Chiefs Why you should be scared... - Page 20

jwhit · 11-08-2009, 05:01 PM

Pioli and Haley thought this team would be competitive. They thought we had a shot at winning eight games.

Everyone wants to talk about how bad the roster is and how we have to cut them slack because they're digging out from Peterson and Herm's mess. This is no different from the last Chiefs team. Peterson and Herm thought that roster was capable of being competitive. They thought we could win six or seven with last year's roster.

Pioli and Haley thought we could win eight or more with what they've put out there.

Do they know what it takes to win football games? It takes players. Not signs or media policies or Pentagon-like security or secrets or cursing at the players. Players win football games.

22 guys off the street could win two games. We're halfway home and the Chiefs have one victory.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-09-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

He's not dogging it.

He's not the type.

Well, he'll be "not dogging it" somewhere else now.

wild1 · 11-09-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

I wonder what Jason would be saying if it was Herm or one of his other faves that had 1 win, would it be the same kind of harangues every frickin time?

Of course not.

Herm, Cryin' Waters, Larry Johnson, Dwayne Bowe earlier in the year - those folks get a pass.

Pioli and Haley better straighten up and fly right, or else.

Otter · 11-09-2009, 03:19 PM

You're butt hurt because they cut you off. End of story.

|Zach| · 11-09-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

I wonder what Jason would be saying if it was Herm or one of his other faves that had 1 win, would it be the same kind of harangues every frickin time?

Or would he, atleast once in a while, try to break things down like the pro he always trumpets himself as?

You need a new market Jason, if this is all you're ever going to do.

Yes, because Herm was never criticized.

GloryDayz · 11-09-2009, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jwhit

Pioli and Haley thought this team would be competitive. They thought we had a shot at winning eight games.

Everyone wants to talk about how bad the roster is and how we have to cut them slack because they're digging out from Peterson and Herm's mess. This is no different from the last Chiefs team. Peterson and Herm thought that roster was capable of being competitive. They thought we could win six or seven with last year's roster.

Pioli and Haley thought we could win eight or more with what they've put out there.

Do they know what it takes to win football games? It takes players. Not signs or media policies or Pentagon-like security or secrets or cursing at the players. Players win football games.

22 guys off the street could win two games. We're halfway home and the Chiefs have one victory.

"Do they know what it takes to win football games?" Well, no!!

BIG_DADDY · 11-09-2009, 03:23 PM

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-09-2009, 03:26 PM

"You're just mad at Carl, Scott, Larry, Moe and Curly, and you're being a BIG DOO-DOO HEAD ABOUT IT!!!!ELEVENTY TO THE SECOND QUANTUUM EQUATION OF PI!!!!!!@@@@1111

**Easy 6** · 11-09-2009, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

Yes, because Herm was never criticized.

Well it sure as hell wasnt Whitlock doing it, not at this level of consistency.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 11-09-2009, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Well it sure as hell wasnt Whitlock doing it, not at this level of consistency.

It's definitely more personal, and completely understandable. But draw a line. There's plenty of shit to stir up. Why stick to the same bitter topic over and over again? Move on and revisit it later. Much later.

**Easy 6** · 11-09-2009, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

It's definitely more personal, and completely understandable. But draw a line. There's plenty of shit to stir up. Why stick to the same bitter topic over and over again? Move on and revisit it later. Much later.

Agreed, try talking actual football a few times & people might not get so tired of his shtick.

**MahiMike** · 11-10-2009, 07:54 AM

Alright, I just spent a portion of my morning rummaging through this interesting thread. Here are my takes, FWIW:

- Nice to see the Planet visited by the media (even if it is Whitlock...lol)

- Jason, you used to be my favorite writer in KC. You were the only "No" man in a sea of "Yes" men writers during the King Carl days. I thank you for liberating us from Carl and Herm. That said, your schtick has now worn thin. You need a new one. Somehow, even Gretz has surpassed you for Chiefs enlightenment.

- Comparison to Gretz #2; how come Bob puts out 3 articles per day and you can only muster that many per month? Just sayin'.

