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Old 11-06-2006, 05:25 PM   #1
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If Green returns, I think we'll say an increase in Samie Parker's production.

I don't know whether or not that is a good thing...
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Old 11-06-2006, 05:28 PM   #2
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Tony didn't become our yards from scrimmage "all time" leader without Green throwing to him.
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Old 11-06-2006, 05:30 PM   #3
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Tony didn't become our yards from scrimmage "all time" leader without Green throwing to him.
Gonzalez found the end zone a whole lot more with GrBac as our QB...

Green >>>>>>>> GrBac

So don't even try and get me on this one.
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Old 11-06-2006, 05:33 PM   #4
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Gonzalez found the end zone a whole lot more with GrBac as our QB...

Green >>>>>>>> GrBac

So don't even try and get me on this one.
You kind of refuted yourself here....

Even if it were true that Huard finds Gonzo in the endzone more, by your own logic it wouldn't mean that Huard > Green.

Besides its not like Gonzo has gotten alot of TDS this year, before yesterday he had one.
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Old 11-06-2006, 05:36 PM   #5
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You kind of refuted yourself here....

Even if it were true that Huard finds Gonzo in the endzone more, by your own logic it wouldn't mean that Huard > Green.

Besides its not like Gonzo has gotten alot of TDS this year, before yesterday he had one.
I guess...

I really don't care who finds the end zone as long as we're scoring.

Comparing GrBac to Green/Huard and the way Gonzalez is used was pretty stupid...so you're right.
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Old 11-06-2006, 05:35 PM   #6
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Gonzalez found the end zone a whole lot more with GrBac as our QB...
Really? I didn't say anything about TD's I was refering to Yds. But you're wrong on both counts.

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Year	Team	               G	GS	Rec	Yds	Avg	Lg	TD	20+	40+	1st
1997	Kansas City Chiefs	16	0	33	368	11.2	30	2	5	0	21
1998	Kansas City Chiefs	16	16	59	621	10.5	32	2	6	0	33
1999	Kansas City Chiefs	15	15	76	849	11.2	73	11	8	1	47
2000	Kansas City Chiefs	16	16	93	1203	12.9	39	9	16	0	66
2001	Kansas City Chiefs	16	16	73	917	12.6	36	6	13	0	49
2002	Kansas City Chiefs	16	16	63	773	12.3	42	7	10	1	39
2003	Kansas City Chiefs	16	16	71	916	12.9	67	10	14	2	48
2004	Kansas City Chiefs	16	16	102	1258	12.3	32	7	19	0	69
2005	Kansas City Chiefs	16	16	78	905	11.6	39	2	9	0	45
2006	Kansas City Chiefs	8	8	38	504	13.3	57	3	7	1	27

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Old 11-06-2006, 05:35 PM   #7
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he was blocking a DL or LB because Green couldn't get through all of his reads without getting sacked...you know, all of those extra reads he makes that Huard can't do...
This is a good point, and I'd agree that everything we've said about Green getting more reads depends on the o-line being able to give him the time. I could also agree that I'd like to stick with the game plan that we've been doing...for the most part...even with Green in the game.

Experience is the major factor here for me. We've gotten the same production out of both guys. When stats are the same, you move on to something else. Green has been a starter in this league for many years. Huard has had his chances and has NOT been able to win that job...ever. He's a backup, and I think there are reasons for that far beyond what any of us think we know.

If this team does make it to the playoffs, or even big games that could get us there, I'd rather have the guy who's seen all of these defenses before. The guy who can read blitz packages without even thinking about it because he's played these teams so many times and he's seen their packages so many times.

One bad read against a good team close to playoff time is all it would take to send us home.
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Old 11-06-2006, 05:37 PM   #8
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When stats are the same, you move on to something else.
Exactly.
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Old 11-06-2006, 05:41 PM   #9
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Tony's TD rec. fell off in 2005 but still had a better year than all but one with GrBac.
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Old 11-06-2006, 05:43 PM   #10
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Old 11-06-2006, 05:47 PM   #11
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and I don't think it'll ever come to that...

If Herm decides on Huard...we'll continue to hear about another setback blah blah blah until eventually Green will suit up, be our emergency QB...and if something actually happens to Huard I wouldn't be surprised to see Green enter the game...

I don't think Herm is going to come out and name Huard the starting QB...but I think it's 50/50 right now on whether or not Huard will finish the season as starter.
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Old 11-12-2006, 12:54 PM   #12
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Prime example of the release time. 11:20 left in first half and we go deep. Kennison is wide open down the right sideline and the camera finds him...1...2...3 full seconds of nobody but Kennison in the screen while he's waiting on the ball. Meanwhile the safety catches him and knocks it away.

Green would have had that ball in his chest immediately when he turned around and he'd have been gone. Remember that play against the Bills in 2003 when he stuck Dante Hall down the sideline on the same play? How about when he stuck Kennison on '04 against the Pats?

Receivers have to wait on Huard's passes. Not Green's.
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Old 11-12-2006, 03:17 PM   #14
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FWIW, Trent Green has NEVER turned in this low of a passing percentage in any game he has ever played that he threw at least than 2 passes.

Huard - 39.4% pass completion today.


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FWIW, Trent Green has NEVER turned in this low of a passing percentage in any game he has ever played that he threw at least than 2 passes.

Huard - 39.4% pass completion today.
And you could have very easily added a couple of INT's to that performance if Miami could have caught the ball.

that one where Taylor almost stole the screen pass was rediculous. Huard didn't even glance that direction before lazily tossing it up in the air over there.
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