Underrated thing about the Chiefs in the Dorsey/Veach era: trades.

[Direckshun]

I had a conversation and it came up that the Chiefs win all their trades.

They sure seem to, right? What trades in the Reid era, which of course includes General Managers John Dorsey and Brett Veach, can we definitively say we lost?

I think the closest you can get is some of the trade-ups in the draft, in particular the 2nd round, under Veach that ended up biting us in the tail and I think you can argue we lost those, but I think that's hard to evaluate.

As far as player-for-player, pick-for-player, or player-for-pick, I can't think of a single trade during this era where you can say "absolutely they lost that one for sure."

Maybe two seconds for Alex Smith? Hard to complain a ton about that, though.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Shoes

-Chiefs trade up for Breeland Speaks

I might be splitting hairs here.

I see that as a bad pick and not necessarily a bad trade.

We traded 54 and 78 for 46 and 100. That isn’t necessarily a bad trade.

We just whiffed horribly with that pick. To me, that’s more of a negative in Veach’s “draft” column than his “trade” column.

I just double checked the trade value chart. We lost that trade by 20 points (the equivalent of a 6th round pick). Not a great trade, but still more of a bad pick than trade.

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Russell Wilson is a weirdo douchebag, but in no realm is Alex Smith anywhere close to as talented as Russell. Not even an almost 34 year old Wilson.

You wouldn't believe the things they've talked themselves into in the Bronco thread. Today someone said that Wilson is basically the same as Bridgewater.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

You wouldn't believe the things they've talked themselves into in the Bronco thread. Today someone said that Wilson is basically the same as Bridgewater.

A less likable Teddy sure

[Wilson8]

Maybe the Frank Clark trade was a push.

We got one good year out of Clark. We have also been stuck with a huge albatross around our necks contract.

Seattle got DE L.J. Collier who has done nothing. Seattle traded the 2nd round pick it got from Kansas City in 2020 for two other picks and ended up with guard Damien Lewis and end Alton Robinson. Alton has been a backup DE with 44 tackles in 2 years and Damien Lewis has been a starting guard.

Maybe Seattle won because of the money that they saved in the trade.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

He helped us win a Super Bowl, but it’s hard to argue that we won the Frank Clark trade

Let's examine this.

Why do we make trades? To improve our team.

Why? So that we can win a championship.

Frank Clark was a huge part of a culture change on defense. Bringing attitude to the defense.

His playoff run was phenomenal. Ended every game with a sack, and more importantly, talked MAD SHIT on Derrick Henry who had been taking the Souls of opposing defenses to the tune of 200+ rushing yards, and helped hold Henry to 67 yards rushing. After Henry was stoned back to back on 2nd and 1 and 3rd and 1, he never saw the football again in that second half.

Talked MAD SHIT down 10 in the superbowl, even when things looked grim. Frank was shouting yall know what we bout to do. We bout to send yall asses home.

It helped keep the defense in the game. Playing hard instead of folding when the offense kept turning it over.

Has Frank been worth the money? How much does that championship mean to you?

It means everything to me. I have friends and family who died before they could see the Chiefs win it all again. It validated over two decades of loyalty despite soul crushing losses year after year.

Frank was a huge part of making that happen. He was brought in to help win a title. And we won the title.

He hasn't been great since, but we absolutely won that ****ing trade.

[raybec 4]

If they can't sign OBJ or recoup something for him in another trade you could argue that giving up a 1st rounder for 2 years of "serviceable" left tackle play is a loss. We will see.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by raybec 4

If they can't sign OBJ or recoup something for him in another trade you could argue that giving up a 1st rounder for 2 years of "serviceable" left tackle play is a loss. We will see.

We gave up a first but got a second back.

That additional second rounder allowed us to draft both Creed and Bolton.

We can still flip out of OBJ next year if we choose.

I think that trade has been a huge success.

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

You wouldn't believe the things they've talked themselves into in the Bronco thread. Today someone said that Wilson is basically the same as Bridgewater.

Were there stats similar last season? And yeah some of you turds have talked yourself into this being Manning 2.0. It’s not

[Wilson8]

The Brett Veach 2018 trade for CB Charvarius Ward for OL Parker Ehinger with Dallas Cowboys was a big win

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Do we win the Super Bowl without him?

I am not sold that we do.

The Royals don’t win a World Series without Christian Colon

[Wilson8]

Chiefs traded OL Yasir Durant to Patriots for 7th round pick which we used for CB Jaylen Watson. If Watson continues to improve, that will be a big win!

[scho63]

Dude, did you just do 5 rails of coke?

WTF with all these threads?

[Wilson8]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Oh wait!

I think we traded a 5th for Cameron Erving.

We can laugh now at this trade, but Erving was a former 1st round pick (15), he was still on his rookie contract, and the Chiefs needed backup offensive linemen. Turns out he played a lot more than we planned but without him you really had nobody.

[Wilson8]

Originally Posted by scho63

Dude, did you just do 5 rails of coke?

WTF with all these threads?

I think it is called waiting for the NFL season to begin

[Wilson8]

Laurent Duvernay-Tardif for TE Dan Brown and part of LDT's salary.