're probably still not thinking 'career backup at best' at that range. Forth and later, I'd say you're not really spending much at that point in either picks or money, so I don't consider it enough effort that it's actively trying.

And that's the issue here: for nearly 35 years we haven't been trying. At all. One retread after another, with the occasional low draft pick thrown at somebody who isn't likely to ever do anything.

I just want to try something else. For all the talk about how mising on high picks have hurt teams and how, occasionally, somebody Dilfer's their way to a title, the fact is that we've tried the 'safe' route through three different GM's and a handful of head coaches and netted exactly zero conference championships, much less Superbowls.

It. Hasn't. Worked.

So, seriously, what do we lose by trying something else for a bit? Is the franchise going to be set back in some way? Set back how, exactly? The'll miss out on the dynasty they haven't had anyway?

Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by TribalElder

The saints way


First round qb way too risky

Omaha Omaha

Just silly.

It's not even risky to draft a QB in the 1st round anymore. Why do idiots keep saying this crap? It used to be risky when teams had to pay 50 million dollars to a 1st round QB.

Now drafting a QB in the 1st round isn't much different than any other position.

We will draft a QB in the 1st round as soon as Andy Reid considers the QB position to be a high enough need for the team to warrant a 1st round pick.

Right now I see no indication that Reid isn't happy with Alex Smith.

That's has nothing to do with risk.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Eli was a spoiled brat crybaby and Rivers manned up.

And the results were excellent for San Diego.

They no longer have a team, have repeatedly landed in 4th place and will play in a soccer stadium that seats 30,000 for two years, at least.

Eli won.

[DaFace]

On the other hand, there is a counterargument here that many of the teams that have taken tons of first round QB's and haven't amounted to jack shit.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by TribalElder

The saints way


First round qb way too risky

Omaha Omaha

The Saints way ? Hell, that's the Chiefs way. The Saints just got lucky when the opportunity to sign D.B. came along.

What's the risk ? Ending up with a QB that doesn't take you through the playoffs to the Super Bowl ?
Passing up on other 1st round talent that could help the team ? Help the team what ? Be almost good enough to make it through the playoffs to the Super Bowl ?

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by DaFace

On the other hand, there is a counterargument here that many of the teams that have taken tons of first round QB's and haven't amounted to jack shit.

Reminds me of the old saying " I would rather try and fail than never have tried at all".

[KC_Lee]

Originally Posted by DaFace

On the other hand, there is a counterargument here that many of the teams that have taken tons of first round QB's and haven't amounted to jack shit.

You can say that about almost any position regarding first round picks, with the exception of punters and kickers.

For example; why draft a LT in the first round since Trezell Jenkins was a bust, have to wait for the next Orlando Pace to come around before you draft one in the first round.

[KC_Lee]

Originally Posted by IowaChiefs83

Of that long list only seven first round QBs have won a SB. While several have set franchises back for years.

Given the current rookie salary cap that is less of argument then it was just a few years back.

[New World Order]

3 of the 4 teams that are playing this weekend have quarterbacks that were drafted in the first round.

[KC_Lee]

Originally Posted by New World Order

3 of the 4 teams that are playing this weekend have quarterbacks that were drafted in the first round.

And all 4 are starting QBs that they drafted themselves. Must be some sort of fluke, like all 1 seeds making it to the Final Four, it's so rare.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by New World Order

3 of the 4 teams that are playing this weekend have quarterbacks that were drafted in the first round.

That can't be right. It's too risky for teams to draft a QB in the 1st round. I read that on Chiefs Planet several times so it must be true.

[Rain Man]

I'm counting 72 quarterbacks taken by 31 teams (more or less), which amounts to 2.3 quarterbacks taken on average. So we're missing essentially two quarterbacks who should've been on our roster.

Of those 72, if I work backwards through time and pick the 24th and 48th as our two (assuming that we drafted at even time intervals throughout that period, those two quarterbacks would be Joe Flacco and Akili Smith. The Akili era would've been challenging, but I wouldn't mind having Joe Flacco, I guess.

We need to start asking the question. "Where is our Flacco?"

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by ILChief

if we pick one and he's a bust, so be it. People are fine with DL busts like Tyson Jackson or Ryan Sims. That didn't stop us from drafting DL.

Who was fine with them?