Chiefs Peter King: The Chiefs will never take a safety that high - Page 20

milkman · 03-17-2010, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I'm beginning to lean towards them trading down and taking a linebacker. Pioli comes from a background that loves to draft linebackers high. And he needs one, bad.

Really.

There's Jarod Mayo and........

Hammock Parties · 03-17-2010, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Really.

There's Jarod Mayo and........

Look at Parcells' draft history.

milkman · 03-17-2010, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Look at Parcells' draft history.

That's reaching.

Deberg_1990 · 03-17-2010, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I'm beginning to lean towards them trading down and taking a linebacker. Pioli comes from a background that loves to draft linebackers high. And he needs one, bad.

Seriously??

You would rather a linebacker than Claussen, Okung or Berry??

milkman · 03-17-2010, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Seriously??

You would rather a linebacker than Claussen, Okung or Berry??

I can't speak for GC, but rather than Okung, you bet.

Deberg_1990 · 03-17-2010, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I can't speak for GC, but rather than Okung, you bet.

im really not up on how all the positions grade out...

But it all depends on how deep this draft is at certain positions.

For instance, is Okung really that much better than a 2nd or 3rd round guy? Is Berry? Is Claussen? If not, then yea, i would pass and try and drop down if possible.

If im a GM and felt that one of them was a "special" talent, then no..you shouldnt pass on guys like that.

Hammock Parties · 03-17-2010, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Seriously??

You would rather a linebacker than Claussen, Okung or Berry??

No. I'm leaning towards Pioli drafting a linebacker. But if you put a gun to my head I'd take McClain over Okung, sure.

SDChiefs · 03-17-2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I want Berry or Clausen at #5.....but I'm not getting my hopes up. I'm sure they'll draft an OT at #5.....and once again I'll have to wonder if this front office has their heads up their asses.

This. Or I will need to replace my TV and/or every piece of furniture I own.

milkman · 03-17-2010, 09:49 AM

As a matter of fact, in checking out the Patriot drafts since 2000, Mayo is their only 1st round LB, and they have only two other LBs that have been selected in the first three rounds (Shawn Crable '08 and Tyronne Mckenzie in '09, both third rounders in their respective draft class ).

booger · 03-17-2010, 12:38 PM

@stmillr crennel ran the DB workout.
17 minutes ago via UberTwitter in reply to stmillr

si's jim trotter on berry's workout
http://twitter.com/SI_JimTrotter

booger · 03-17-2010, 12:38 PM

Eric says he stepped in what felt like a hole in the field. Felt a tingle in his toe. KC D-coord told him to shut it down and get it checked
24 minutes ago via UberTwitter

Fish · 03-17-2010, 12:58 PM

Great.... Berry breaks an ankle just working out for the Chiefs....

**** it all................................

booger · 03-17-2010, 01:02 PM

March 17, 2010 From Joe Fortenbaugh and Wes Bunting:

Virginia Tech safety Kam Chancellor had a private workout with coaches from the Kansas City Chiefs on Tuesday, according to a league source.

AP
Kam Chancellor
The 6’3”, 226-pound safety recorded 65 tackles (24 solo) and two interceptions for the 10-3 Hokies in 2009. Chancellor racked up 204 tackles and six interceptions during his four-year career at Virginia Tech.

In addition to yesterday's session with the Chiefs, Chancellor is scheduled to work out for the New England Patriots on March 26.

When ranking priorities, addressing the secondary has to be near the top of the list for a Chiefs team that has lost 12 or more games in each of the past three years.

In addition, Kansas City has ranked 22nd or worse in passing defense and 28th or worse in scoring defense in each of the past two seasons.

Let’s turn to NFP Director of College Scouting Wes Bunting for the lowdown on Chancellor:

Chancellor is a physical, downhill safety who takes good angles toward the ball and consistently closes on the play. He has an intimidating presence in the secondary and displays the power to disengage the ball from his man on contact. He generates good power and speed in pursuit and wraps up well on contact. He isn't fluid in his drop and looks stiff when asked to open up his hips and cover ground downfield. He is more of a straight-line athlete who struggles to quickly redirect out of his breaks and can be targeted when left alone in space downfield. He has a tendency to stop moving his feet on play fakes and lacks the range to make up for a false step. ??

But he's patient in zone coverage and does a good job diagnosing pass plays and using the sideline as an extra defender. Overall, he's good looking athlete with natural pop and good straight-line speed for his size. But he struggles to change directions and allows receivers too often to get behind him. Chancellor doesn't look like a guy who has the fluidity and range to play in an NFL secondary, but he could make it as an in-the-box type of safety. ??

Grade: 5.8
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...he-Chiefs.html

also a reminder as far as Chancellor goes, Crennel coached the east team with Chancellor on it in the East/west shrine game

Ralphy Boy · 03-17-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by booger

March 17, 2010 From Joe Fortenbaugh and Wes Bunting:

Virginia Tech safety Kam Chancellor had a private workout with coaches from the Kansas City Chiefs on Tuesday, according to a league source.