- You guys can argue our run defense if you like, but MJD was stuffed for most of the day. I was stoked (especially since I played against him in FF) that he only had 66 yds and no TDs late in the 4th qtr.

- I love Haley but he has too much on his plate. He needs an OC to tell him to go for it on 4th and short. And to run up the gut on 3rd and short.

- For those of you Bowe lovers wondering why we don't look his way, try watching how (un)open he is from up in the stands. He makes a lot of circus catches because he's covered while making them. There's a reason why Cassel is looking other places (and why Haley keeps acquiring players).

- Pluses from Sunday; our D line had its best game of the year, our running game looked far superior to the LJ attack.

- Negatives from Sunday; Haley's 3rd/4th and short play calling, dump off passes galore, dropped/whiffed passes, big plays given up from defensive secondary, abandoning the run. (Again, needing an OC or someone to help point out to Todd what the actual stats are. I think he's so used to the running game not working, he automatically abandoned it).

- Bottom line, we should all be ecstatic that we look this bad right now. In a long term plan, who cares about progress this year? This entire season is simply one long preseason. We're just trying out players to see who we'll keep for next season. I'd be more scared if we were making progress with guys we don't really want.

SenselessChiefsFan · 11-10-2009, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

No one likes to say it but Todd Haley is a worse coach than Herm, the guy is possibly the worst gameday coach I have ever seen.

This.

I hate it, but anyone objective person knows its true.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-10-2009, 09:01 AM

I really, really hope Haley turns it around so I can have endless fun bumping these threads with posts from sensiblejackass.

Herm Edwards was the worst coach I've ever seen. I'm glad all of you are ready to annoint Haley as the worst after 8 games.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-10-2009, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

This.

I hate it, but anyone objective person knows its true.

What a load.

If Todd Haley is making the same stupid mistakes as Herm Edwards next year as a head coach, then this can be brought up.

jidar · 11-10-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

True enough, but I'm not going take being blasted for agreeing with JWhit when he's right by you or anyone else.

Assuming his take about The Great Haoli thinking they could go .500 with this roster is accurate, there is absolutely NOTHING to argue against his take.
Nothing.
Period.

You'll take whatever gets posted dipshit.

11-08-2009, 05:01 PM
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MahiMike He's Mahomie! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Jax, FL Casino cash: $10023443	Alright, I just spent a portion of my morning rummaging through this interesting thread. Here are my takes, FWIW: - Nice to see the Planet visited by the media (even if it is Whitlock...lol) - Jason, you used to be my favorite writer in KC. You were the only "No" man in a sea of "Yes" men writers during the King Carl days. I thank you for liberating us from Carl and Herm. That said, your schtick has now worn thin. You need a new one. Somehow, even Gretz has surpassed you for Chiefs enlightenment. - Comparison to Gretz #2; how come Bob puts out 3 articles per day and you can only muster that many per month? Just sayin'. - You guys can argue our run defense if you like, but MJD was stuffed for most of the day. I was stoked (especially since I played against him in FF) that he only had 66 yds and no TDs late in the 4th qtr. - I love Haley but he has too much on his plate. He needs an OC to tell him to go for it on 4th and short. And to run up the gut on 3rd and short. - For those of you Bowe lovers wondering why we don't look his way, try watching how (un)open he is from up in the stands. He makes a lot of circus catches because he's covered while making them. There's a reason why Cassel is looking other places (and why Haley keeps acquiring players). - Pluses from Sunday; our D line had its best game of the year, our running game looked far superior to the LJ attack. - Negatives from Sunday; Haley's 3rd/4th and short play calling, dump off passes galore, dropped/whiffed passes, big plays given up from defensive secondary, abandoning the run. (Again, needing an OC or someone to help point out to Todd what the actual stats are. I think he's so used to the running game not working, he automatically abandoned it). - Bottom line, we should all be ecstatic that we look this bad right now. In a long term plan, who cares about progress this year? This entire season is simply one long preseason. We're just trying out players to see who we'll keep for next season. I'd be more scared if we were making progress with guys we don't really want. __________________ 99.9%
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