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SPchief · 04:22 PM

All Royals All The Time!

After consultation with others who peruse the game threads we decided to create this as a repository for all things Royals. Minor league news, AL (ahem) Central (thanks Vonne) news and anything Royals can be found here.

alnorth, me and atleast 5 others will continue the game threads as usual. But if you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

If a big story breaks, you can still start a thread about it. There is merely an all inclusive thread that will make a easy for us all to keep up with all things Royals.

Welcome! "Grab a Brew... don't cost nuthin"...[spills beer on feet]

KChiefs1 · 12-09-2010, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007

Man, the Royals are going to suck so fucking bad next year. It's not even funny. And if we get rid of Greinke that is another 100 loss season baby.

Look on the bright side:
Which means the Royals will have the top pick in the draft in 2012...more talent on the way!

Sure-Oz · 12-09-2010, 09:38 PM

I only went to 2 games last year, lowest total ever for me in a season.

Hammock Parties · 12-09-2010, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

There's too much interest in Greinke, we've got Atlanta, Toronto, Tampa Bay, Texas, the Yankees to start. We've even apparently got offers from the Dodgers and Brewers.

There is such a barren wasteland of pitching talent available right now that Greinke's value has probably been artificially raised too high to the point where we ought to win this deal if we dont screw it up.

and he's not that old. i feel this would be the best time for any other team to get him. He's still got at least 7 more good years left in him, possibly more because his delivery doesnt throw a lot of torque on his body like tim lincecum(i probably spelled that wrong)

Don't get me wrong, I will probably shed a tear if we trade him away, but if we get super badass talent for him, then do it. out of all the players we've traded away, greinke by far would be the best we've traded

**DeezNutz** · 12-09-2010, 09:44 PM

For me, one of the bright spots is that we're not going to be trading him because we can't afford him.

Sadly, this is progress.

**Kyle DeLexus** · 12-09-2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

I only went to 2 games last year, lowest total ever for me in a season.

Same for me. I'm normally a ~20 games a year guy, but the last few years I just haven't went out when Zack wasn't pitching and even last year I just didn't go watch much. I'll go to check out some of the prospects when they are called up this year though.

**alnorth** · 12-09-2010, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

For me, one of the bright spots is that we're not going to be trading him because we can't afford him.

Sadly, this is progress.

no kidding. If Greinke returned to Cy Young form and wanted to stay, I have no doubt we would have eventually handed him a massive contract.

I know that in a perfect world we'd have 100% revenue sharing and a salary cap, but things HAVE improved dramatically from the 90's and early 2000's. The Royals are now getting something north of 30 million in revenue sharing every year. Sure the new stadium helps, but this enhanced revenue sharing is the primary reason why the Forbes valuation of the team has almost quadrupled since David Glass bought the Royals (this has got to be the best investment he has made in his life. He may not be getting much of a dividend, but he'll be paid if he ever sells)

We used to have a payroll 8 or 9 times less than the top 2 or 3 teams, now they are merely double or triple, and we're pretty close to league average payroll. Heck, even the Rangers spent a lot less money than us last year.

CHENZ A! · 12-09-2010, 10:16 PM

I sincerely appreciate the optimism of some of you guys.

siberian khatru · 12-09-2010, 10:19 PM

First, the four worst hitters hitters (by wOBA) among qualified players from 2008-2010.

127. Pedro Feliz, .284 wOBA
126. Jason Kendall, .288 wOBA
125. Yuniesky Betancourt, .291 wOBA
124. Jeff Francoeur, .298 wOBA

Now, the least valuable three (qualified) position players by FanGraphs WAR, 2008-2010:

127. Jose Guillen, -1.1 WAR
126. Yuniesky Betancourt, -0.8 WAR
125. Jeff Francoeur, 0.0 WAR

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index...-contest-over/

**DeezNutz** · 12-09-2010, 10:39 PM

Mother****. Did we just acquire Pedro Feliz?

Oh, but Frenchy has upside!! Laughable. Same with Melky. The only reason why we're not the laughingstock of baseball is because the contracts are minimal in terms of dollars and years. But make no mistake, our outfield is not improved. Stagnant? Perhaps. Improved? Not even ****ing close.

**alnorth** · 12-09-2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Mother****. Did we just acquire Pedro Feliz?

No. They had to go 4 places instead of 3 since the bottom was not a royal

duncan_idaho · 12-09-2010, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Mother****. Did we just acquire Pedro Feliz?

Oh, but Frenchy has upside!! Laughable. Same with Melky. The only reason why we're not the laughingstock of baseball is because the contracts are minimal in terms of dollars and years. But make no mistake, our outfield is not improved. Stagnant? Perhaps. Improved? Not even ****ing close.

Anything that gets Mitch Meier's worthless ass out of the lineup is an improvement.

Francouer and Cabrera are exactly the type of guys you take fliers on. Rays fans hated obtaining Carlos Pena at the time of that deal. He was of a similar age and pedigree to Francouer and Cabrera.

BWillie · 12-10-2010, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

I only went to 2 games last year, lowest total ever for me in a season.

I went to three, I paid zero money to the Royals organization though this much I assure you. I make sure when I go tickets are either given to me or a friend takes me. I don't even buy a dollar hot dog. Piss on them. Put something on the field. On the bright side, buddy of mine bet me $200 that the Royals go to the playoffs before the Chiefs. This was during the Herm Edwards era. That is the one thing I thank Herm for...making this franchise appear completely hopeless.

BWillie · 12-10-2010, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Anything that gets Mitch Meier's worthless ass out of the lineup is an improvement.

Francouer and Cabrera are exactly the type of guys you take fliers on. Rays fans hated obtaining Carlos Pena at the time of that deal. He was of a similar age and pedigree to Francouer and Cabrera.

All that is fine and dandy but Pena can at least hit home runs and get on base a little bit. Mitch Meier isn't significantly better or worse than Cabrera and Francouer. Our shit better work out for DeJesus or this is fucking stupid. DeJesus would have been cheap. He was a great guy around town...should have tried to keep him IMO.

Pitt Gorilla · 12-10-2010, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007

All that is fine and dandy but Pena can at least hit home runs and get on base a little bit. Mitch Meier isn't significantly better or worse than Cabrera and Francouer. Our shit better work out for DeJesus or this is fucking stupid. DeJesus would have been cheap. He was a great guy around town...should have tried to keep him IMO.

How did Pena's OBP (prior to Tampa) compare to Melky's?

CaliforniaChief · 12-10-2010, 01:08 AM

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