AP
Kam Chancellor
The 6’3”, 226-pound safety recorded 65 tackles (24 solo) and two interceptions for the 10-3 Hokies in 2009. Chancellor racked up 204 tackles and six interceptions during his four-year career at Virginia Tech.

also a reminder as far as Chancellor goes, Crennel coached the east team with Chancellor on it in the East/west shrine game

I like Chancellor a lot. Reminds me some of Adrian Wilson (both 6'3" 230 lbs)and looked really good in the Shrine game.

He's a thumper and even though he isn't as fast as Wilson, I think he plays faster than he's timed. I'd love it if we got him in the 3rd and Berry in the first.

booger · 03-17-2010, 01:05 PM

Was interesting how quickly Tampa and Washington scouts followed Berry to the training room, where they waited outside.
about 1 hours ago via UberTwitter

Eric's agent says he has a slight sprain of his left big toe: "Very, very minor"
about 1 hours ago via UberTwitter

If Pioli won't take him that high its obvious someone will, whether trade up or whatever

03-17-2010, 09:49 AM	#9
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booger Don't Tug on Superman's Cape Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: clear out in the sticks Casino cash: $-2171450	@stmillr crennel ran the DB workout. 17 minutes ago via UberTwitter in reply to stmillr si's jim trotter on berry's workout http://twitter.com/SI_JimTrotter __________________ 1 Thessalonians 5:3 “For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.” KJV
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booger Don't Tug on Superman's Cape Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: clear out in the sticks Casino cash: $-2171450	Eric says he stepped in what felt like a hole in the field. Felt a tingle in his toe. KC D-coord told him to shut it down and get it checked 24 minutes ago via UberTwitter __________________ 1 Thessalonians 5:3 “For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.” KJV
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03-17-2010, 12:58 PM	#12
Fish Ain't no relax! Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $-1221081	Great.... Berry breaks an ankle just working out for the Chiefs.... **** it all................................ __________________
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03-17-2010, 01:02 PM	#13
booger Don't Tug on Superman's Cape Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: clear out in the sticks Casino cash: $-2171450	national football post March 17, 2010 From Joe Fortenbaugh and Wes Bunting: Virginia Tech safety Kam Chancellor had a private workout with coaches from the Kansas City Chiefs on Tuesday, according to a league source. AP Kam Chancellor The 6’3”, 226-pound safety recorded 65 tackles (24 solo) and two interceptions for the 10-3 Hokies in 2009. Chancellor racked up 204 tackles and six interceptions during his four-year career at Virginia Tech. In addition to yesterday's session with the Chiefs, Chancellor is scheduled to work out for the New England Patriots on March 26. When ranking priorities, addressing the secondary has to be near the top of the list for a Chiefs team that has lost 12 or more games in each of the past three years. In addition, Kansas City has ranked 22nd or worse in passing defense and 28th or worse in scoring defense in each of the past two seasons. Let’s turn to NFP Director of College Scouting Wes Bunting for the lowdown on Chancellor: Chancellor is a physical, downhill safety who takes good angles toward the ball and consistently closes on the play. He has an intimidating presence in the secondary and displays the power to disengage the ball from his man on contact. He generates good power and speed in pursuit and wraps up well on contact. He isn't fluid in his drop and looks stiff when asked to open up his hips and cover ground downfield. He is more of a straight-line athlete who struggles to quickly redirect out of his breaks and can be targeted when left alone in space downfield. He has a tendency to stop moving his feet on play fakes and lacks the range to make up for a false step. ?? But he's patient in zone coverage and does a good job diagnosing pass plays and using the sideline as an extra defender. Overall, he's good looking athlete with natural pop and good straight-line speed for his size. But he struggles to change directions and allows receivers too often to get behind him. Chancellor doesn't look like a guy who has the fluidity and range to play in an NFL secondary, but he could make it as an in-the-box type of safety. ?? Grade: 5.8 http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...he-Chiefs.html also a reminder as far as Chancellor goes, Crennel coached the east team with Chancellor on it in the East/west shrine game __________________ 1 Thessalonians 5:3 “For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.” KJV
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03-17-2010, 01:05 PM	#15
booger Don't Tug on Superman's Cape Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: clear out in the sticks Casino cash: $-2171450	Was interesting how quickly Tampa and Washington scouts followed Berry to the training room, where they waited outside. about 1 hours ago via UberTwitter Eric's agent says he has a slight sprain of his left big toe: "Very, very minor" about 1 hours ago via UberTwitter If Pioli won't take him that high its obvious someone will, whether trade up or whatever __________________ 1 Thessalonians 5:3 “For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.” KJV
Posts: 12,892